150 replies to this topic

[tom]

i'm gonna be away for the whole week so here's my speed.
1:10.725

1st sector 17.5
2nd sector 53.5

really high downforce .

now , i know that theres a pretty big shortcut here at brazil , down that bank and over the grass , you know the one g-r , so just keep away from there and it'll be a good compitition.

by the way that race today was very boring after lap 18 .
but atleast villeneuve got some pionts.

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[G-R #4]

oh, tom. You're really gonna have to go faster than that!
I'm at least 3-4 sec faster around brazil.
Ah well, never mind, I'm sure you'll get heavily beaten here

[doohanOK]

I think we'll be lapping in the high 1:06's or the 1:07's, my tip being the 1:07's.

Any quicker than about a 1:06.7 or so in my mind is cheating. Just a guess though.

regards,
doohanOK.

[G-R #4]

So far, I've been lapping in the mid 1:07's.
I expect to get into the low 1:07's, but a 1:06 is pretty much out of the question.

[Vin]

For sponsorship reasons I think I'll put in an early time to top the grid (at least temporarily).

1.08.579

I can see a high 1.07 or possibly a mid 1.07 but no way a 1.06 so I probably won't be on the pace again.

[Zawed]

First testing times at Brazil
Ferrari
s1 17.198
s2 52.932
f 1:10.388

The lap after this, I got a first split of 16.6 and so surprised I ran off the track....doh!!

[g man]

ALLLLLrightythen
It looks like I am damn good at Interlagos because I have already got a 1:08.2 !
With a first split of 16 flat

I think I could go a fair bit faster as well

16.076
51.266
1:08.234

[Benz #9]

wow...looks like Swervy-Benz might score their first points..
looks like ive got pro. pole now

1st - 16.447
2nd - 51.353
Final 1:07.902

sweet!

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[OverSteer #18]

My best is

16.785
51.888
1:08.109

I can go a bit quicker through thee first split so i should be able to get a 1:07

[doohanOK]

I'll start things off for DooRad Racing with this lazy time:

1S / 16.491
2S / 50.674
F / 1:07.709

I'll post a few other times later next week.

regards,
doohanOK.

[G-R #4]

*G-R sits on the pitwall, watching everyone else lap.*

Hey, I though we had to say what car we use, or doesn't that apply?

[Zawed]

New practice time

s1 16.731
s2 52.669
f 1:09.167

Plenty of room for improvement

[RAD]

Great run DooHan! Way to go. DooRad looks to have a strong package for Brasil.

No official statement from RAD yet, but I've been lapping in the high 1:08s. I'll make some adjustments then hopefully I'll be in the territory my teamate secured.

Cheers!

[Nasty McBastard #3]

are we all cheating? or does tom suck? *loL*

just ribbin ya mate... dont get ya panties in a bunch.

I assume the "short cut" mentioned is the one round the back between the two hairpins? theres the first right hand hairpin, then in the middle of the next long left you go straight, cut across a heap of grass and get spat out after the last right hairpin and just before the first of the 4 or 5 lefts back around to the pits?

i did a lap yesterday where i ****ed up the 1st chicane and was 3,5 down at S1, cut the short cut just to see what it was worth, and ended up doing a time that was only 1/10th slower than my best....so i reckon we might be able to spot that somehow*l*

anyway...just for your info. did a few sighting laps yesterday just getting used to the place again and figuring out if high or low DF is better and did a mid-high 9.

seems ive still got some work to do, but i didnt really flog it, and i havent worked out what cars best yet...

when i do ill fire ya off a mail G-R and we can sort out what were gonna use.

hope thats the way it works.. if your supposed to nominate a care BEFORE you start lapping then i guess toms right.. ive been cheating all along*lol*

so DQ me ;)

[G-R #4]

Actually, I take back what I said about the 1:06 being impossible.
I'm on a potential 1:06 lap, granted a high 1:06.
I had a good 1st sector, then F'd up the second sector, but still had a reasonably good end time. Still, faster than the times here.
I then worked out from my fastest ever 2nd split time, and found if I had got my act together in the middle sector, I could have had a 1:06.8 or 9!
Anyway, I'll keep trying, like always.

