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[SilverArrow31]

Im currently at DTM at norisring. Protesters on track here as well before the race is about to start

Nothing happened at the WEC at Monza, at least they didnt show anything.

[AlexPrime]

Autosport site reports JSO are saying they are putting "bodies on the line".

what a bunch of freaks

[registered]

You don't have to agree with their opinions or methods. And be rightly annoyed if they disrupt the race. But I am shocked by the bloodthirstyness displayed in this thread by some

[AlexPrime]

You don't have to agree with their opinions or methods. And be rightly annoyed if they disrupt the race. But I am shocked by the bloodthirstyness displayed in this thread by some

I'm not. These people attack sports, culture and are never punished, which means that they have privilieges over hard working people who want to spend some of their limited free time with something which makes them happy. I hope that they try something like that in China or Abu Dhabi, would properly enjoy what happens after that. I know I sound monstrous, but if there is something which makes my blood boil, it is extremist self-righteous jerks.

[Clatter]

You don't have to agree with their opinions or methods. And be rightly annoyed if they disrupt the race. But I am shocked by the bloodthirstyness displayed in this thread by some

 

I think many are just fed up with their self-righteous antics.

[JimmyClark]

Exactly. They all have iphones and high end fashion, two things that cause just as much environmental issues as their oil. They have nothing else to do in their lives, but that shouldn't be our problem.

[AlexPrime]

I think many are just fed up with their self-righteous antics.

And of the unwillingnes of the authorities to reign them. When far right extremists disrupt the life of others the police correctly stops them. But lefties like the ecofreaks are allowed to terrorize hard working people and sporstmen who do in one week more work than these guys in all their useless lives. One can't help but feels second class compared to those brats. Then, hate comes. It is not beautiful, but only natural. I am afraid that one day people will be so fed up, that a monstrous backlash will happen. Me personally? I just stop acting conscious about living green after an event of that, a small act of counter protest.

[ConsiderAndGo]

It’s gonna happen, isn’t it? Just now depends if anyone gets hurt, and if someone gets hurt, they’re getting killed. Fingers crossed they’re not THAT stupid…

[AlexPrime]

It’s gonna happen, isn’t it? Just now depends if anyone gets hurt, and if someone gets hurt, they’re getting killed. Fingers crossed they’re not THAT stupid…

If it happens again, I think UK should lose the right to host a GP for being unable to guarantee the safety of competitors.

[ConsiderAndGo]

If it happens again, I think UK should lose the right to host a GP for being unable to guarantee the safety of competitors.

It should absolutely be questioned in the event it happens, yes.

[Shambolic]

They said they would call off action if Lewis Hamilton drops Petronas as sponsor and calls for the government to stop new oil projects. 

 

Yeah... nah. 

Sheer genius on display. Threaten to hold an event to ransom if someone drops something that isn't theirs to drop, after that someone publicly supports you...

[Shambolic]

It’s gonna happen, isn’t it? Just now depends if anyone gets hurt, and if someone gets hurt, they’re getting killed. Fingers crossed they’re not THAT stupid…

Oh, they're definitely that stupid.

 

We've just got to hope they and everyone around them, if they make it on track today, were all born very very lucky.

[AlexPrime]

Oh, they're definitely that stupid.

 

We've just got to hope they and everyone around them, if they make it on track today, were all born very very lucky.

I think that they will try to protest during the warm up lap. The way they did in FE Berlin.

[Ben1445]

I think non-dangerous disruption is fine, in all honesty.

The FE/DTM interruptions resulting in a delayed start by a few minutes is nothing to get hugely worked up about, in my opinion. They make their point, we decide if we agree with that point or not, they face any legal consequences they chose to risk facing, no one is hurt and we get on with our lives.

If people react to that with unreasonable and disproportionate anger by, say, inciting for said protestors to be beaten up by fans…. that’s entirely on you. I would judge that as I see fit independently of my judgement of the protest action itself.

Sounds like that might be a controversial opinion given the tone in this thread but that’s how I see it.

[cpbell]

If it happens again, I think UK should lose the right to host a GP for being unable to guarantee the safety of competitors.

Sadly, as a Brit, I agree.

[cpbell]

I think non-dangerous disruption is fine, in all honesty.

The FE/DTM interruptions resulting in a delayed start by a few minutes is nothing to get hugely worked up about, in my opinion. They make their point, we decide if we agree with that point or not, they face any legal consequences they chose to risk facing, no one is hurt and we get on with our lives.

If people react to that with unreasonable and disproportionate anger by, say, inciting for said protestors to be beaten up by fans…. that’s entirely on you. I would judge that as I see fit independently of my judgement of the protest action itself.

