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#1 WonderWoman61

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Posted 24 July 2022 - 18:08

Mostly F1 but other forms of Motor Racing also, if possible, and not just test liveries.

For instance, the light-green Alfa Romeo that Team 48 Motorsport intended to run in the 2008 BTCC.

Edited by WonderWoman61, 24 July 2022 - 18:15.


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#2 Richard Jenkins

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Posted 24 July 2022 - 18:23

The Rothmans Tyrrell is pretty well known. The team decided to keep the colour scheme (to a degree) as it was for 1990.

#3 WonderWoman61

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Posted 24 July 2022 - 18:38

The Jordan 192 in 1992 was originally green like its predecessor until Sasol came on board.

#4 ensign14

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Posted 24 July 2022 - 20:14

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Emanuele Pirro was going to run a Middlebridge Benetton B186 at the jaxie end of 1987.



#5 WonderWoman61

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Posted 24 July 2022 - 20:28

BAR's attempt to run one car in 555 colours and the other in Lucky Strike colours in 1999.

#6 Beri

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Posted 24 July 2022 - 23:11

I could have gone a lifetime without knowing about Rotmans Tyrrell or the green Jordan 192.

#7 Parkesi

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 07:09

November 1990/Jordan/Watson/black

January 1997/McLaren/Jerez/orange

January 2007/Renault/dark blue & yellow

December 2007/Force India/Liuzzi/metal red, white and yellow

February 2015/Red Bull/Jerez/ black-white camouflage

February 2019/Alfa Romeo/Fiorano/heart & shamrock decoration

& Ferrari and Honda (dates?) in black



#8 Beri

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 07:42

Ferrari was black during the winter season of 1996/1997.

#9 AJCee

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 08:25

Wasn’t the Brabham BT52 tested at Brands with some sort of camouflage too? There was a suitably grainy photo in Autosport if I recall correctly?

#10 Beri

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 08:29

Do we remember the awful orange Spyker livery that was intended to be the livery for its debut season?

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#11 WonderWoman61

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 10:35

The black Lola T93/30 in 1993.

#12 WonderWoman61

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 10:45

https://www.v8sleuth...ivery-specials/ - There's a few unraced Holden Racing Team liveries here.

#13 WonderWoman61

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 11:16

https://porschepictu...ums/reply/5291/ - There's also this Porsche 962C from 1987. (My 100th Post!

#14 Frank Verplanken

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 16:00

The first Zakspeed F1 never ran in the silver colours it was presented in I think ?



#15 Beri

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 16:55

Good one. Imagine this being the racing livery with the West stickers applied like at McLaren later on..

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#16 Nigel Beresford

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 17:14

Tyrrell 020 Honda tested in 1990 019 style colours at Kyalami and Silverstone but only raced in the grey Braun livery

#17 WonderWoman61

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 18:32

Eurobrun with their orange and black liveries in 1989 since the team didn't qualify for a single race that year.

#18 funformula

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 20:01

Lamberto Leoni’s First Racing F189 which in 1990 became the Life L190 F1
UnracedF1 - Passion for historical F1 auf Twitter: „Tarquini with the First Racing #F189 during the Bologona Motor Show in 1989 #F1 #Bologna https://t.co/2mVlwrrZIR“ / Twitter

#19 funformula

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 20:08

Tyrrell 020 Honda tested in 1990 019 style colours at Kyalami and Silverstone but only raced in the grey Braun livery

 

Some video footage of that Kyalamy test. A plain white Yamaha sponsored Brabham can also be seen.

 

Kyalami Circuit F1 Testing 1991 - YouTube



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#20 Nigel Beresford

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 21:45

Pirelli paid for that test. It nearly didn’t happen - the first Gulf war started and Honda banned their personnel from flying.

#21 WonderWoman61

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Posted 25 July 2022 - 22:48

The Bridgestone-liveried Ligier and Footwork.

The Pirelli-liveried Toyota and Renault.

The blue AGS in 1991 (never qualified)

Coloni's non-yellow liveries in 1990 and 1991 (See AGS)

The all-white HRT in 2012.

#22 arttidesco

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 06:48

Herbert Mullers arrangements to drive a Villiger liveried Lotus 72 never came to fruition, and in a similar vein IIRC Colin Chapman was going to run Emerson Fittipaldi in a WWR and or Cafe do Brasil liveried Lotus 72 in either the Rothmans 50,000 or 1972 Victory race until JPS coughed up some more cash.



#23 Beri

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 06:50

The Bridgestone-liveried Ligier and Footwork.

The Pirelli-liveried Toyota and Renault.


