Best driver:
Worst driver:
Best team:
Worst team:
Best overtake:
Worst overtake:
Best moment:
Worst moment:
Best thing about the race:
Worst thing about the race:
And the race in a sentence:
Rate the 2022 Hungarian Grand Prix
#1
Posted 31 July 2022 - 14:50
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#2
Posted 31 July 2022 - 14:57
Best driver: Hamilton & Russell
Worst driver: Tsunoda
Best team: Mercedes
Worst team: Ferrari
Best overtake: ----
Worst overtake: Ricciardo coliding with Stroll
Best moment: pole position of Russell
Worst moment: Verstappen winning
Best thing about the race: classic race track that always gives suspense. F3 rain race on Saturday was better.
Worst thing about the race: no rain race
And the race in a sentence: Heads must role at Ferrari
Edited by William Hunt, 31 July 2022 - 14:58.
#3
Posted 31 July 2022 - 15:00
The ability of Ferrari to shoot themselves in the foot is without parallel...
#4
Posted 31 July 2022 - 15:16
Entertaining race.
#5
Posted 31 July 2022 - 15:24
Best driver: Hamilton & Russell
Worst driver: Tsunoda
Best team: Mercedes
Worst team: Ferrari
Best overtake: ----
Worst overtake: Ricciardo coliding with Stroll
Best moment: pole position of Russell
Worst moment: Verstappen winning
Best thing about the race: classic race track that always gives suspense. F3 rain race on Saturday was better.
Worst thing about the race: no rain race
And the race in a sentence: Heads must role at Ferrari
not very keen on Max dominating?
#6
Posted 31 July 2022 - 15:36
not very keen on Max dominating?
That however wasn't a given.
I hoped for a move for the lead into T1. Leclerc delivered. Had Ferrari's stratgey been better, Leclerc very likely would have won the race. Verstappen, Hamilton and Russell laughing about Ferrari switching to hard tyres said it all.
#7
Posted 31 July 2022 - 16:26
Worst driver - Tsunoda was really weak this weekend.
Best team - Red Bull, they just came through the middle of everyone.
Worst team - AlphaTauri, they’ve had too many weekends like this in 2022
Best overtake - Leclerc on Russell for the lead
Worst overtake - Ricciardo on Stroll, shame as I considered him for best too.
Best moment - The early uncertainty over who was going to win
Worst moment - the inevitability of Verstappen coming through to dominate again.
Best thing about the race - I know what I should say and that’s Mercedes and Russell’s Saturday success. But I’m still in the “haha Mercedes aren’t winning anymore thank God” zone, although it’s being tested at the moment by Red Bull just doing the same.
Worst thing about the race - Verstappen could start tenth, have a technical problem, spin off and STILL finish first comfortably. Ferrari are bungling their way out of second place in the WCC, which would be utterly pathetic should they pull that feat off.
I think objectively it was probably quite a good race. But again, hard to rate that way because [unless you’re a Max/Red Bull fan] where’s the feelgood factor?
Edited by messy, 31 July 2022 - 16:29.
#8
Posted 31 July 2022 - 16:35
Worst driver: Perez maybe? Nowhere again
Best team: Red Bull
Worst team: Ferrari. Clowns.
Best overtake: Most of them seemed to have a big pace deficit, Ricciardo on both Alpines was fun.
Worst overtake: Ricciardo again…
Best moment: Nothing stands out, lots of fun moments
Worst moment: Seeing hard tyres on Leclerc’s car.
Best thing about the race: Uncertainty
Worst thing about the race: Ferrari
And the race in a sentence: Decent fun
#9
Posted 31 July 2022 - 16:38
Best driver: Hamilton & Russell
Worst driver: Tsunoda
Best team: Mercedes
Worst team: Ferrari
Best overtake: ----
Worst overtake: Ricciardo coliding with Stroll
Best moment: pole position of Russell
Worst moment: Verstappen winning
Best thing about the race: classic race track that always gives suspense. F3 rain race on Saturday was better.
Worst thing about the race: no rain race
And the race in a sentence: Heads must role at Ferrari
Lol.
