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[SophieB]

Sprint out of the way, main event time. It was a soaking wet track for the F3 race this morning, a drying one for F2 and is due to be bone dry by this afternoon. This is how the grid lines up after Verstappen’s dominant win yesterday:

 

 

This is the driver standings going in:

 

Lights out in…

 

[SophieB]

Ton of time penalties handed out in the F2 race for abusing track limits, btw.

[William Hunt]

Hopefully it will start raining again so we can have a wet race like in F3

[Centauri]

Unless there’s unexpected drama, I don’t expect the race to be a thriller. At the front, if Max gets away cleanly then the Ferraris aren’t fast enough to pass him on the road.

Perez could be the mover in the top five cars, having to pass Russell and then potentially the Ferraris - the latter most likely in the pit lane as I’m not sure the speed deficit is great enough.

Other than Hamilton grappling with the Haas cars and Ocon, I am not sure if we will see a huge amount of movement besides potentially Alonso. If they make good strategy calls and let him make the best use of that new PU, he might be able to do something if he doesn’t get stuck in any DRS trains?

[JimmyClark]

Hopefully it will start raining again so we can have a wet race like in F3

I've looked at many forecasts and none suggest this will be the case. At most, a 20% chance of rain. So basically zero.

[SophieB]

[Risil]

Green track!

[Michael Ferner]

Not looking forward much to this one. Even the sprint was only meh, three DRS zones on a 65-second track is a joke!   Not to mention the track limits issue...

Edited by Michael Ferner, 10 July 2022 - 09:56.

[Risil]

There's a chance of a battle at the front but equally probably something weird and awkward happening between the two Ferrari drivers (again). The competition for about 5th backwards should be thrilling.

[Ali_G]

Think the Ferraris will surprise people and put it up to Verstappen.

[Gary Davies]

I'm coming to loath the DRS train. Methinks we'll see it today. 

 

Old bugger's suggestion... bring back steel brake discs. 

[Topsu]

I'm just looking forward to the ways Ferrari will find to ruin their own weekend.

[Ali_G]

Track looks bone dry already sadly.

Edited by Ali_G, 10 July 2022 - 09:47.

[Francesc]

Not a big fan of this track. Great scenary and all but the track limits issue and 3 DRS zones kills the fun out of it. Let them drive like they used to for example in 2003 using all the outside tarmac they wanted. It was so much better.

[JimmyClark]

Think the Ferraris will surprise people and put it up to Verstappen.

I get this feeling too.

[Red5ive]

Easy win for Verstappen.

[milestone 11]

There seems little point in watching this Porsche Supercup race. If penalties are applied as per F1, F2, and F3, it will take a minimum of a week for all the penalties to be assessed and it's only lap 2.

[Mosrite]

last race was meant to be an easy win for Max too, but it didn't turn out that way. This race looks the same, expect Max to open up a gap to the ferraris and not much happening in the front, unless Max has issues again. Ferrari's will probably catch up at some point, and probably fight between themselves and minimise the threat on Max. I think he can hold them off.

Ferrari's? I think Sainz could be the unlucky driver this weekend, they've messes up Leclerc quite a bit and now that Sainz took the victory, it would be classic ferrari for that to fizzle out with a bad pit call, long pit stop or whatever else ferrari have up their sleeve.

I expect at least one ferrari to be out of the top 3, and think Russell can take that spot.

[Paa]

How strong is the undercut here?

[smitten]

There seems little point in watching this Porsche Supercup race. If penalties are applied as per F1, F2, and F3, it will take a minimum of a week for all the penalties to be assessed and it's only lap 2.

They are barely on the track, it seems.

[STRFerrari4Ever]

Hoping for better driving standards this weekend than in Silverstone and for another exhilarating Grand Prix, the rain earlier means a green track and could throw a spanner in the works for some teams.

Hoping for a Leclerc win, he deserves one after being robbed in Monaco, Barcelona, potentially Baku and definitely Silverstone.

[milestone 11]

They are barely on the track, it seems.

Even the bloody safety car.

[smitten]

Even the bloody safety car.

They're just taking the piss now.

[milestone 11]

FIA Statement.
PSC results are provisional. We think Pereira has won but he has 1h 3mins 25secs of penalties. We are working as expeditiously as is humanly possible to assess if anyone has less.

Edited by milestone 11, 10 July 2022 - 10:27.

[dissident]

1 stop M-H?

 

Only front runner with a new set of softs is Hamilton, with a green track I could see a S-M-M working.

[FelixAdan]

Hoping for better driving standards this weekend than in Silverstone and for another exhilarating Grand Prix, the rain earlier means a green track and could throw a spanner in the works for some teams.

Hoping for a Leclerc win, he deserves one after being robbed in Monaco, Barcelona, potentially Baku and definitely Silverstone.