The blue AGS in 1991 (never qualified)

Coloni's non-yellow liveries in 1990 and 1991 (See AGS)

The all-white HRT in 2012.

 

Albeit they indeed never raced, they were never intended to race to begin with. So should they count in this list?



#24 PayasYouRace

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 08:01

The Rothmans Tyrrell is pretty well known. The team decided to keep the colour scheme (to a degree) as it was for 1990.


Woah. Evidently not that well known. Are there any photos or artwork for it? The 1990 makes a lot of sense as a Rothmans scheme without the red and gold stripes.

#25 PayasYouRace

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 08:14

Some video footage of that Kyalamy test. A plain white Yamaha sponsored Brabham can also be seen.

Kyalami Circuit F1 Testing 1991 - YouTube


Also rare footage of the “intermediate” Kyalami layout, between the classic layout and the new pit straight being built for the GP in 1992. Freeze frame at the end of the video and the old hairpin fans front straight is clearly visible going off into the distance on the left of screen.

#26 WonderWoman61

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 09:04

The Rokit Williams in 2020.

#27 BRG

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 10:09

Do we remember the awful orange Spyker livery that was intended to be the livery for its debut season?

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Imagine if Max was driving that, through the clouds of orange smoke from the flares.  The Orange Army would have a mass orgasm.



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Posted 26 July 2022 - 10:21

https://www.crash.ne...sport-exclusive - The Vauxhall Astra Coupe in Encke Sport colours in the 2007 BTCC.

#29 Beri

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 11:32

Imagine if Max was driving that, through the clouds of orange smoke from the flares.  The Orange Army would have a mass orgasm.

 

As a Dutchy myself, I had to vomit when I saw that livery.



#30 Beri

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 11:37

Woah. Evidently not that well known. Are there any photos or artwork for it? The 1990 makes a lot of sense as a Rothmans scheme without the red and gold stripes.

 
If I am not mistaken, this is the only public released photo of the 019. But there is a press release with a drawing on it as well. Showing how Rothmans also was slapped on the front and rear wing.

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Oh, and there was this truck:

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#31 WonderWoman61

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 11:51

The plain white Zakspeed in 1990 before the team pulled out.

#32 Nigel Beresford

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 17:21

The car in the Rothmans pic is an 018 - no 019 was ever decorated in Rothmans livery although obviously the Japanese mag had a go at imagining what one would look like. The photo of the car was snatched by Andy Bass, one of our composite laminators. Nothing “official” was ever published. It was made pretty clear by Bob Tyrrell that any pics were for personal record only - you could get away with that in the days before cameraphones. The car did look gorgeous in the flesh though. I don’t know how close the Rothmans deal came to being a reality - one got the impression this exercise was more of a sprat to catch a mackerel. I wouldn’t read too much into the truck livery. It kind of just followed on.

Edited by Nigel Beresford, 26 July 2022 - 17:31.


#33 arttidesco

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 17:40

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A year before the Kauhsen WK1 wing car appeared WKRT appeared at Hockenheim with a Kojima KE009B and a livery which never raced, the WK1 also had an unraced white livery for Patrick Neve IIRC.  



#34 D-Type

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 18:18

Did the green Ferrari for Mike Hawthorn in Argentina in 1953 ever happen?



#35 WonderWoman61

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 19:45

Did the green Ferrari for Mike Hawthorn in Argentina in 1953 ever happen?


https://forums.autos...-green-ferrari/

Didn't Leo Kinnunen change the livery of his AAW Racing Team Surtees TS16 at least once in 1974?

#36 Parkesi

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 19:55

Arrows FA17 Bridgestone test car 1996



#37 WonderWoman61

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 20:08

https://racing-retro...-unisex-t-shirt - Mike Wilds' Dempster Racing March in 1974.

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 21:24

https://racing-retro...-unisex-t-shirt - Mike Wilds' Dempster Racing March in 1974.

I WANT EVERY ONE OF THOSE T SHIRTS



#39 WonderWoman61

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Posted 26 July 2022 - 22:05

I WANT EVERY ONE OF THOSE T SHIRTS


That was unintentional on my part.

Loris Kessel in his yellow and white Apollon in 1977

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#40 john aston

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 05:56

Do we remember the awful orange Spyker livery that was intended to be the livery for its debut season?

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Actually I rather like it. If memory serves, this was the era when it was almost compulsory to have an F1 car in combinations of blue and white. On my recent trip  to the British  GP , my first live F1 for over a decade , the current liveries  are much better , but with Red Bull and Ferrari looking head and shoulders sexier than the rest .If you want to see really ghastly liveries , BTCC is the place . 

