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[boomn]

Here goes mine then…I hate the current qualifying format, q1 and q2 just feel like you are going through the motions and killing time but my biggest gripe is we hardly ever see the pole lap live on tv.
 

That's true about Q1 and Q2 if you're only invested in the battle between the top 2 or 3 teams.  But there are often interesting midfield battles, great last-second laps to just barely make it to Q2 or Q3, and surprising disappointments for midfield drivers knocked out in Q1 due to errors or strategy who otherwise could even have battled for a spot to get into Q3

Edited by boomn, 24 May 2022 - 19:17.

[LolaB0860]

Here goes mine then…I hate the current qualifying format, q1 and q2 just feel like you are going through the motions and killing time but my biggest gripe is we hardly ever see the pole lap live on tv.

Give me the 2003 format any day, at least then we got to see every corner of every qualifying lap that counted including every mistake.

F1 needs more curveballs like that.

 

I don't hate the current qualifying format, but it has always been very meh, whatever.

 

The 60 minute free-for-all Q was good, but I really liked single-lap format... it was great and gave TV time to Minardis and Jordans too. The only weak side to it was the Friday Q1 which felt semi-pointless.

 

Interesting solution might be to have one run for each car, and then after that there could be optional "fast lane" (to borrow Indycar term) opportunity for the 10 fastest cars in the last 30 minutes where you could re-attempt to qualify. But if you do so, you withdraw your earlier time. There would also be non-priority "slow lane" for all 20 cars where you can also try to better your time but don't have to withdraw your earlier grid slot, just to make sure there is at least some track action until the end of the said 30 minutes

Edited by LolaB0860, 24 May 2022 - 19:32.

[Dan333SP]

iRacing has up to 200.000 active players at the moment I believe. He is at the top of the list and can always compete for poles/wins. Just like in F1: sometimes he makes a mistake or crashes, but he never has an 'off day' where he just doesn't have pace.

 

My possibly controversial and unpopular opinion is that he may well be the fastest driver we've ever seen, and will prove that before his career is over. Whether he is the most complete will be up for debate for decades to come I'm sure. And this is coming from someone who actively rooted against him when DR was his teammate. He's outstandingly talented with a wheel and pedals full stop, and I think he could win in any series so long as he has a top car. 

[Dan333SP]

Before 2014 the F1 cars were too loud. Went to Silverstone in 2013. Had to buy ear covering head phones, because otherwise my ears would hurt every time a car would go by.  Whoever enjoyed the loud cars either had previous ear damage or were masochists. Yes, its nice to hear the cars from 5 km away, but its absolute torture when you are 30 meters from the track.

 

I feel like I constantly defend loud engines, especially the V10s, but you are right that it could be painful. I remember only being able to hear the trackside PA in Canada during the first few laps of the race when the field were on the far side of the island and still mostly together. Once things got strung out and you'd always have at least one car in view sitting at the hairpin, you wouldn't be able to hear the PA or have a conversation with anyone nearby until the end of the race. It was an auditory assault and going without earplugs was actually quite uncomfortable, but I still miss it. 

[HighwayStar]

My unpopular qualifying opinion is that a format where cars get knocked out during the session(s), as was used to widespread ridicule in the first two races of the 2016 season, could actually have worked if it had been implemented in a sensible way. If, for example, there had been a 30 minute session where two cars knocked out every 4 or 5 minutes from a certain point after the start of the session (the numbers chosen depending on the number of cars participating) could actually have been quite interesting and led to some surprising results, while leaving a reasonable amount of time for the teams to respond to the imminent threat of being knocked out at the majority of circuits. This could have then been followed by a 10 minute shootout for pole, pretty much the same as Q3 in the current format, which is fine as it is in my opinion. 

 

However, the knockout qualifying format introduced at the beginning of 2016 was terrible - it was clumsily superimposed over the existing three qualifying sessions, the 90 second interval left too little time for teams and drivers to go out on track again and there was the bizarre decision to knock cars out in Q3, which was supposed to be the pole position shootout and therefore the knockout element actually detracted from the session. Put it this way, I don't think my opinion on the return to the previous format from round 3 onwards was unpopular in the slightest!

Edited by HighwayStar, 24 May 2022 - 19:53.

[Alfisti]

Jesus you people. The single lap was AWFUL, it was plain clear the track would evolve and often be faster in the last 5 than first 5 minutes or you'd get different conditions for each drive rif there was wind or rain about, it was so unfair. Nothing wrong with existing system, really isn't. 