ANZFOR-2000 is also keeping our testing times secret, mine anyway, as to not give anything away.

McNasty, I'll email you now.

[Vin]

Anyone remember what pole was last year?

[G-R #4]

I'm not sure if the competition was around last time brazil was on.

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[doohanOK]

Well, I think a 1.06.9 is possible, but it would have to be close to a perfect lap. I think if you get 1.06.9, you have achieved a near-perfect lap.

But who cares, there are plenty of the races to achieve high points.

regards,
doohanOK.

[Jac Man]

Practice Time:

Stewart

1:09.938 Final


Front Row Honda Official Times must be in Ferrari. A disadvantage as I'm convinced the Williams is quickest here. Time will tell.


FRONT ROW HONDA press release:

OHIO-USA (FU2) ATLAS PSX F1 97 Championship contender "The Jac Man" of Team Front Row Honda suffered a broken left forefinger in an early morning testing shunt at the teams test track "Flatulancia" in Italy this morning. Team manager, Jean Todstool acknowledged the incident but downplayed any possible performance handicap that may result from the incident.


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[Zawed]

New time after much practice

s1 16.343
s2 51.712
f 1.08.860

I can only improve on this by working on the turn in on the last corner, running over the inside kerb so that you can stay in 2nd, but it's damn hard to get all 3 sectors right. Once I do I reckon I'll be looking at a 8.3 or 8.4. So look out!!

[UPRC]

UPRC comes to the rescue!
1st Intermediate- 15.996
2nd Intermediate- 49.563
Finish Line- 1.07.946

If it were arcade...
Well, Sim is better anyday.

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[UPRC]

I improved!
Although I bet faster times will come and they will send me waaaayyyy down the list!
1st- 14.204
2nd- 48.277
Fin- 1:07.066

I command you all to do horrible.

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[UPRC]

I play while I post.



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[tom]

i've gone faster too,
1:08.429 .......thats faster than you isn't it nasty?------so you now suck soryy pal.

1st sector 16.8
2nd 52.3

pretty lowish dforce.

i'm goner go even faster too, might even use the grass if i have to....

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[G-R #4]

1st- 14.204
2nd- 48.277

c'mon, you have to be kidding with these split times.
There's no way they are possible. I find them very hard to believe, as I've tried many set-ups and the fastest I've been at the first split is a 16.0, and at the 2nd split in the 50's.
I just find these splits a bit sus.

[doohanOK]

G-R, these times are crap, absolute CRAP!

It is impossible to get a 14.whatever on the first split. The best time I have achieved on the first sector was a 16.134, and to be honest, that was absolutely blindingly quick through the Senna 'S'. As for the 48.9, totally impossible. No one could ever get lower than a mid-50. The best time I've gotten for a second sector was a 50.6 .

Fellow participants, do not fool yourselves by posting bogus times. G-R, myself and others can and will make sure to hell that SalutGilles looks into these times and insist that you "sit out" a few races.

Interlagos contains many tight hairpins, and thus a low-downforce configurations is not an excuse for these "times".

It's a wonder why I try and be on the edge and have sore fingers/hands/wrists after 30-45 minute sessions of solid quick laps, whilst some of you don't care. This championship is for people that don't cheat, and your times will be suspect for the rest of the season following these times.

"regards"
doohanOK.

[Andrew2001]

Well, i will post a time soon, but I am in 1.12s at the moment, absolutely out of sight from everyone else, Come on Axle, lets see a 1.06!!!!
I just cant see myself getting into a 1.09 let alone a 1.06...

Agreed Tom, the Aussie GP was crap after lap 18, or, mid 20s. because after Frentzen went out, i HATED IT!!

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[G-R #4]

Yeah, you tell them DoohanOK.
I too have a best 2nd split of 50.6, and really find it hard to beleive that these splits ae genuine.
I'm faster in the end anyway ;)

[doohanOK]

But of course.

It'll be interesting to see who comes out on top at Brazil!