 

But  few teams , then as now, really grasp how to co-ordinate a livery with a shape .  The enduring example of how to do it was Brabham - the BT 46 and 52 (inter alia ) are near perfect .  


Edited by john aston, 27 July 2022 - 05:57.


#41 Beri

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 07:56

The car in the Rothmans pic is an 018 - no 019 was ever decorated in Rothmans livery although obviously the Japanese mag had a go at imagining what one would look like. The photo of the car was snatched by Andy Bass, one of our composite laminators. Nothing “official” was ever published. It was made pretty clear by Bob Tyrrell that any pics were for personal record only - you could get away with that in the days before cameraphones. The car did look gorgeous in the flesh though. I don’t know how close the Rothmans deal came to being a reality - one got the impression this exercise was more of a sprat to catch a mackerel. I wouldn’t read too much into the truck livery. It kind of just followed on.

 
Thank you for the extra and correct information. My information, ofcourse, was not first hand, but rather information that was watered down via various forums and got to lead its own life. I am sorry if any of it was incorrect.
 
Via this article, there is a passage however that McLaren was involved in finding sponsors for Tyrrell? How much of that is actually true?
 

It seems that Mclaren CEO at the time, Ron Dennis, was involved with securing sponsorship for the team in 1990 and 1991, as both teams where powered by Honda. The marketing department of Mclaren was given to task to find sponsors as well for the Tyrrell Racing team.



#42 Beri

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 08:01


Actually I rather like it. If memory serves, this was the era when it was almost compulsory to have an F1 car in combinations of blue and white. On my recent trip  to the British  GP , my first live F1 for over a decade , the current liveries  are much better , but with Red Bull and Ferrari looking head and shoulders sexier than the rest .If you want to see really ghastly liveries , BTCC is the place . 
 
But  few teams , then as now, really grasp how to co-ordinate a livery with a shape .  The enduring example of how to do it was Brabham - the BT 46 and 52 (inter alia ) are near perfect .
 
I agree upon liveries that stand out. They do appeal to me more than the more bland ones. Like currently Alpha Tauri, Alfa Romeo or Aston Martin are just boring liveries in my opinion.
 
But this color, in real life, did burn away your retina. I have seen the show car once, when it went on a little PR tour to various multinationals in the country to find sponsors. And the showcar had this livery. I like the color orange in general, but this was way too much to my taste.


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Posted 27 July 2022 - 08:05

https://racing-retro...-unisex-t-shirt - Mike Wilds' Dempster Racing March in 1974.

Well there goes my next payslip. Probably on things like Footwork and Leyton House.

 

I wonder what the legalities of selling products with all those trademarks are?



#44 NewMrMe

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 08:06

In 1996 Jordan started testing with a livery similar to 1995 but without the blue and more green in its place. Before the first race they signed Benson and Hedges as a main sponsor and the car turned yellow/gold as a result.



#45 PayasYouRace

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 08:07

The car in the Rothmans pic is an 018 - no 019 was ever decorated in Rothmans livery although obviously the Japanese mag had a go at imagining what one would look like. The photo of the car was snatched by Andy Bass, one of our composite laminators. Nothing “official” was ever published. It was made pretty clear by Bob Tyrrell that any pics were for personal record only - you could get away with that in the days before cameraphones. The car did look gorgeous in the flesh though. I don’t know how close the Rothmans deal came to being a reality - one got the impression this exercise was more of a sprat to catch a mackerel. I wouldn’t read too much into the truck livery. It kind of just followed on.

Makes sense given the 019 wasn’t introduced until Imola.

 

I imagine that teams still produce mock-ups of their cars with potential sponsors’ names on them, but they do it all digitally now.



#46 Michael Ferner

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 08:56

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The prototype Miller '122' in its original green with red livery.


Edited by Michael Ferner, 27 July 2022 - 08:57.


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Posted 27 July 2022 - 09:49

Well there goes my next payslip. Probably on things like Footwork and Leyton House.

 

I wonder what the legalities of selling products with all those trademarks are?

Probably about 2% of them are registered and nobody is claiming the copyright. 



#48 Beri

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 09:52

Another good site where I have got some merch from (the still copyrighted Hesketh bear on a T shirt):

https://www.retrogp.com/

 

Sorry for the off topic.



#49 WonderWoman61

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 11:22

Williams tended to run all-blue liveries in testing before revealing their race liveries in the late 2000s

#50 Beri

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 11:26

Ah how could I have forgotten that..? The prettiest liveries of the last two decades..
 
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