[BoDarvelle]

 Whoever enjoyed the loud cars either had previous ear damage or were masochists. 

 

Yep. Right here.

 

Unpop opinion? Mansell looked more like an 80's pornstar than F1 driver.

 

Epic 'stache.

[ArnageWRC]

F1 suffers from serious over-exposure. We only need to see the race. No need for practice & qualifying sessions to be broadcasted. Can also get rid of the hours of build-up and post race analysis. The old days where we jumped to the grid 5 mins before the start until the chequered flag is a far better formula. We certainly don't need to hear from the drivers as they do nothing but bore the audience when they speak. 16 races per season would be better as well.

Max has the aura and physical appearance of Mr Bean.
 

 

Yes, it is over exposed. However, qualifying is needed to be shown, but there doesn't need to be hours of build up, most of which is 'fluff'. The old Sunday Grandstand 30 mins before the race is more than enough. And conversely, a lot of the other series are seriously under exposed....

[Gravelngrass]

Here goes mine then…I hate the current qualifying format, q1 and q2 just feel like you are going through the motions and killing time but my biggest gripe is we hardly ever see the pole lap live on tv.

Give me the 2003 format any day, at least then we got to see every corner of every qualifying lap that counted including every mistake.

F1 needs more curveballs like that.

I’m not going to say I hate the current format but that the 80s one was better: 1 hour (I think it was), as many attempts as you want, whatever tyre you want (aside from special qualy tyres, setups and even cars). Iconic laps of circuits are mostly from this format I think and it allowed 1 lap monsters to shine.

[Gravelngrass]

F1 suffers from serious over-exposure.

I was going to add an unpopular opinion: F1’s popularity increasing is a bad thing.

[BRK]

F1 has a lot to learn from the likes of IndyCar. Freedom to run different liveries for cars on the same team. Freedom to allow ex drivers to enter big ticket grands prix without having to occupy a seat for the entire season. Freedom for teams to do 1 - 3 cars (I can see how this would go down)

And go…go to Ovals.

There. I’ve said it.

[Alfisti]

I don't like the randomness of indycar, too hard to follow for fans not completely devoted to it. Like who is that? Which car is XYZ driving? Who are the team mates? I have nfi. 

[ArchieTech]

I’m not going to say I hate the current format but that the 80s one was better: 1 hour (I think it was), as many attempts as you want, whatever tyre you want (aside from special qualy tyres, setups and even cars). Iconic laps of circuits are mostly from this format I think and it allowed 1 lap monsters to shine.

Unfortunately by the mid-late 90's it somehow evolved into sessions where often nothing happened for most of the session other than the odd lap just to get a time on the board for safety and then a massive panic a few minutes from the end when everyone went out at once. I remember Murray and Martin spending well over 45 minutes having to find anything else to talk about with occasional apologies for nothing happening on track. I can't remember exactly why it ended up that way although there was often the comment that teams didn't want to be the ones to help clean the track only for their competitors to go afterwards on a grippier track. So they all waited to see who blinked first.

[LolaB0860]

Unfortunately by the mid-late 90's it somehow evolved into sessions where often nothing happened for most of the session other than the odd lap just to get a time on the board for safety and then a massive panic a few minutes from the end when everyone went out at once. I remember Murray and Martin spending well over 45 minutes having to find anything else to talk about with occasional apologies for nothing happening on track. I can't remember exactly why it ended up that way although there was often the comment that teams didn't want to be the ones to help clean the track only for their competitors to go afterwards on a grippier track. So they all waited to see who blinked first.

 

As this random qualifying from 2001 shows, for the first 15 or 20 minutes or so not much was happening, apart from some Minardi parade laps and TV cameras showing pits and drivers (wouldn't Liberty love that though??? you could have endless shots of Verstappen and Horner). After that it gets interesting though, I take that over the current format any day. Anyhow, I think the format would work better if condensed to 45 minutes and there was no minimum or maximum lap rules. Also, no tire limitations. Then again, I'd also love pre-qualifying and partial season entries back.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=OqzAghFVOMw

Edited by LolaB0860, 24 May 2022 - 21:31.

[ARTGP]

Thursday practice in Monaco was annoying. 

