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Back Home Again (Again) in Indiana: the 2022 Gallagher Grand Prix @ the IMS road course


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Marcus Ericsson, 2022 Indycar champion?

  1. Yea (9 votes [21.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.43%

  2. Nay (33 votes [78.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.57%

If not Ericsson, who?

  1. Will Power (19 votes [45.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.24%

  2. Josef Newgarden (9 votes [21.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.43%

  3. Scott Dixon (4 votes [9.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

  4. Pato O'Ward (5 votes [11.90%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.90%

  5. Alex Palou (3 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

  6. Someone else (2 votes [4.76%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

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#1 Risil

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 21:46

It's an immutable law of the modern Indycar Series calendar that whatever size it is, there is always a gap in the schedule into which you can squeeze a race at the Indianapolis road course like so much wood filler. Well, fill away! The most exciting thing about this weekend, aside from the ongoing and highly amusing saga of Alex Palou and the elastic McLaren roster, is the highly congested championship table:

 

1. Marcus Ericsson 403

2. Will Power 395 (-8)

3. Josef Newgarden 369 (-34)

4. Scott Dixon 369 (-34)

5. Pato O'Ward 367 (-36)

6. Alex Palou 359 (-44)

 

2015 Juan Pablo Montoya analogue Marcus Ericsson is holding off the competition with a gradually shrinking championship lead, with Will Power (he's only finished outside the top 4 three times this year) the most plausible, or at any rate most consistent challenger. Scott Dixon followed up a breakthrough(?) win in Toronto with a pair of top fives in Iowa, and now he is less than a win away from his Ganassi teammate too. A first and a second at Iowa for O'Ward has put him within striking distance too. There are somehow only five Indycar races remaining this year ( :cry: ) so they'd better make them count. Someone who may not do so is Josef Newgarden, whose very promising Iowa weekend turned to disappointing mush and a possible concussion following a damper failure and crash in race 2. Will he be racing on Saturday? Depends what the doctor says. Popular Sicilian urchin Santino Ferrucci stands ready to jump in Josef's Penske, just in case he's needed. Prepare yourselves.

 

Schedule? It's very brief. Friday sees a practice session at 9.30am and then straight into qualfiying at 1pm. Saturday contains a morning warm-up at 8.15 and the race some time around noon. That's US Eastern time so add on 5 hours for the UK. Sound good? It does.



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#2 ANF

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 22:37

So it's a Saturday race then. The IMS website says the race will start at 12:30. (That's 30 minutes into the F2 sprint race at the Hungaroring.)



#3 jonpollak

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 22:41

That’s what VCR’s are for. …
You’ve got one of those ..right?
Jp

#4 paulb

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 23:20

Someone voted for both Ericcson and Power as champion.  :drunk:



#5 FLB

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 23:26

Well, DJ Willy P is one who has a very high opinion of Ericsson:

 

https://www.motorspo...eries-by-power/



#6 red stick

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 23:28

Josef's back. Mostly.
https://racer.com/20...ad-course-race/

#7 ANF

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 23:38

That’s what VCR’s are for. …
You’ve got one of those ..right?
Jp

Well, I can watch either race on catch-up if I want but I will probably use a second screen. The F2 race will probably be dull unless it's wet.

(I've got three old VCRs but I haven't used them for recording in years and I think they are all in need of head cleaning.)

#8 red stick

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 23:39

That’s what VCR’s are for. …
You’ve got one of those ..right?
Jp

When my house was burglarized about a dozen years ago they took the television, DVD player, and stereo, but left the VCR.

That's when I knew.

Edited by red stick, 28 July 2022 - 23:39.


#9 prommer

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 00:08

I'm the person so far who's voted for Ericsson, but not Power, as I deduced that in the Venn diagram of this poll, "Someone Else" is inclusive of Ericsson.



#10 eab

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 00:16

I'm the person so far who's voted for Ericsson, but not Power, as I deduced that in the Venn diagram of this poll, "Someone Else" is inclusive of Ericsson.

