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#1 ikarus280

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 18:22

Nobody watching?

 

English homepage: https://www.24h-rennen.de/en/home/

 

Live streaming and timing: https://www.24h-rennen.de/en/live-en/

 

Directly on Youtube (video description contains lots of links to on board cams):

 

 

 

And live on German TV channel "NITRO" (formerly "RTL NITRO").



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#2 Pieter

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 19:24

Wow, a burning KTM without handbrake, and without driver, downhill Fuchsröhre.  :eek:



#3 thegamer23

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 19:34

Ghost driver!

 

Amazing scenes!


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#4 Roadhouse

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 19:34

Watching right now, favourite race of the year. Sad the Grello is out.

#5 FLB

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 19:36

Watching right now, favourite race of the year. Sad the Grello is out.

 

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#6 JHSingo

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 19:37

Ghost driver!

 

Amazing scenes!

 

Since the driver was okay, is it alright to laugh?

 

One of the strangest things I've ever seen.

 

For context: a KTM was significantly on fire, pulled up a marshals post, but despite the driver's best efforts, it ended up rolling away down the hill whilst still on fire with no driver aboard. Thankfully managed to come to a stop after hitting a barrier. 

 

A real WTF moment for sure.  :lol:



#7 JHSingo

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 19:41

 

The incident in question: https://twitter.com/...611162143940612



#8 FLB

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 20:17

Since the driver was okay, is it alright to laugh?

 

One of the strangest things I've ever seen.

 

For context: a KTM was significantly on fire, pulled up a marshals post, but despite the driver's best efforts, it ended up rolling away down the hill whilst still on fire with no driver aboard. Thankfully managed to come to a stop after hitting a barrier. 

 

A real WTF moment for sure.  :lol:

I kept thinking I'd seen something similar happen once: Jacky Ickx's fire incident at Jarama in 1970 (forum member Disgrace's avatar). The 312B caught fire after the collision with Jackie Oliver's BRM and rolled down the track once the driver was out...



#9 ikarus280

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 22:38

You don't see that every day: one marshal proposed to another marshal in the pit lane on and now they're engaged.



#10 Jellyfishcake

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 22:55

Each time I see a replay of that kelvin van der linde crash I'm not sure he's too blame as much as the commentary team think so.



#11 ikarus280

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 23:11

The CEO of Stellantis (PSA (Peugeot, Citroen, Opel) + Fiat-Chrysler) Carlos Tavares is currently driving the #89 Opel Astra.



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Posted 28 May 2022 - 23:12

Each time I see a replay of that kelvin van der linde crash I'm not sure he's too blame as much as the commentary team think so.

The Cayman had its blinker on, indicating he was going to hold the right.

 

 

Which is where van der Linde decided to pass him...


Edited by FLB, 28 May 2022 - 23:14.


#13 ikarus280

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 23:12

Each time I see a replay of that kelvin van der linde crash I'm not sure he's too blame as much as the commentary team think so.

 

The German commentators see it more as a racing incident.



#14 FLB

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 23:13

The CEO of Stellantis (PSA (Peugeot, Citroen, Opel) + Fiat-Chrysler) Carlos Tavares is currently driving the #89 Opel Astra.

With Jean-Philippe Imparato (CEO Alfa Romeo) and François Wales (Head of Peugeot Sport) as co-drivers.



#15 ikarus280

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Posted 28 May 2022 - 23:24

The teams have to pay €2.879 per litre of fuel.  :eek:



#16 Roadhouse

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 08:51

Triple screen. Take notes F1 director.

#17 r4mses

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 09:06

The teams have to pay €2.879 per litre of fuel.  :eek:

 

On German TV they talked about this price might even be without 19% VAT :D



#18 Ben1445

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 09:59

Looks like I've picked an interesting time to pick up watching this morning 

 

Bit of a race for the lead with some rain 



#19 Ben1445

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 10:36

Very close battle for the lead of the race now - almost touching 



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#20 LolaB0860

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 10:54

I do not like GT3 cars at all but it is always one of the most amazing sights to watch onboard footage of them circling this racetrack in insane speeds while passing Seat Leons and whatever, particularly in dusk and darkness. And then they'll pass recovery vehicles like it's nothing too! I've watched hours of Porsche onboards for that, the whining sound of the car in the background. It's still a good race for that. One of the only, if not the only sportscar race I follow all year. Rhankfully no fog stoppage for this year... wreckage percentage's been pretty huge though


Edited by LolaB0860, 29 May 2022 - 11:00.


#21 Ben1445

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 11:47

Rain levels are increasing 



#22 Ben1445

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 11:57

Absolutely soaking wet down at the Grand Prix end of the track, bone dry and blazing sunshine up at the Karussel. 