#10
Posted 31 July 2022 - 16:38
Best driver - Max, no question about it, the sour grape in here is quite funny : )
Worst driver - Tsunoda
Best team - Mercedes
Worst team - Ferrari , feels a bit sorry
Best overtake - Leclerc on Russell
Best moment - Max spin and held down and did a 360, and then take the lead again
Worst moment - Leclerc on hard tires
#11
Posted 31 July 2022 - 16:49
Worst driver - Ferrari strategy team
Best team - Mercedes, a double podium two weeks in a row is impressive
Worst team - Ferrari strategy team
Best overtake - Leclerc on Russell
Worst overtake - Ricciardo on Stroll, and the Ferrari strategy team
Best moment - Russell’s maiden pole
Worst moment - Ferrari strategy team
Race in a sentence: absorbing race with interesting battles from start to finish and fascinating strategy, why do Ferrari hate LeClerc so much?
#12
Posted 31 July 2022 - 16:50
Good to see Lewis having a great race at arguably his best track.
Ferrari are somehow managing to get worse every time they find themselves in a race winning position they find a way to lose.
#13
Posted 31 July 2022 - 16:52
Overtake by CL on GR is probably Overtake of the Season ... so far.
#14
Posted 31 July 2022 - 16:58
Best driver: Both Max and Lewis still show that they are in a class of their own .
Best team:Mercedes where on it apart from the small pit mistake .
Worst team:Ferrari clownshow
Best overtake:Max on poor Leclerc double overtake .
Worst overtake: Ricciardo on Stroll
Best thing about the race:Max spinning and then Max winning !
Worst thing about the race:I feel for poor Charles !
And the race in a sentence: Entertaining, surprising and exiting , best of the season for me .
Edited by Casey, 31 July 2022 - 16:59.
#15
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:00
Best driver - Lewis, going from 8th to 2nd in that Merc was phenomenal, Max a close second here but his amazing race was in a RB and he had the spin
Worst driver - Ferrari strategy team
Best team - Mercedes, a double podium two weeks in a row is impressive
Worst team - Ferrari strategy team
Best overtake - Leclerc on Russell
Worst overtake - Ricciardo on Stroll, and the Ferrari strategy team
Best moment - Russell’s maiden pole
Worst moment - Ferrari strategy team
Race in a sentence: absorbing race with interesting battles from start to finish and fascinating strategy, why do Ferrari hate LeClerc so much?
I must have imagined Lewis had quite a significant “moment” off-track as well.
#16
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:00
Best driver: Verstappen
Worst driver:
Best team: Benz
Worst team: Williams
Best overtake: DRS is not overtaking
Worst overtake:
Best moment:
Worst moment:
Best thing about the race: no safety car
Worst thing about the race: DRS and pit stops
And the race in a sentence: Good thing summer break's here!
#17
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:05
Best driver: Lewis & Max, although tbh it was really Ferrari gifted Max the Win
Worst driver: Toss up tbh, never saw much of the usual suspects today.
Best team: Mercedes
Worst team: Ferrari
Best overtake: LeClerc on Russell
Worst overtake: Stroll/Ricciardo – what was he thinking
Best moment: Mercs having a bit of a dice.
Worst moment: Hard tyres for Charles, everybody went – WHHATTT are you doing
Best thing about the race: Mercs having a decent turn of pace for once, circuit specific or a change in fortunes?
Worst thing about the race: Ferrari strategy, if you see two teams struggling with the hards – why not wait to see if you can get to the soft like Sainz did.
And the race in a sentence: Beginning of the end for Ferrari’s championship hope, Lewis & George are going to get in between Max & Charles too often to allow the gap to be closed. Ferrari, need an almighty upgrade or a hitman if they’re going to win the championship!
#18
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:08
9.
As good as a dry race can be. Lots of overtaking, a good number of legitimate podium/win contenders throughout the race, different strategies, intrigue, flops, excellent performances...
Edited by Atreiu, 31 July 2022 - 17:08.
