Please use valid arguments instead of attacking the person voicing his opinion. You are entitled to your opinion, so am I.
I believe, and that is my opinion, that there are very little, if any, counter arguments you can use when confronted with the number of 260 deaths in an event that takes place over just one week every year.
And that number doesn't include spectator or official deaths, serious injuries, deaths of drivers practising for the event during the year. I doesn't even include the deaths of two drivers who died on a 'parade lap' (so it should be 262).
Deaths per decade:
* In 2005 there were 9 drivers who died in a single weak at a single event that year. That's a massacre.
Back in the '70, in particular after the event of 1973, there was public debate about whether the Indy 500 should continue. Two drivers had died (Art Pollard & Swede Savage) and one severely injured (Salt Walther) whilst a mechanic (Armando Terran) also lost his life.
Indy did manage in the long run to improve safety. But the number of casualties at the Isle of Mann TT / Manx GP is nowhere near the stats of the Indy 500. So we should have a civilised debate over it. As I said before: humans sometimes have to be protected for their own safety.
And I don't think relatives who lost their family members or children who last their daddy, are that happy about losing them. Maybe some can accept it but in the end they are left behind with pain and loss.
The reason that some people react very violently to anyone who even dares to mention the death numbers or who even dares to mention it's better to stop the event is because people tend to react very emotionaly when something they like is criticised.
Hence they can't think logically or objectively based on hard cold facts anymore. Because their reaction is pure emotions devoid of any rationality. We can't have a serious debate if people are only going to react from their emotions.
If people want to have a sport that is: having gun duels one the street resulting in many deaths every year or jumping from appartment windows on the street in the hope of surviving it (highest jump who survives wins the competition).
Should we allow it just because 'they love doing it'???
TT takes place on public streets and results in deaths every year: people who die is a social and public problem, it's in fact also a political issue because the goverment is supposed to stop people killing themselves or killing others.
And therefore there should be a public debate about it. I love motor racing but I consider the Isle of Man TT barbaric. And I wouldn't want to be a spectator who happens to witness a driver thrown off his bike and against a house who dies on the spot. I don't enjoy such scenes neither would I want to lose a family member doing that.
Now please react with arguments and facts instead of personal insults. You're not going to win sympathy for your event by attacking people who have honest concernt about the safety of the event.
Reply by using arguments how you believe the safety can be increased and the death toll stopped. Don't use stupid fallacies like 'they did what they loved', that is not a valid argument but a fallacy used to kill debate about it.
Serial killers also are doing what they love.
Should we just let them continue their killing spree then?
If people lose their lives it becomes a public issue and therefore topic of public / polticial debate. It is not up to 'fans' or competitors to decide that it can't be discussed because they are emotionally attached to the subject.
Edited by William Hunt, 30 May 2022 - 22:46.