Sounds like that might be a controversial opinion given the tone in this thread but that’s how I see it.

I tend to concur with you.

[Muppetmad]

I think non-dangerous disruption is fine, in all honesty.

The FE/DTM interruptions resulting in a delayed start by a few minutes is nothing to get hugely worked up about, in my opinion. They make their point, we decide if we agree with that point or not, they face any legal consequences they chose to risk facing, no one is hurt and we get on with our lives.

If people react to that with unreasonable and disproportionate anger by, say, inciting for said protestors to be beaten up by fans…. that’s entirely on you. I would judge that as I see fit independently of my judgement of the protest action itself.

Sounds like that might be a controversial opinion given the tone in this thread but that’s how I see it.

For what it's worth, Ben, I entirely agree with you.

[Thrasymakus]

I think non-dangerous disruption is fine, in all honesty.

The FE/DTM interruptions resulting in a delayed start by a few minutes is nothing to get hugely worked up about, in my opinion. They make their point, we decide if we agree with that point or not, they face any legal consequences they chose to risk facing, no one is hurt and we get on with our lives.

If people react to that with unreasonable and disproportionate anger by, say, inciting for said protestors to be beaten up by fans…. that’s entirely on you. I would judge that as I see fit independently of my judgement of the protest action itself.

Sounds like that might be a controversial opinion given the tone in this thread but that’s how I see it.

That gets a thumbs up from me too.

[PlatenGlass]

If they come on the track at e.g. the end of the warm-up lap to block the start, I'll probably enjoy the spectacle. I don't think it would be a bad protest choice.

[NewMrMe]

I think non-dangerous disruption is fine, in all honesty.

The FE/DTM interruptions resulting in a delayed start by a few minutes is nothing to get hugely worked up about, in my opinion. They make their point, we decide if we agree with that point or not, they face any legal consequences they chose to risk facing, no one is hurt and we get on with our lives.

If people react to that with unreasonable and disproportionate anger by, say, inciting for said protestors to be beaten up by fans…. that’s entirely on you. I would judge that as I see fit independently of my judgement of the protest action itself.

Sounds like that might be a controversial opinion given the tone in this thread but that’s how I see it.

 

I agree. Right to protest is important. Protesting in a way that puts others at risk isn't acceptable though.

[JHSingo]

I agree. Right to protest is important. Protesting in a way that puts others at risk isn't acceptable though.

 

100% this. 

 

I'm actually quite nervous about watching this race because of these idiots. I'm really not in the mood to see some ******** with nothing better to do put themselves and others at risk too. By doing that, you're automatically losing the argument, in my opinion. 

 

Protesting on a live race track is so mind-bogglingly dumb and dangerous that I have no sympathy for their cause - I just really hope nothing bad happens.  And if they are stupid enough to do that, they need to face serious repercussions for any disruption this time - and not just a slap on the wrist like last year. 

[Whatisvalis]

I'm not. These people attack sports, culture and are never punished, which means that they have privilieges over hard working people who want to spend some of their limited free time with something which makes them happy. I hope that they try something like that in China or Abu Dhabi, would properly enjoy what happens after that. I know I sound monstrous, but if there is something which makes my blood boil, it is extremist self-righteous jerks.

If free time and happiness are such a rarity maybe more folks need to get off their arse and protest.

 

I fully support the act. - as long as they do not put themselves or others in danger.

[sportyskells]

Hopefully that does not happen as that will cue a aborted start and very 😠 fans so police do your job NOW

[ConsiderAndGo]

Hopefully the real fans there will preempt what’s gonna happen and lay the smackith down on them.

[Spillage]

Autosport site reports JSO are saying they are putting "bodies on the line".

They're definitely risking lives. Problem is it's not just their own, it's everyone else's too.

[AlexPrime]

If free time and happiness are such a rarity maybe more folks need to get off their arse and protest.

 

I don't agree with that. Such is life - moments of bliss amongst struggle for survival. We should treasure those moments, not let people who don't know true struggle ruin them. I am totally against such protests, be them during, before or after the start of the event. I am against Just Stop Oil in particular as well. I hope that one day they are disbanded.

[AlexPrime]

Hopefully the real fans there will preempt what’s gonna happen and lay the smackith down on them.

I would enjoy that, but you know the problem - the cops will arest the people who have their hard earned money to watch a race and not the brats who came to disrupt and cause chaos. How I hate these people...

[ConsiderAndGo]

I would enjoy that, but you know the problem - the cops will arest the people who have their hard earned money to watch a race and not the brats who came to disrupt and cause chaos. How I hate these people...