:rotfl: You shouldn't have gotten that 2nd question in the 1st place, as that question is: 

"If not Ericsson, who?"

So 's/o else' is s/b outside the top-6.

Meanwhile, there's been a 2nd 'Eri-voter' who actually has voted for another driver inside the top-6 (POW, NEW or PAL). :rotfl:


Edited by eab, 29 July 2022 - 00:17.


#11 jonpollak

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 02:03

Nice to see JoNew cleared for practice with the following provision.

“Newgarden will be re-evaluated after the practice session to determine if he’s cleared to resume all racing activities for the remainder of the Gallagher Grand Prix event.”

Jp

#12 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 02:30

From a MP tweet--what he found at Indy this week.

 

https://twitter.com/...Qpvaa3Pr5nxlJmw



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 03:16

Marcus Ericsson torturing people with some ABBA? Sure, why not:

 

https://twitter.com/...838898077863936



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 03:54

Nice to see many thinking Powers gonna take it, but having seen him go to 5 title showdowns and coming out best at 1 I remain sceptical.

In any case I'm renting a car tomorrow and riding up to Indianapolis to see if I can meet my main man Power in person. Having met David Coperfield a few days ago and the man in charge of the Corvette assembly plant today I am cautiously optimistic.

Edited by Dolph, 29 July 2022 - 03:54.


#15 PayasYouRace

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 06:11

Marcus Ericsson torturing people with some ABBA? Sure, why not:

 

https://twitter.com/...838898077863936

That is the only thing ABBA is good for, to be fair.



#16 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 06:30

Marcus Ericsson torturing people with some ABBA? Sure, why not:
 
https://twitter.com/...838898077863936

It's well established that the Winner takes it all.

#17 Jellyfishcake

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 08:16

This tweet by Josef made me chuckle 

https://twitter.com/...802538604347394

 

Anyway glad he's doing well and will race, would have been a tough way to fall somewhat out of title contention 



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 08:34

This tweet by Josef made me chuckle 

https://twitter.com/...802538604347394

 

Anyway glad he's doing well and will race, would have been a tough way to fall somewhat out of title contention 

 

I do hope he's still fit after practice. 



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 09:15

Well, I can watch either race on catch-up if I want but I will probably use a second screen. The F2 race will probably be dull unless it's wet.


Indycar on Indy Road Course is typically fairly boring too so I don't know, F2 might beat it

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#20 Risil

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 09:47

Road course is OK if there's weather (I don't think there will be) or mixed strategies. There's plenty of room to overtake if you have the speed.



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 10:19

This might be a silly question (apologies if so) but does anyone know how Josef sustained a concussion, did his head hit the aeroscreen when he crashed? The aeroscreen has been around a few years now and it's the first time since it has been on the cars that I remember any driver getting a concussion after a crash. From viewing the crash it didn't come across as particularly bad compared to other crashes that have occurred in the past.



#22 PayasYouRace

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 10:19

It’s not all that bad in terms of Indycar racing. It’s just such an uninspiring choice for two races. As a warmup to the 500? Fine. As a single visit in the summer with NASCAR? Also fine. Both? That’s a bit much.

If they must have both, would it be too much to ask that they use the F1 layout for one of them? As in, use the twisty but after RC turn 4 and then the banked final turn?

#23 PayasYouRace

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 10:20

This might be a silly question (apologies if so) but does anyone know how Josef sustained a concussion, did his head hit the aeroscreen when he crashed? The aeroscreen has been around a few years now and it's the first time since it has been on the cars that I remember any driver getting a concussion after a crash. From viewing the crash it didn't come across as particularly bad compared to other crashes that have occurred in the past.


He didn’t hit his head in the crash. He hit his head when he collapsed in the paddock afterwards.

#24 Risil

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 10:25

This might be a silly question (apologies if so) but does anyone know how Josef sustained a concussion, did his head hit the aeroscreen when he crashed? The aeroscreen has been around a few years now and it's the first time since it has been on the cars that I remember any driver getting a concussion after a crash. From viewing the crash it didn't come across as particularly bad compared to other crashes that have occurred in the past.