 

Been a real roll of the dice on tyre choice



#23 Pieter

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 13:53

Pitstop under investigation for number 15, the leading Audi?



#24 Ben1445

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 14:00

Mmm interesting 



#25 Dan333SP

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 17:13

I do not like GT3 cars at all but it is always one of the most amazing sights to watch onboard footage of them circling this racetrack in insane speeds while passing Seat Leons and whatever, particularly in dusk and darkness. And then they'll pass recovery vehicles like it's nothing too! I've watched hours of Porsche onboards for that, the whining sound of the car in the background. It's still a good race for that. One of the only, if not the only sportscar race I follow all year. Rhankfully no fog stoppage for this year... wreckage percentage's been pretty huge though

 

It's funny that someone with an avatar of a relatively recent sportscar prototype no longer watches sportscar racing. Did you watch through the end of the LMP1 era or did you give up earlier on? 



#26 AlexPrime

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 17:23

track is the star in this race



#27 LolaB0860

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 17:27

It's funny that someone with an avatar of a relatively recent sportscar prototype no longer watches sportscar racing. Did you watch through the end of the LMP1 era or did you give up earlier on? 

 

The final Le Mans I watched was 2020 but I had effectively given up in 2019 already. 2018 season still seemed somewhat okayish at the beginning with the news of Sebring coming back to WEC and ACO seemingly embracing privateer LMP1s to at least some degree, but it was a false hope.

 

It is a shame but I'm happy enough now watching F1 + Indycar + once-a-year N24 and maybe Super GT race or two. I don't need the dirty politics of ACO to my life any longer. Lola in my picture is there to remind me of the good times though. Le Mans was my favorite race and ALMS my favorite series, but I can move on with life.

 

Back to this race though, the winning car's clear infraction being dismissed seems shady but it is what it is. I don't really pay attention to the results in the end. As AlexPrime says above, the clear star of this race is the circuit, the entries are secondary. That and the insane driving and traffic management and the weird little classes. Onboards through the forest are fun.


Edited by LolaB0860, 29 May 2022 - 17:34.


#28 SenorSjon

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 17:44

The track is marvellous to behold.

What was the infraction? WEC have numerous penalties for everything.

#29 LolaB0860

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 17:48

The track is marvellous to behold.

What was the infraction? WEC have numerous penalties for everything.

 

It is

 

And here

https://sportscar365...ded-e5000-fine/

 

I guess there *technically* was something handed. Either way I'm not really bothered


Edited by LolaB0860, 29 May 2022 - 17:51.


#30 AlexPrime

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 18:23

You know, Lola, WEC is fun this year, at least Spa and Sebring seemed a lot closer than previous seasons. ELMS is also a blast ^_^



#31 SenorSjon

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 18:27

It is

And here
https://sportscar365...ded-e5000-fine/

I guess there *technically* was something handed. Either way I'm not really bothered

Well, they corrected it immediately and still got a 32s penalty and 5k fine. What more did you want for something that minor?

Edited by SenorSjon, 29 May 2022 - 18:27.


#32 ArnageWRC

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 21:49

32 secs seems like a penalty designed not to cost them the race....



#33 Ben1445

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 21:59

Mmn, does sound like an honest mistake which led to no sporting advantage if I've read it right. Would have been better if there was no infraction at all but... 

 

Interesting that there's an air of uncertainty about Audi's endurance racing future, not just in that the LMDh has been axed but also that they are set to discontinue production of the R8 and, without a planned replacement model, potentially the associated customer racing program with it. 



#34 Silberpfeil

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 22:06

32 secs seems like a penalty designed not to cost them the race....


I don‘t know how penalty times are calculated (though I‘m fairly sure I remember there being some kind of formula), but 32s seems to be a standard duration. Rast got exactly that for a yellow flag infringement on Sunday morning.

IIRC, another driver got a 7m32s penalty, was ”DSQed“ from the race according to German commentary (which in this case I think just means not allowed to drive anymore?) and lost his Nordschleife permit as some kind of speeding penalty. I suspect they might‘ve gone full tilt through a Code 60 for that kind of draconian penalty…

Maybe one of the stewards just really likes the number 32.

#35 FLB

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Posted 29 May 2022 - 22:36



#36 LolaB0860

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 19:20

I only now noticed that there's apparently a new 12 Hours of Nurburgring (as part of NLS/VLN) race in September. Well, "12 Hours" as it is actually split into 6 Hour race on Saturday and 6 Hour race on Sunday with standings carrying through each other like in the old Creventics, but still...


Edited by LolaB0860, 01 July 2022 - 19:23.