[Ragamuffin]

My most controversial view is probably that the 'great' drivers of this past era mainly achieved the level of success they did because of a huge car advantage that let them rack up eye watering numbers without ever quite having to break sweat. And in that, I'm talking about Vettel and Hamilton. It's not their fault - it's the fault of the other teams for allowing Red Bull and then Mercedes build up such an insane advantage over the rest of the field. But the exhaust-blown era was absolutely made for both Adrian Newey and Sebastian Vettel, then for all I'm full of admiration for his achievements, Hamilton was able to win title after title, race after race, in an era where Mercedes were almost ridiculously far ahead of everyone else. Sure, it's happened before in F1 - but maybe not for quite as long. Schumacher/Ferrari is next up and you could maybe make similar claims there - but in his case something stops me. I feel Schumacher was maybe more impressive in his 'pre-dominant' era. 

 

That's why I enjoyed 2017-18 so much - actually seeing the two of them have to fight each other rather than cruising round to ten wins a year unopposed by anyone expect B-tier team-mates....

 

I think the one driver who maybe stands up on his own for sustained success without a huge car advantage is Alonso - at least 2003-14 Alonso. But I probably have equally controversial views there - I think he's a great driver but an arrogant, entitled character who you hear very little positive about in terms of what he's like to work with - and I think he's knocking on the door of 'past it' and his performances with McLaren were often not much to write home about despite his protestations that he'd never driven better. I think any driver who (straight-faced) talks about going into 'economy mode' when the car isn't capable of winning, isn't someone I'd want to hire. 

Yup. The last twenty years has trivialised the validity of stats. Dominant cars and longer seasons is only going to make the lucky few look like gods. 

[Nemo1965]

Gran Turismo is not a sim, so that's a difficult comparison. But in iRacing Verstappen can compete with the very best (pro's that put a lot more hours into it than he does). My rating is in the top 0,5% of the world, but Verstappen smokes my butt with 0,7 to 1s per lap in practically every given car/track combination.

 

If you are only 0,7 to 1s per lap slower than Verstappen, you are a serious good sim-racer. I was rather pleased with myself that I was 'only' THREE (3!) seconds of the world-record at Barcelona last week in the AC F1 2021 hybrid mod. Usually my rule of thumb: my best time in any sim MINUS seven seconds, is the world-record.

 

So congrats!

Edited by Nemo1965, 25 May 2022 - 06:47.

[JeePee]

If you are only 0,7 to 1s per lap slower than Verstappen, you are a serious good sim-racer. I was rather pleased with myself that I was 'only' THREE (3!) seconds of the world-record at Barcelona last week in the AC F1 2021 hybrid mod. Usually my rule of thumb: my best time in any sim MINUS seven seconds, is the world-record.

 

So congrats!

Hehe thanks. Like I said, in the top 1% of the world, but aliens like Verstappen keep my both feet on the ground. I've raced against quite a lot of F2/F3/F4 drivers and most are around the same pace to 0,2s quicker than me, but Verstappen (and the pro's like Rogers, Benecke, Job etc.) are a big step above that. They do every corner quicker all the time, and I have no clue how they do that.

[Frood]

I've not raced against the newer drivers, but back when I was a regular on the sim racing circuit, Esteban Gutierrez was one of the fastest drivers I ever raced against. I think he was in Formula BMW in real life at the time. It definitely translated then and it still translates now.

There was one real driver who was faster, but it turns out he was a cheater (and an arse) but I'm not opening that can of worms again.

[ArnageWRC]

Talking of Gran Turismo; I've got the first 6 - and they're good, but I think it's massively overrated. And far too many similar road cars. Why? I'm really only interested in the motorsport cars.

I recall a magazine review from back in 1998, and they reckoned the original Colin McRae Rally was a greater challenge than the first Gran Turismo; I think they were probably right. Car damage, night stages, fog, tyre choice for two completely different stage conditions, etc

[Ben1445]

I was going to add an unpopular opinion: F1’s popularity increasing is a bad thing.

I am interested to hear more on the rationale for this opinion 

[IrvTheSwerve]

I am interested to hear more on the rationale for this opinion 

 

I can kind of understand it...Liberty pandering to the masses, pushing memes for popularity, lots of the cringing stuff to cater to a younger audience...maybe I'm misunderstanding Gravelngrass' post but if it's from that angle, I can understand it.

[messy]

Talking of Gran Turismo; I've got the first 6 - and they're good, but I think it's massively overrated. And far too many similar road cars. Why? I'm really only interested in the motorsport cars.

