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#1 mariner

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Posted 25 June 2022 - 08:34

A great description of the amazing Honda V5 racing bike engine - 

 

 

 

https://www.enginela...engine-existed/

 

I wonder if, when the last IC engine has been made that Honda wil be recognised as its greatest performance practitioner - they have made so many wining engines and so many innovative ones?



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#2 BRG

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Posted 25 June 2022 - 09:05

Of course, VW had a production V5 engine in road cars well before Honda tried it in racing bikes.



#3 djr900

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Posted 29 June 2022 - 11:15

Yes the VW engine came before the Honda , but the layout is quite different .
The VW has a narrow 15 degree V angle, with one cylinder head,
probably designed this way more for packaging into transverse front wheel drive cars,rather than for performance reasons

#4 Canuck

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Posted 29 June 2022 - 17:42

260 hp from 990cc. That’s a good effort.

#5 Wuzak

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Posted 30 June 2022 - 04:56

260 hp from 990cc. That’s a good effort.

 

Probably detuned to enhance rideability.

 

F1 engines from the same period were getting around 300hp/L, or more, so I have no doubt Honda could have made even more power. 



#6 Canuck

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Posted 30 June 2022 - 16:27

I would imagine. 260 hp in that package with exactly zero aerodynamic traction aids has got to be a handful.

#7 Bob Riebe

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Posted 30 June 2022 - 18:47

MotoGP in all the brilliance of sacntion god wannbes went from 990 to 800 and now at 1000 cc.

 

Now they cannot have more than 4 cylinders after a as many as you wish with 990 cc 2002.

The power delivery of 4 stroke make the bikes far easirer to ride than 2 stroke explosive power delivery.

 

Some MotoGP have been capable of over 300 hp but are tuned to suit the track and have electronic modes to control delivery; spec. electronic control tractin control now have made the bikes far from what were and is one reason some major manufacturers are not in and others are considering leaving.



#8 GregThomas

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Posted 01 July 2022 - 02:52

It's all about the electronics now. GPS knows where the bike is on the circuit - and how much power can/should be applied at that point. All the rider has to do is believe someone got the sums right and dial it on.  All of the bikes have enough power to simply roll over backward with uncontrolled throttle application. Possibly less than 5% of any given circuit would be 100% "real" throttle.

Of course as has been seen lately it all turns pear shaped when the GPS gets "lost" on the circuit. Ask a couple of Ducati rders.



#9 Fat Boy

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Posted 08 July 2022 - 22:27

It's all about the electronics now. GPS knows where the bike is on the circuit - and how much power can/should be applied at that point. All the rider has to do is believe someone got the sums right and dial it on.  All of the bikes have enough power to simply roll over backward with uncontrolled throttle application. Possibly less than 5% of any given circuit would be 100% "real" throttle.

Of course as has been seen lately it all turns pear shaped when the GPS gets "lost" on the circuit. Ask a couple of Ducati rders.

I've watched a Superbike testing when we were sharing a track. Not a GP bike, but the thing only 'cleans out' above about 120 mph. Below that is just a controlled misfire to make the thing manageable. The damned bikes are trying to kill the rider every time he touches the throttle, lol!


Edited by Fat Boy, 08 July 2022 - 22:28.