The problem is that the 1st sector contains the main straight, the tight Senna 'S', followed by a straight. That alone can conquered using medium-dforce.
The 2nd sector contains a longish straight just after the 1st sector timer, but the problem is that this sector contains hairpins that are tighter than Sir Frank Williams' wallet.
The 3rd is merely the last corner followed by a long straight.

My point is that, it is impossible to find a "perfect" set up, e.g. either low or high downforce, as there has too be enough allowance for speed on the 1st and 3rd sectors, and enough cornering and handling on the 2nd sector.
It is more of a compromise to set up the car for Interlagos.

regards,
doohanOK.

[tom]

yep uprc , is cheating , i knew he was from the start of the season, and even last year.
he just make up his times , he doesn't bother cutting corners he just makes up his times , thats why his sectors are so far out.

well thats what i think anyway.

g-r, i'm about 2 seconds slower than you in the 2nd sector , so whats going on there?
are you taking to the grass?

no , just kidding.
i haven't mastered the 2nd sector , i get so much understeer , cos i've been running with 5 % dforce on the rear , and about 35 on the front ,
but today i'll sought out a good setup for myself .

jacs man , no i'm not useing the ferrari , the williams is clearly the fastest , so i'm using the williams.

well i'm heading off for a quick spin on my little motorbike to get some kfc , then i'll be back too take pole.

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[Zawed]

New practice time of:

s1 16.663
s2 51.839
f 1:08.380

Getting close to my limit with my current setup. I'm going to try out a setup from my new teammate Benz now.

Later

[OverSteer #18]

DoohanOK it is possible to get a quicker time through the second split then 50.6. I got a high 49 but the end time was about .04 off G-Rs. The reason why I know his time is cos im his brother.

[OverSteer #18]

uprc i have to agree that 14 S1 and low 48 S2 are pretty sus

[RAD]

I find uprc's time to be questionable as well. A 48 on the second split and only coming out with a 1:07.100? On that fictional pace, he would've nailed a 1:05.

I've managed a 1:08.195 in a Williams. The course is very tricky to master. I get easily distracted by nailing a great split time. I've got to quit looking at my splits!

[OverSteer #18]

s1 16.835
s2 50.647
f 1:07.803

thought i'd put in this time to go up the table at walk.to/atlas

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[tom]

i've had a pretty tough few hours today with this bloody brazil circuit.
i found that after spending lap after lap with the normal controller , i found i just couldn't go quicker than 1:08.397.

so i switched to the twitchy, crap ass, 'look backwards everytime your on a flying lap', duel schock , and it took me a couple of hours to ajust properly , i ended up with a 1:08.214
1st 16.7
2nd 51.6

and you wouldn't believe the amount of times i've got a 1st sector time of 16.3 or 4 and then stuffed up at the next corner.......this track is very hard.
but i really hope i can win this one, so i'll keep trying.

i went and read the drivers profiles for us , and why don't i have a profile ? i've been here as long as anyone else?
got any good reasons other than can't be arsed making a profile for me?

i'd like to see my profile thanks.

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[tom]

about uprc cheating his arse off.

look at the time in the corners of his posts , hes set those times within 2 minutes of each other so . CHEAT ?

yes of course he is , he's just trying to ruin this compitition so , piss off would you .

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[Andrew2001]

hehe, im laughing. URPC, funny, very funny....
Tom, how can you handle a car with 5 front 35 rear downforce????? at Interlagos? I just cant drive a car with that setting on the track like that, i like oversteer if anything, lots of turn in, quickly on the power again, that requires lots of front downforce especially.

By the way, at Interlagos, if you choose 65% rear and 70% front you are NOT significantly slower on the straights, i can still match my top speeds with less downforce, and then you absolutely nail the rest of teh course which is tight left and open right handers.



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[G-R #4]

My goodness tom, I missed that! He definately should have something done to him, either a race ban or such. This is one cheat accusation I agree with you on.

About the profile, you should see Benz about that. The reason you don't have one is that you haven't given him any info. There was a thread a while ago asking for compeditors for there profile info, but only McNasty replyed to it.
So, get Benz's email and get the info to him.