I recall a magazine review from back in 1998, and they reckoned the original Colin McRae Rally was a greater challenge than the first Gran Turismo; I think they were probably right. Car damage, night stages, fog, tyre choice for two completely different stage conditions, etc

 

I hate games like Gran Turismo and Forza Motorsport these days. I think their time has passed. Big games with hundreds of cars, in-depth career stuff, road/race cars spanning decades and different categories, they're all well and good but Forza/GT don't offer the 'sandbox' experience you need to make those kind of games worthwhile because they're so tied in with their own history and want to offer you their own version of whatever you do, which isn't satisfying unless you're a proper aficionado of the series itself. 

 

And most people aren't. Most people are racing fans, rather than Gran Turismo fans. If you're going to give us a sandbox-type racer, give us one where we can set things up to our liking - choose the grid, choose the liveries, choose the qualifying format, choose the points system - actually set something up that resembles what we want. rFactor, Project CARS 2, Assetto Corsa, etc etc just let you go out and race whatever you want in whatever way you want because they're not bogged down in their own history and they're designed for motorsport fans rather than fans of the series. 

 

GT/Forza might have just as many cars, tracks, etc, but they limit you and never let you forget that you're playing a game. Time has moved on, technology has moved on - these are fake 'sandbox racing sims' that actually, for all their pomp and self-reverence, don't let you do much more that select a car, select a track, and race the way the game wants you to. So they're practically worthless as a 'tool' to create the kind of race experience you want, and in 2022 are pretty boring games to boot. 

[Myrvold]

I've not raced against the newer drivers, but back when I was a regular on the sim racing circuit, Esteban Gutierrez was one of the fastest drivers I ever raced against. I think he was in Formula BMW in real life at the time. It definitely translated then and it still translates now.

There was one real driver who was faster, but it turns out he was a cheater (and an arse) but I'm not opening that can of worms again.

I remember racing... in the same race as Juncadella quite a few times, and a lot of other real life racers. Probably the most random and fun was Matias Ekström in the Mazda MX-5/Miata Rookie Cup in iRacing!

 

Heinemann.dll, however, he isn't a real racer. So, did you race against a former F1 driver, who raced full-time in two championships in 2021, while being a reserve for a team in F1?

[Ben1445]

I can kind of understand it...Liberty pandering to the masses, pushing memes for popularity, lots of the cringing stuff to cater to a younger audience...maybe I'm misunderstanding Gravelngrass' post but if it's from that angle, I can understand it.

As can I really, I'm just interested in Gravelngrass' thoughts and if they align with what you say there. 

 

I hold a similar if slightly more nuanced opinion that F1's popularity relative to other racing is not good for the sport as a whole. Which doesn't in itself make F1's growing popularity a bad thing. 

[man]

LOL- if you feel over-exposed, don't watch. It's that simple. Why would you want to decide for others how exposed they should be?

I'm not asking others to agree with me. My take is that there is too much fluff and it takes some of the mystique away. The drivers of yesteryear seemed like lions that we saw every few weeks on a Sunday afternoon in their cockpits. If we were lucky we would hear from them once or twice per season. Now the drivers seem like a bunch of geeky, skinny teenagers. Of course this looking back with rose tinted specs perhaps, but my point is, they don't do much for the once heroic image the sport had in my eyes.

[Myrvold]

I'm not asking others to agree with me. My take is that there is too much fluff and it takes some of the mystique away. The drivers of yesteryear seemed like lions that we saw every few weeks on a Sunday afternoon in their cockpits. If we were lucky we would hear from them once or twice per season. Now the drivers seem like a bunch of geeky, skinny teenagers. Of course this looking back with rose tinted specs perhaps, but my point is, they don't do much for the once heroic image the sport had in my eyes.

The average age is quite a bit lower, so of course they would seem like "geeky skinny teenagers".

[1player]

I don't hate the current qualifying format, but it has always been very meh, whatever.

 

The 60 minute free-for-all Q was good, but I really liked single-lap format... it was great and gave TV time to Minardis and Jordans too. The only weak side to it was the Friday Q1 which felt semi-pointless.