#19
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:13
Talking about Ferrari, doesn’t anyone remember that it was the team around Michael Schumacher that made him win races he shouldn’t have had? Just like the combo of Red Bull-strategy and Max make them win? Why is the antipathy against Red Bull and Max so big people can’t see that?
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#20
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:26
I am truly baffled by some of the comments here. Be honest. If someone had posted here before the race, that for Max a fifth place would be a good recovery, you all would have agreed. Especially at the Hungaroring. Now Perez finishes fifth, Max wins the race and most of you pretend that it is just business as usual? Perez drove a very good race. Only Verstappen and perhaps Hamilton could have made turned this particular strategy into a race win. It was bloody Schumacheresque. If you can’t see how the driver made the difference here (apart from Ferrari’s blunders), you should watch, I don’t know, curling?
Talking about Ferrari, doesn’t anyone remember that it was the team around Michael Schumacher that made him win races he shouldn’t have had? Just like the combo of Red Bull-strategy and Max make them win? Why is the antipathy against Red Bull and Max so big people can’t see that?
Max didn't do anything very special, he made a good start, got passed a few slower cars – in the car which has been best on race day for the majority of this years races, with a fresh engine no less.
Red Bull made a good call, and Ferrari ran their normal clown show - It was hardly Schumacher 98 for Red Bull
Aren’t we allowed to have our own opinions, or must we all fall at Max's feet and pray to him every time he wins? And people claim Hamilton fans have a chip on their shoulder.
Edited by macjim, 31 July 2022 - 17:26.
#21
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:30
Max didn't do anything very special, he made a good start, got passed a few slower cars – in the car which has been best on race day for the majority of this years races, with a fresh engine no less.
Red Bull made a good call, and Ferrari ran their normal clown show - It was hardly Schumacher 98 for Red Bull
Aren’t we allowed to have our own opinions, or must we all fall at Max's feet and pray to him every time he wins? And people claim Hamilton fans have a chip on their shoulder.
#22
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:37
And when Hamilton had a rocket ship, did you heap praise on him?
It was a good race by Max, as I said, but he was hardly stretched - circumstances played into his hand.
#23
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:37
Max didn't do anything very special, he made a good start, got passed a few slower cars – in the car which has been best on race day for the majority of this years races, with a fresh engine no less.
Red Bull made a good call, and Ferrari ran their normal clown show - It was hardly Schumacher 98 for Red Bull
Aren’t we allowed to have our own opinions, or must we all fall at Max's feet and pray to him every time he wins? And people claim Hamilton fans have a chip on their shoulder.
If you think Hamilton was the driver of the day, that can be argued. If you say that Max’s race was nothing special, well in a sense you’re right, it seemed a pretty regular race… for Max Verstappen. Perez doesn’t seem to have many of those Sundays. Your post reminds me a bit of the mother of Jimmy Connors, who said every time that Borg beat her son in a final that Borg ‘just had one of those days’. One reporter got sick with it (I believe John Feinstein) and he wrote: ‘Yeah but Borg seems to have a lot of these Sundays.’
Edited by Nemo1965, 31 July 2022 - 17:39.
#24
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:40
A lot of people are giving Ricciardo worst overtake for is move on Stroll, but I also think he's a contender for best overtake on the two Alpines. It was a brief reminder of what people used to like about him.
#25
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:42
Worst driver: it’s who you think it is.
Best team: RB
Worst team: Ferrari
Best overtake: Everything was heavily DRS assisted so nothing really that special like a T4 outside overtake like Ham on Tsunoda last year.
Worst overtake:
Best moment: The stunned expressions as people realized what RB (and Ferrari) had done…priceless moment.
Worst moment: Bottas engine gone.
Best thing about the race: How anybody can go from P10 to P1 in a place like Hungary without safetycars.
Worst thing about the race: 1 hour late start that has become “common”
And the race in a sentence:
Edited by ARTGP, 31 July 2022 - 17:55.
#26
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:44
He did run wide. Not quite a spin though.I must have imagined Lewis had quite a significant “moment” off-track as well.
If you want to rate Max the best go for it, the guy went from 10th to the win it was a pretty epic drive. Me rating him really close to being the best driver in the race really isn’t some great criticism!
