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[Ev0d3vil]

https://www.astonmar...rtin-f1-in-2023

[Marklar]

Honestly had to double check if its fake lol

https://twitter.com/...j3a4hxGJzw&s=19

edit: mods please merge

Edited by Marklar, 01 August 2022 - 08:10.

[Nigol]

The ****

[Myrvold]

Piastri probably happy then!

EDIT: And Sargeant

Edited by Myrvold, 01 August 2022 - 08:12.

[Marklar]

Considering that Vettel just decided last week this seems like a extremely quick deal

[TheAviator]

Whhhhhaaat!?!

[KavB]

Very surprising news! I'm guessing he was pushed out of Alpine for Piastri.

 

Hopefully AM are able to show the form they had in their Force India days, it would be a waste to see Alonso struggling to get out of Q1. I'm glad he is staying for a few more years.

[SenorSjon]

So... unexpected. I think he was the better driver at Alpine and they make a big mistake here.

I wonder about the colorful team radio next year.

[Joseki]

So... unexpected. I think he was the better driver at Alpine and they make a big mistake here

I don't think Aston Martin will race against him next year.

[flingsofdeon]

Wow

[NickeyF1]

Get rid of Ocon as a teammate, el plan continues   

 

Let's see how this turns out, a bit surprising for me though (especially in this short amount of time after Vettels decision to quit)

[K20a]

So I guess this means Alpine will be title contenders next year lol...

[macjim]

Just saw the headline on Autosport's main page, actually went WTAF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

mmmhhhh, Fernando does have a habit of jumping into poor cars, hopefully not this time.

[SwedeForceOne]

Noooooo!

[JeePee]

Didn't see this one coming.

[SenorSjon]

I don't think Aston Martin will race against him next year.

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I believe Alpine shouldn't have let Alonso walk. He is their better driver, not Ocon.

With Piastri as new kid on the block and Ocons red mist when it comes to teammates, things could get very messy there.

[SophieB]

If he eventually has driven for every team on the grid, does he get a free move, loyalty card style?

[flingsofdeon]

The rumour was that he was only offered a 1 year f1 deal at Alpine, with a seat in the WEC in 2024. Mega move by Aston.

[PayasYouRace]

I guess this is phase 2 of El Plan.

Kinda makes sense from Aston Martin’s perspective. Swapping one multiple champion for another. Plus Alonso has probably been driving as well as he’s ever been. Not sure they’re necessarily a step up from Alonso’s perspective, but then he’s at that phase of his career where he isn’t quite as in demand as he used to be. Let’s see how he goes outside the Enstone comfort zone.

[geralt]

Was Vettel not going to be renewed then?

[statman]

"The worst drive I have ever seen, from Lance. Worst ever in my lifetime"

[flingsofdeon]

Was Vettel not going to be renewed then?

I think that’s the logical conclusion. He went out ahead before this news broke I presume

[Borko]

Why Fernando, why?

[Marklar]

Was Vettel not going to be renewed then?

There is no way that you can make a contract this quickly, so yes, I reckon the truth is that AM allowed him to leave gracefully.

Then again its super rare to have deals in F1 that no one saw coming

[balage06]

I don't think Aston Martin will race against him next year.

 

And then their next car will coincidentally look exactly like the RB18...

[TomNokoe]

I feel like Alpine forced his hand. What a surprise.

[Jazza]

Really suggests that Vettel got pushed out. He was talking about his future in F1 only a few weeks ago and now this. No way was a modern F1 contract worked out over a weekend. This must have been decided before Hungary.

[PitViperRacing]

God damnit. Why didn't Alpine make sure they kept him? His loss is more than just pace and on track smarts, it represents a tonne of experience and skills wrt set up, car development feedback etc.

As an Alpine fan I'm not stoked. That said best of luck Alonso, I hope you do well at AM.

[GiorgioF1]

What a signing for Aston   Happy for them, now they need to deliver a good car next year.

[pRy]

Was Vettel not going to be renewed then?

Or the other way around, perhaps Alonso was the one with a bad offer and approached AM immediately after Thursdays news. When you’re Fernando’s age you probably don’t need much in the way of negotiations.

[Pingu Pi]

Exciting movements! Aston are going to have their hands full if they're not competitive next year but it's great to have Alonso on the grid for a couple of more seasons. He is still box office value. 

 

Alpine - I can't help but think they've backed the wrong combo if they have any ambition for fighting for races. Ocon does not have the pedigree to win a championship so reckon they've gambling resources on Piastri coming good straight off the bat and that they can spend the Alonso money elsewhere.

[Beri]

Knowing how long contracts need examining and such, this was a deal already in the making long before Hungary. Well played to keep it so silent.

[Marklar]

Or the other way around, perhaps Alonso was the one with a bad offer and approached AM immediately after Thursdays news. When you’re Fernando’s age you probably don’t need much in the way of negotiations.