 

Interesting solution might be to have one run for each car, and then after that there could be optional "fast lane" (to borrow Indycar term) opportunity for the 10 fastest cars in the last 30 minutes where you could re-attempt to qualify. But if you do so, you withdraw your earlier time. There would also be non-priority "slow lane" for all 20 cars where you can also try to better your time but don't have to withdraw your earlier grid slot, just to make sure there is at least some track action until the end of the said 30 minutes

I suggested in the Monaco thread that the one lap qualifying would be perfect for that weekend. It's actually a suggestion from a Chain Bear video, where we could have 2 or 3 different weekend formats for particular races, to keep things interesting. One shot qualifying at Monaco, sprint race at Monza, reverse grid the first race of the season because why not etc. — I haven't spent too much time thinking about this, those are just examples.

Edited by 1player, 25 May 2022 - 09:29.

[Frood]

Heinemann.dll, however, he isn't a real racer. So, did you race against a former F1 driver, who raced full-time in two championships in 2021, while being a reserve for a team in F1?

Yes, I think we've talked about this before and it is exactly who you think it is. I think I only raced the offending driver once though.

Edited by Frood, 25 May 2022 - 10:20.

[Scotracer]

The 2.4 V8s were horrible engines. Only in 2006 when they had no regulated rev limit were they tolerable (because they worked in their natural rev range). After that, they appeared strangled, especially in 2009 and beyond when they reduced to 18,000rpm. They had a torque curve as thin as a human hair. They sounded horrible (just a piercing blare, no music). They cost a fortune. They used tonnes of fuel.

 

What a waste. 

 

The V6s might be too quiet, but they are better than the V8s.

[Sterzo]

I was going to add an unpopular opinion: F1’s popularity increasing is a bad thing.

 

 

I can kind of understand it...Liberty pandering to the masses, pushing memes for popularity, lots of the cringing stuff to cater to a younger audience...maybe I'm misunderstanding Gravelngrass' post but if it's from that angle, I can understand it.

Bigger crowds, higher costs, have to book tickets way in advance. Best spectator areas replaced with grandstands.

 

Also, shameless elitism. There was something about being one of only three boys in school who understood motor racing.

[Beamer]

My unpopular opinion: to much discussion in this thread.

And too much race sim talk.

[Ben1445]

And too much race sim talk.

Another one from my list:

 

I still don't understand sim racing. Feels like playing games to me. 

 

(And I'm a 'young person') 

[Myrvold]

Another one from my list:

I still don't understand sim racing. Feels like playing games to me.

(And I'm a 'young person')

It is. You are playing a game. A game where you can learn stuff you can use IRL. But it is just a game

[man]

The average age is quite a bit lower, so of course they would seem like "geeky skinny teenagers".

That is very true. Perhaps a minimum age requirement is needed. The image of let's say 1979 where you have the likes of Alan Jones, John Watson, Jody Scheckter, James Hunt et al,lions vs Lando, Russell, Max, Ocon, all mice ... Not quite the same is it? I know, I know, before anyone says anything, but this is the "Unpopular Motorsport Opinions" thread.

Edited by man, 25 May 2022 - 10:41.

[Ben1445]

It is. You are playing a game. A game where you can learn stuff you can use IRL. But it is just a game

Fair enough! I guess I just don't understand how it's come to be taken so seriously by some and that people can make a career from it. 

 

...but then I suppose you could say the same about driving actual racing cars, so... 

Edited by Ben1445, 25 May 2022 - 10:56.

[NewMrMe]

As qualifying formats have been discussed, I quite liked the suggestion that came up about 20 or so years ago, that most fans seemed to hate.

 

The idea was to have two short qualifying races, where the grid for the second would be the reverse of the grid for the first and the grid for the GP would be decided by who made up the most positions over the two races.

 

As we have already gone down the qualifying race idea, why not resurrect it?

[Dan333SP]

The 2.4 V8s were horrible engines. Only in 2006 when they had no regulated rev limit were they tolerable (because they worked in their natural rev range). 

 

Kinda agree. I remember the STRs were using air-restricted V10s that season and you almost couldn't tell them apart from the V8s because those engines were revving so high in '06, I think the Cosworth was at 20,000 rpm. When the revs were restricted they all started sounding pretty boring and uniform. 

[1player]

It is. You are playing a game. A game where you can learn stuff you can use IRL. But it is just a game

As a sim racing enthusiast and software engineer, the "it's just a game" shows one's ignorance on the matter.

If by game you mean "it's mean to have fun", real life racing is a game. If by game you mean "it's on a computer", well, obviously.

The point of a simulator is not making it as fun as possible, but recreating the real life physics as accurately as possible, and someone might find the resulting product fun, if they find the physics of real racing fun. There's nothing to it really.