If the old bill were actually there, they would 10000000% stop them from getting on track.

[pacificquay]

Do just stop oil have a legitimate point of view - yes

 

Is peaceful protest and causing disruption a legitimate thing - yes

 

Is going on to a live racing circuit and risking being struck by a car acceptable - no

 

 

It’s pretty sad that so many on here are using their (correct) opposition to the last of those things to take such aggressive positions against the first two.

 

Someone said that they personally would try to live less green as a counter protest, which is just pathetic.

[Shambolic]

Do just stop oil have a legitimate point of view - yes

 

Is peaceful protest and causing disruption a legitimate thing - yes

 

Is going on to a live racing circuit and risking being struck by a car acceptable - no

 

 

It’s pretty sad that so many on here are using their (correct) opposition to the last of those things to take such aggressive positions against the first two.

 

Someone said that they personally would try to live less green as a counter protest, which is just pathetic.

 

While I agree with you, this is a natural result of the tactics JSO use, and the reason I wish they'd JFO.

 

By giving the impression of holding the transport and leisure of the country to ransom if immediate demands aren't met, they're losing the public while playing into the hands of certain mindset politicians.

 

Let them pitch up and protest on Parliament Square. That'd have my full support. just as their demos outside Tufton Street and Total's offices did. And their lobbing soup at art didn't.

 

 

Something few seem to consider is what happens if the government was seen to be influenced/ giving in to them? Just because it's a message most of us agree with, does that make it OK for unelected activists to dictate policy? Doesn't that mean it's OK if the next group with a cause we don't agree with resorts to the same tactics?

[masa90]

Sofar nothing, yay!

[AlexPrime]

Sofar nothing, yay!

don't jinx it 

[AlexPrime]

Great work by the police team, a clear and wonderful event.

[Shambolic]

Sofar nothing, yay!

Which, after their thinly veiled threats and other recent sports events, begs the question why?

 

Is this the, turning the corner and realising they need to be more thoughtful in their choices? Having a moment of clarity not to risk lives? Being stopped at the gates by security?

 

So far, their social media is very quiet on Silverstone.

[Spillage]

Glad to see this was all a damp squib. Good work to those involved.

[Pete_f1]

Phew.

Looking at the track there seemed to be areas when if someone wanted to they could get on. Maybe those who did last year getting more than a warning or whatever made the others think twice

[PayasYouRace]

Glad nobody tried anything stupid today.

[pdac]

So we can put this one to bed for another year.

[garoidb]

They wouldn't have had the element of surprise this year, so any publicity would not have been as impactful. I am sure that increased precautions were in place too. You can never be too vigilant.

[AlexPrime]

Which, after their thinly veiled threats and other recent sports events, begs the question why?

 

Is this the, turning the corner and realising they need to be more thoughtful in their choices? Having a moment of clarity not to risk lives? Being stopped at the gates by security?

 

So far, their social media is very quiet on Silverstone.

Don't care, I am happy they didn't ruin a beautiful day of racing. But I am thankful for the security.

[Colbul1]

We can now Just Stop panicking! What a great race, unspoilt

[cpbell]

Fantastic work.

[Sterzo]

Which, after their thinly veiled threats and other recent sports events, begs the question why?

 

Is this the, turning the corner and realising they need to be more thoughtful in their choices? Having a moment of clarity not to risk lives? Being stopped at the gates by security?

 

So far, their social media is very quiet on Silverstone.

Maybe they couldn't afford the tickets.
 

[potmotr]

Love this story: a man on his stag do to the British Grand Prix stopped by cops after his mates made him wear a Just Stop Oil t-shirt.

 

https://www.thesun.c...ish-grand-prix/

[Clatter]

If the old bill were actually there, they would 10000000% stop them from getting on track.

That 100% depends on how many are there, and where they are stationed. 1 or 2 officers at a gap could easily be overwhelmed. I don't know if things have changed since I last went, but there were plenty of places one could access the track if so minded.

[chdphd]

[mclara]

Are they getting more violent?

 

https://www.motorspo...track/10494681/

 

Both of these groups are well known by most people in Germany

[PayasYouRace]

Love this story: a man on his stag do to the British Grand Prix stopped by cops after his mates made him wear a Just Stop Oil t-shirt.

 

https://www.thesun.c...ish-grand-prix/

 

I take it back. Someone did do something stupid.

[FirstnameLastname]

Trucks stopped from entering paddock in Zandvoort

https://x.com/fastes...jNzYI1wHgQ5OZzw