#27
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:45
not very keen on Max dominating?
He does not like Max, been so since he entered F1. Its fine, I’m not the biggest fan of Lewis but I can acknowledge his performance this season even he’s not having the best car.
#28
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:53
Best driver: Max, Lewis
Worst driver: Some poor drives, but no standout 'worst'
Best team: Red Bull
Worst team: Ferrari, turning a shot at victory into 6th place
Best overtake: Danny Ric on the two Alpines
Worst overtake: Danny Ric on Stroll (well maybe more a botched defence)
Best moment: Most of the race
Worst moment: VSC in the closing laps
Best thing about the race: There was a lot happening!
Worst thing about the race: Maybe Ferrari self-harm if you care about championship battles
And the race in a sentence: Another Hungary classic, full of action and tension.
Edited by P123, 31 July 2022 - 17:54.
#29
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:55
Overtake by CL on GR is probably Overtake of the Season ... so far.
Really! What about Leclerc on Hamilton through Copse...?
#30
Posted 31 July 2022 - 17:57
A lot of people are giving Ricciardo worst overtake for is move on Stroll, but I also think he's a contender for best overtake on the two Alpines. It was a brief reminder of what people used to like about him.
I’ll be honest. I typically don’t rate opportunistic overtakes like this one. If two cars have tangled and thrown themselves off the track in front of you, then the least you should be doing is taking the clean line and passing them. I never consider it “special”. It’s opportunistic and should happen if you have a super license and a pulse. It’s the bare minimum.
Edited by ARTGP, 31 July 2022 - 17:58.
#31
Posted 31 July 2022 - 18:09
Worst driver:
Best team: Red Bull.
Worst team: Alpine. Every chance on Saturday, seems to turn in dust on Sunday. Yeah, yeah Ferrari. But that a drum getting beaten on often enough. Besides: the strategy was bad but in this case understandable.
Best overtake: Max second overtake on Charles - on tires he 360’ed on.
Worst overtake: Stroll on Ricciardo. Yeah, the Australian got a penalty. But Stroll just does not seem to understand widening arcs of cars going fast into corners. And he has the peripheral vision of Popeye.
Best moment: When Joylon Palmer was asked before the start what would be a good spot on the grid to start on. He said something like: ‘Pole position. On the Hungaroring, pole position would be good.’
Worst moment: Can’t remember one.
Best thing about the race: fight between Russell and Leclerc.
Worst thing about the race: The use of virtual safety car by the drivers. Imho there are some drivers sneaking a big advantage out of it.
And the race in a sentence: An excellent race on a track that has grown on me.
Edited by Nemo1965, 31 July 2022 - 18:14.
#32
Posted 31 July 2022 - 18:11
Good point, I did really enjoy that move and thought to myself how it was like watching the Ricciardo of old.A lot of people are giving Ricciardo worst overtake for is move on Stroll, but I also think he's a contender for best overtake on the two Alpines. It was a brief reminder of what people used to like about him.
Underrated sub plot of the race (covered up by the Ferrari brain fart) has to be what on earth were Macca doing putting their drivers on H for the final stint?
#33
Posted 31 July 2022 - 18:18
#34
Posted 31 July 2022 - 18:19
Personally, Verstappen’s spin tipped the balance in Hamilton’s favour in terms of ‘best drive’. If you want to argue Max was best, feel free.
And Hamilton running wide does what?
#35
Posted 31 July 2022 - 18:25
Best driver: Both Max and Lewis. Max did an incredible Job today making each outlap count and passing Leclerc twice. And also made light work of the alpines at the start. Hamilton maximized the car and was on fire especially in the last stint!
Worst driver: Leclerc; although the team did him in, he himself should have stand firm. Sainz did it in GReat Brittain and a few times since, and despite not being faster Sainz ends up ahead quite a few times now.