 

Very dramatic. Robbed like "hey give me your wallet, keys and wig".

[STRFerrari4Ever]

Very dramatic. Robbed like "hey give me your wallet, keys and wig".

What else do you call going from 1st to 4th in Monaco, due to the team pitting you twice in a handful of laps eroding your hard work in qualifying and the first stint of the race? Not to mention Silverstone, a clear SC window, 9s gap after cars had slowed down to their SC deltas and you aren’t pitted for fresh tyres, instead that opportunity was granted to your teammate and rivals behind you.

[HP]

1 stop M-H?

 

Only front runner with a new set of softs is Hamilton, with a green track I could see a S-M-M working.

Maybe but whe a team's best option is S-M-M to move ahead  then they are strategically limited. Right now I think Hamilton first concern is anyhow to survive the first lap without an incident.

[LolaB0860]

It will be a boring race, with the added nuisance of constant "being investigated" messages and Dutch fans spraying their gasses and results being provisional until tomorrow, but perhaps there will be some interest in midfield since some cars are out of place.

Edited by LolaB0860, 10 July 2022 - 11:14.

[SophieB]

[FLB]

Is anybody else watching Sky's pre-race? If so, what on Earth has forced F1 to make anti-homophobic statements like that? What's going on at the track?

Edited by FLB, 10 July 2022 - 11:44.

[TomNokoe]

Looking forward to Russell trying to resist Perez

[Okyo]

Heard that in the stands there have been quite a few incidents where female spectators were harassed physically and verbally. Might have had something to do with that whole story. 

Edited by Okyo, 10 July 2022 - 11:50.

[Ivanhoe]

Heard that in the stands there have been quite a few incidents where female spectators were harassed physically and verbally. 

You must have missed this thread   Please discuss there.

[Ali_G]

Those early to mid 90s Benetton’s were hideous. The nose was shocking. So bulbous.

[KWSN - DSM]

Any chance the darkish clouds can give a little wetness?

[JimmyClark]

Those early to mid 90s Benetton’s were hideous. The nose was shocking. So bulbous.

It's just amazing to see how exposed the driver is when you're so used to the cars of today. And the sound... Wonderful.

[JimmyClark]

Any chance the darkish clouds can give a little wetness?

No I don't think so. When I've been there it's always had heavy looking clouds in the afternoon but nothing comes from them.

[SophieB]

@andrewbensonf1

Fernando Alonso, who was starting from the back of the grid anyway after his electronics failure at the start of the sprint, has been told he has to start from the back of the grid as a result of Alpine taking a whole new power-unit for him to add to his pool

[KWSN - DSM]

@andrewbensonf1

Fernando Alonso, who was starting from the back of the grid anyway after his electronics failure at the start of the sprint, has been told he has to start from the back of the grid as a result of Alpine taking a whole new power-unit for him to add to his pool

 

Does that place him behind Vettel?

[FLB]

@andrewbensonf1

Fernando Alonso, who was starting from the back of the grid anyway after his electronics failure at the start of the sprint, has been told he has to start from the back of the grid as a result of Alpine taking a whole new power-unit for him to add to his pool

 

Et m****... 

 

[JimmyClark]

Et m****...

Seems sensible enough to me.

[kosmos]

@andrewbensonf1

Fernando Alonso, who was starting from the back of the grid anyway after his electronics failure at the start of the sprint, has been told he has to start from the back of the grid as a result of Alpine taking a whole new power-unit for him to add to his pool

 

The right thing to do.

[FLB]

Seems sensible enough to me.

Adding another new engine to the pool could have consequences later in the season.

[Jovanotti]

I'm just looking forward to the ways Ferrari will find to ruin their own weekend.

Easy, Sainz will want to prove a point, attack Leclerc and as soon as their fight is over, Max will be long gone.
Ferrari should tell the drivers whoever is infront after one lap will stay there until the first stops really.

[ForzaGTR]

I hope we get a good battle between Russell and Perez.

[Bleu]

Finnish TV studio taking ball reaction test like Gasly does. Didn't do well.

[PayasYouRace]

Do the cars go to the grid on the tyres they start the race on? Because Perez just ruined a set of tyres with a 100m long lock up into Remus curve on his way to the grid.

[Hellenic tifosi]

Do the cars go to the grid on the tyres they start the race on? Because Perez just ruined a set of tyres with a 100m long lock up into Remus curve on his way to the grid.

No, they can use any set they like.

Besides, it's a sprint race weekend, and they all have many more new sets than usual.

Edited by Hellenic tifosi, 10 July 2022 - 12:28.

[Ali_G]

It's just amazing to see how exposed the driver is when you're so used to the cars of today. And the sound... Wonderful.

Nothing beats the exposure of the Brabham BT55.