The fact that sims are still noticeably different from the real thing is due to science in general not having a formula for every single thing that happens in the physical world, computers not being able to simulate the world in all its detail, and programmers introducing bugs in the calculation by mistake. Again, the goal of any simulator is trying very hard to simulate reality while knowing it's an impossible task. Fun often results from racing itself being fun.

Ok, I'm done ranting and being a computer nerd.

[Scotracer]

Kinda agree. I remember the STRs were using air-restricted V10s that season and you almost couldn't tell them apart from the V8s because those engines were revving so high in '06, I think the Cosworth was at 20,000 rpm. When the revs were restricted they all started sounding pretty boring and uniform. 

 

At the track you could still hear the difference, clearly. The V8s pitch might have been not too far away at 20,000rpm (they all were by year end - I was at the French GP in '06) but the harmonics and tones in the V10 note was just on another level. It was properly musical and a pleasure to listen to. The V8s were already offensive.

[Myrvold]

As a sim racing enthusiast and software engineer, the "it's just a game" shows one's ignorance on the matter.

If by game you mean "it's mean to have fun", real life racing is a game. If by game you mean "it's on a computer", well, obviously.

The point of a simulator is not making it as fun as possible, but recreating the real life physics as accurately as possible, and someone might find the resulting product fun, if they find the physics of real racing fun. There's nothing to it really.

The fact that sims are still noticeably different from the real thing is due to science in general not having a formula for every single thing that happens in the physical world, computers not being able to simulate the world in all its detail, and programmers introducing bugs in the calculation by mistake. Again, the goal of any simulator is trying very hard to simulate reality while knowing it's an impossible task. Fun often results from racing itself being fun.

Ok, I'm done ranting and being a computer nerd.

I never said anything about fun/not fun.

As a staff at the worlds largest simracinf site. As an co-organizer of an official national car racing federation esport series... It's still games. A game where the focus is simulating physics instead of throwing shells, bananas and using mushrooms to boost. It's still a game.

[Dan333SP]

At the track you could still hear the difference, clearly. The V8s pitch might have been not too far away at 20,000rpm (they all were by year end - I was at the French GP in '06) but the harmonics and tones in the V10 note was just on another level. It was properly musical and a pleasure to listen to. The V8s were already offensive.

 

Yea, heard them in person in Canada, but tbh it wasn't that clear a difference when they were all running together. The thing with the V8s was that they all ended up sounding identical with the restricted regs and convergent designs (when on throttle, various cars had weird sounds off throttle with the blown diffuser cars), while the V10s usually had subtle variety between the different engine manufacturers, such that you could close your eyes and immediately be able to tell if you were hearing a Honda or a Mercedes or Peugeot. Especially that 2000/2001 Mercedes 

[Alfisti]

Peugeot especially was easy to identify, just wait for the bang. 

[Beamer]

Christian hornernis not a terrible person. Toto might be, not sure yet.

[danmills]

Aside that Netflix moment, Steiner isn't actually that funny.

[registered]

I don't care about any new fans brought by Netflix and social media. They mostly aren't here for the racing.

[milestone 11]

I absolutely despise the sound of the Porsche 911 RSR-19

You have no soul Sir.

[ARTGP]

Aside that Netflix moment, Steiner isn't actually that funny.

 

He is all bark, no bite imo. Remember when Grosjean and Kmag spent the who season banging wheels and Steiner "threatened" to do something about it....and then it happened like 5 more times 

Edited by ARTGP, 25 May 2022 - 21:32.

[Silverstone96]

If the 2021 Saudi Arabia hadn’t been the penultimate round of a closely fought championship then Max Verstappen would have been black flagged before the end of the race.

[messy]

I find the BTCC really uninteresting. I used to love it in the Super Touring days, but there’s something about it now that just makes me think it’s not important. I know objectively it has lots going for it - good racing, good drivers, good circuits, lots of action, I really try to care about it, but I can’t bring myself to. I don’t even know why. I find the DTM, Aussie V8s, NASCAR more interesting. I just feel like it’s a bit of a tacky, made for TV thing rather than an actual test for great drivers, the cars are weedy and a bit s**t, the driving standards are dubious and it’s just it’s own, contained ‘thing’ rather than having any bearing in anything else anywhere in the Motorsport world. And I struggle to care about it. Sorrysorrysorrysorry.