Best team: Mercedes, from where they were on friday till the result it was a great team effort. No wi hope they udnerstand why it improved :-)
Worst team: Well, ferrari obviously. going from 2nd and 3rd on the grid to 4th and 6th when your rivals started 10th and 11th says it all
Best overtake: Ricciardo at the both Alpines was quite cool
Worst overtake: Ricciardo on Stroll (although on the defense)
Best moment: Hard to choose it was a great all throughout
Worst moment: Leclerc being put on hards and the VSC ruining the tension in the end for p4
Best thing about the race: This race was what racing should be like
Worst thing about the race: Ferrari strategist
And the race in a sentence: Thrilling race, ferrari self destructed and Mercedes are in the mix when it's not too hot!
#36
Posted 31 July 2022 - 18:28
And Hamilton running wide does what?
Gave him some dirty tires of course!!..........but that's still different to losing a position to spinning
#37
Posted 31 July 2022 - 18:30
Really! What about Leclerc on Hamilton through Copse...?
The car control today was insane to get the car back under control ....
Notice that CL did both of these gems .... the guy is a god.... best wheel to wheel racer of the modern era ... or is it too early to call it.
Level of talent is insane.
Having LH (even in his old state - but still pretty good) and MV and CL on the grid at the same time is something we should treasure ... three of the most talented ever.
#38
Posted 31 July 2022 - 18:36
#39
Posted 31 July 2022 - 18:42
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#40
Posted 31 July 2022 - 18:43
It’s cool that they finished 1-2, but kinda unfortunate that it wasn’t reversed, which, IMHO, it would have been had it not been for the Virtual Safety Car.
The gap was over 10 seconds before the VSC with 2,5 laps to go.
#41
Posted 31 July 2022 - 19:00
The gap was over 10 seconds before the VSC with 2,5 laps to go.
Correct and HAM was driving 1.22\1.23 at that time. The win was never on, also without the VSC.
#42
Posted 31 July 2022 - 19:01
And Hamilton running wide does what?
Runs wide.
#43
Posted 31 July 2022 - 19:01
Charles was lousy on softs. Nowhere on new tyres.Charles was quicker than Sainz on old tyres and then overtook for the lead. Ferrari ruined his race with awful strategy. It should have ended Charles P1, Max P2 and Lewis P3. Given starting positions and car performance you could really argue any of them for DOTD. Unfortunately for Charles Ferrari are useless and so he’s not really in the conversation after finishing P6 but he really drove a flawless race.
Sainz was saved by the vsc
#44
Posted 31 July 2022 - 19:08
The gap was over 10 seconds before the VSC with 2,5 laps to go.
Ham cut over 2s into that on the last lap. Still don't think Ham would have won though because I presume that was rain assisted and without the VSC it wouldn't have impacted.
#45
Posted 31 July 2022 - 19:13
#46
Posted 31 July 2022 - 19:13
Ham cut over 2s into that on the last lap. Still don't think Ham would have won though because I presume that was rain assisted and without the VSC it wouldn't have impacted.
Verstappen was tip toeing on that last lap to make sure nothing silly happened when he had a massive gap.
#47
Posted 31 July 2022 - 19:14
Ham cut over 2s into that on the last lap. Still don't think Ham would have won though because I presume that was rain assisted and without the VSC it wouldn't have impacted.
I hope you don’t really think Verstappen couldn’t do better than a 1:28 (or Lewis couldn’t do better than a 1:26 for that matter). He was doing low 1:23’s before the VSC. Both were cruising that last lap.
#48
Posted 31 July 2022 - 19:16
Not exactly lousy, but wouldnt expect him to really be demonic considering they pitted him from safe lead to worst tires, which noone from top wanted to touch, and then second time in 10 laps again. Id assume any moral for fight was long gone at that point...Leclerc was machine today, up until Ferrari killed his race for 3rd time this year.Charles was lousy on softs. Nowhere on new tyres.
Sainz was saved by the vsc
#49
Posted 31 July 2022 - 19:17
I imagine with rain starting and a 9s lead Max took it very easy on the last lap.Ham cut over 2s into that on the last lap. Still don't think Ham would have won though because I presume that was rain assisted and without the VSC it wouldn't have impacted.
#50
Posted 31 July 2022 - 19:20
I imagine with rain starting and a 9s lead Max took it very easy on the last lap.
Hence why I said it was rain assisted...