The crash didn't look particularly spectacular but Indycars are doing 160mph+ through the corners at Iowa. It was a heavy hit.



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 10:42

He didn’t hit his head in the crash. He hit his head when he collapsed in the paddock afterwards.

 

I assumed (obviously wrongly) that the reason he collapsed was due to the concussion he received in the crash.



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 10:47

He didn’t hit his head in the crash. He hit his head when he collapsed in the paddock afterwards.

 

But the Iowa crash caused a heavy enough deceleration that Indycar wanted to examine Josef on Thursday to do further tests. I find it hard to believe that the crash and Newgarden passing out in the paddock soon afterwards weren't related, even if he passed all the concussion evaluations after he got out of the car.

 

https://motorsports....-iowa-speedway/



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 11:34

I assumed (obviously wrongly) that the reason he collapsed was due to the concussion he received in the crash.


I might be misremembering this, but I thought I’d seen a report that the collapse was due to dehydration.

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 11:39

Yeah, I know, the medical evaluation still hasn't shown any signs of concussion from either the crash or the fall. But I still think the head movement looked pretty vicious. Back, and to the left, and forward, and back, at 25% and 12.5% speed:

newiowa.gif

 

But maybe that's normal head movement, I don't know. I don't keep a record of these things.


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#29 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 14:05

Fantasy note:  Kirkwood now at the bottom, salary-wise.  When the Next Big ThingTM can be had, on a road course, for Johnson or Kellett money . . .

 

The move to Andretti probably can't come soon enough for him.



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 14:14

I might be misremembering this, but I thought I’d seen a report that the collapse was due to dehydration.

I believe so.

 

He can’t have had a concussion or he wouldn’t be cleared to drive within a week



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 14:33

JR Hildebrand had a great discussion about this on The Race's Indycar podcast.  The procedures are very strict, and I am pretty sure that Josef is definitely OK if they say he is.  Also, I can see him using this whole mess as fuel to curb stomp the field.



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 16:39

UK folks, the race is on the Sky F1 Red Button, not a channel. 

Thus SkyGo freeloaders like me won't be able to watch this one. :(



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 16:43

 

The move to Andretti probably can't come soon enough for him.

And for his current team, if a recent Marshall Pruett article is to be believed. He's put them in danger of not making the Leaders Circle.



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 16:51

You have JoNew to kick around all weekend.    ;)

 

https://racer.com/20...o-race-at-indy/



#35 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 16:57

Qualifying begins in 3 minutes.



#36 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:05

Group 1 not very stout.



#37 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:06

Diffey's back!



#38 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:08

Rossi having clutch issues.  Already.



#39 Disgrace

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:12

Scotty and Ilott out. Tough group.



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:17

The championship leader has broken down, he's starting at the back!



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:17

Ericsson is done!



#42 Anja

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:18

Don't worry, tomorrow he'll end up around 8th anyway. 



#43 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:18

The championship leader has broken down, he's starting at the back!

It was me.  I put him on my initial fantasy team.   :well:



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:18

UK folks, the race is on the Sky F1 Red Button, not a channel. 

Thus SkyGo freeloaders like me won't be able to watch this one. :(

 

Thanks for the heads up, got the disappointment out of the way now rather than when it's about to start. 

 

It makes so little sense to me that red button options aren't available online.



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:18

Don't worry, tomorrow he'll end up around 8th anyway. 

True dat!



#46 ANF

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:21

Ganassi must have sabotaged the wrong car!



#47 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:21

Hinch finds the silver lining--Ericsson will have three sets of reds tomorrow!



#48 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:21

Ganassi must have sabotaged the wrong car!

 

:rotfl:



#49 red stick

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:25

Rosenqvist seems on fire lately.

 

Not VEACH-like, but you know what I mean . . .



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Posted 29 July 2022 - 17:26

Dixon and Grosjean struggling badly too.