[doohanOK]

Well after some more lapping around the bumpy Interlagos circuit, I can say I actually better the 16.000 for the 1st split.

1S / 15.979
2S / 51.630
F / 1.07.417

I'll post my other quicker times later in the week.

regards,
doohanOK.

[G-R #4]

Hey doohanOK. Have you ben able to dive into the 1:06's yet?

[doohanOK]

I wouldn't normally answer this type of question, but who cares.

No, I haven't, I've lapped in the very low 1.07's, but I don't believe a 1.06 is possible with the set-up I'm using, definite no.

If it is actually possible, that's tough to say, I'd say maybe, but I believe a 1.06 is going to be a one-off; but ultimately less than a 1.07.100 or 1.07.000 would be very tough.

regards,
doohanOK.

[G-R #4]

A one off, that's for sure. But really, what should we do about UPRC?

[tom]

i went back to the old digital controls.
you can keep your crap ass dual shock g-r.

1:07.711

1st 16.6
2nd 51.2

and i got 2 16.0's in the 1st sector .

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[doohanOK]

Well SalutGilles has done bugger all lately; he's probably busy on uni studies, which is fair enough. But I really have no interest in competing if people here make up times.
It's just not worth it.

We'll just have to wait and see.

regards,
doohanOK.

[G-R #4]

Oh, and how did SG become the runner of this series anyway? Just wondering.

[g man]

*NEWSFLASH*
I HAVE SPEED !

1:07.318

AND I can go about a second faster still !
Admittedly I got a first sector record of 15.928, but the rest of the lap was crap except for the last corner.
51.498 for the second sector which is nothing special - I got a 50 .9 earlier but I stuffed up the last bend. - And that 50.9 came from a first split of 16.4 or somethin !

So if I can wing everythin together mid 1:06s have my name on them.

About the cheating.......now UPRC is my teammate so I obviously dont want him to lose any points, but a 14.2 first sector is about as funny as a fart in an elevator so Salut can do what he wants

[Andrew2001]

Tom, Doohan, G-R, and everybody else who is posting here, please dont take offence to someone like UPRC who is clearly cheating, just drive your own laps, and at least you'll know that you weren't cheating, Benz, take over from SG for the moment and do something about UPRC please, ill contact ya on icq later.

Andrew

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[tom]

i went a little bit quicker .
1:07.653--------with the hard tyres , --does anyone know if it makes a difference , soft or hard compuonds?

1st sector 16.7
2nd 51.1

andrew 2001,
i know what you mean about the understeer , and i hate it to , i've switched to higher dforce now and i'm lapping alot faster especially in the midle sector.
it's so bloody hard to do a perfect lap around this track, i reckon if i could get the lap together i'd be able to do a 1:07.1 or something but it's just ****in impossible to do a perfect lap.

g-r, salut's been calling the shots around here since the start , i think he started it up , so that'll be why he makes the dicisions.

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[Andrew2001]

Here are my pathetic times so far, havent tested for 2 weeks round about, certainly before the Australian GP, when i actually get some time to sit down and try and go fast ill post them back!!

Day 1 Mika Hakkinen MP4/12
Interlagos Circuit

........Split 1...Split 2....F.Lap
Lap 1...18.539....56.171.....1.14.139
Lap 2...17.725....54.285.....1.15.943
Lap 3...18.118....54.574.....1.12.929
Lap 4...17.790....54.398.....1.12.525
Lap 5...18.067....54.984.....1.12.817
Lap 6...18.132....54.964.....1.12.763
Lap 7...18.132....54.507.....1.27.771
(In Lap)
Lap 8...30.330....1.07.930...1.17.338
(Out Lap)
Lap 9...18.187....59.708.....1.17.338
Lap 10..17.990....54.398.....1.12.525

Fastest Lap
S1: 17.790
S2: 54.398
Lap: 1.12.525

Those 10 laps are the only laps i have done at Brazil this entire year. When i finally get enough time to do 20 or so, i will and HOPEFULLY I can get into the 1.10 bracket...

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