Alone the lawyer stuff takes weeks regardless how straight forward it is. Either he was always worked out as a option if Vettel retires or Vettel was pushed out

[jstrains]

How come Mercedes did not block the move?

[PayasYouRace]

There is no way that you can make a contract this quickly, so yes, I reckon the truth is that AM allowed him to leave gracefully.

Then again its super rare to have deals in F1 that no one saw coming

Could just as easily be that Vettel’s known for a while that this would be his last season and wouldn’t renew, giving the team a chance to work on getting Alonso.

[Disgrace]

Rather surprising. Looks like Alpine really wanted him out, in which case they're idiots.

 

Quite a coup for Aston and Stroll, who values a big name. He's got the biggest available.

 

But it doesn't look like a team on the way up. I have my doubts that this will be a happy marriage.

[noikeee]

I suspected this could happen, but didn't suspect it could happen this quickly.

 

Good news I guess, Piastri finds a seat. Possibly not brilliant news for Mick Schumacher but I guess he keeps hoping for Haas to stay competitive and the Ferrari door to eventually open. Also not great news for Ricciardo who loses a possible path to continue his career if he's pushed out of McLaren.

[Anja]

I hope Fernando is happy dealing with the Strolls and their BS. I get that he wasn't happy with the Alpine management but this won't exactly be an improvement 

[anyeis]

Who is better next year? Toss a coin. Distant fourth at best anyway

[engineblock1]

Such a shocker. Did not see this happening so fast. Although discussions of AM and Fernando Alonso arent exactly recent, i recall having heard this suggestion some years ago in a small F1 whatsapp group i was part of.

 

I find it ironic that Fernando was pushed out of Ferrari for Vettel and now it looks like as if Vettel was pushed out for Fernando.

 

For Fernando is a step back - Alpine might not have achieved El Plan's objective but they were anyways in better shape than AM and look to be stronger at least for next 1-2 years. Think Fernando doesnt really care about winning, he just enjoys racing and wants to do it in a calm environment where he also has preference.

[Coral]

Wow, that's a surprise! So many surprises in F1 at the moment...

 

I'm not sure if this is a good move for Alonso, but time will tell...

 

Piastri to Alpine then I suppose!

[Disgrace]

Considering that Vettel just decided last week this seems like a extremely quick deal

 

I suppose if Vettel was indecisive and gave hints by delaying a deal, Alonso discussions probably preceded his retirement announcement.

[engineblock1]

 

I suspected this could happen, but didn't suspect it could happen this quickly.

 

Good news I guess, Piastri finds a seat. Possibly not brilliant news for Mick Schumacher but I guess he keeps hoping for Haas to stay competitive and the Ferrari door to eventually open. Also not great news for Ricciardo who loses a possible path to continue his career if he's pushed out of McLaren.

 

 

I do think Leclerc is out after 2023 and Mick is in. With Ferrari's attitude, do not think it makes sense for Lec to stay put for very long. Question is where can he go? Maybe Merc if HAM decides to retire.

[Sabre1977]

Why Fernando, why?

 

I suspect it was forced, IMHO.

[JRodrigues]

I hope Fernando is happy dealing with the Strolls and their BS. I get that he wasn't happy with the Alpine management but this won't exactly be an improvement 

 

On the other hand, I feel sorry for the Strolls for having to deal with Alonso 

[absinthedude]

Well this gives something to think about to those who felt that Aston would hire a patsy to make Lance look good. Aston continue at least trying to be a serious team with serious ambitions. Alonso may be the oldest driver on the grid but he's still delivering the goods. What Aston need is a better car, and to develop it through the season...which Fred may be able to help with. 

 

As for Seb, he's been on the fence about his future in interviews for a few months. Not the biggest surprise. It's a shame Aston didn't really work out for him, though he's had a few good drives.

[Sonic2k]

Crazy news. What's next, Hamilton to McLaren? 

[P123]

Great signing for Aston Martin, although feels a bit of a gamble (another one!) for Alonso.  I suspect a little bit more money involved, possibly a bit miffed at the continuous issues at Alpine, and perhaps them not offering him an F1 deal as long as he wanted pushed him that way.  He finally gets his Merc engine, but when it's maybe 3rd best on the grid.

[Disgrace]

Really suggests that Vettel got pushed out. He was talking about his future in F1 only a few weeks ago and now this. No way was a modern F1 contract worked out over a weekend. This must have been decided before Hungary.

 

It's possible. It feels a bit like when Schumacher was replaced by Hamilton at Mercedes. He could have continued if he really wanted, but his indecision opened the door for his team to look elsewhere.

[FullOppositeLock]

Can’t see Lance and Alonso work in one team at all. Good news that this will mean we get Piastri in Alpine. Will be interesting to see how he stacks up vs Ocon.