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Whose fault was that then

  1. Hamilton (345 votes [87.56%] - View)

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  3. Racing Incident (37 votes [9.39%] - View)

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#1 SophieB

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:08

Because otherwise this is going to be in three or more threads otherwise, please discuss the Hamilton and Alonso collision here (if you want).



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#2 muelte

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:10

Alonso legend

#3 MJB5990

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:10

Big shame for Lewis. Finally he's aggressive on lap one and ironically I don't think he needed to be.

#4 f1rules

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:11

All hamiltons fault, where should alonso go

#5 Borko

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:11

Hamilton wanted too much, Alonso had nowhere to go

#6 Disgrace

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:11

Hamilton took himself out of the race. Pretty much expected Alonso to magically disappear, or hit the brakes so hard that he would lock them and hit Hamilton anyway.



#7 PistolPete

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:12

Hamilton is having a lot of collisions first lap…

#8 ckolcz

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:12

Hamilton's fault IMO. Alonso had nowhere to go.

#9 P123

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:12

From replays looks straight up Lewis's fault.  Pinched in too much.

 

And Bottas has no luck!



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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:12

Hamilton penalty for next race incoming?

 

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Edited by Lesky, 28 August 2022 - 13:13.


#11 crooky369

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:12

Classic radio from Alonso as usual.

#12 yolo

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:13

HAM took a tight line, but at the same time, Alonso didn’t really make much effort to follow a tighter line himself.

#13 Ali_G

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:13

Because otherwise this is going to be in three or more threads otherwise, please discuss the Hamilton and Alonso collision here (if you want).

 


Poll?

#14 Diablobb81

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:14

Based on his radio Alonso deserves everything that happened, happens and will happen.

#15 crespo

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:15

Based Alonso radio.

#16 Silberpfeil

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:16

Hamilton penalty for next race incoming?

 

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Yeah, I usually take Alonso team radios with a grain of salt, but he‘s right on the money here. F3-level stuff from Hamilton.

#17 P123

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:16

Hamilton penalty for next race incoming?

 

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Many years of glorious angst spilling from that radio comms!  Haha!

 

I did actually think it was the usual case of Fernando only being interested when fighting with Lewis, but unlike Miami, this time he was innocent.



#18 f1rules

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:16

Please tell me youre kidding right…?

HAM took a tight line, but at the same time, Alonso didn’t really make much effort to follow a tighter line himself.



#19 Timorous

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:16

For me that is on Hamilton, didn't give enough space on the inside and Alonso was over the kerb so couldn't really give more space.

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#20 ToniF1

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:17

Hamilton penalty for next race incoming?

 

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Let me translate this, i am a bitter old man cos i left stuck at two WDCs and that guy got seven and i hate him.


Edited by ToniF1, 28 August 2022 - 13:17.


#21 Kev00

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:17

Well Alonso was just on the outside against Russell on the restart and decided against trying to outbreak and squeeze him on the inside

#22 P123

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:19

Well Alonso was just on the outside against Russell on the restart and decided against trying to outbreak and squeeze him on the inside

 

George straight up outbraked him.  Much like Lewis did prior.  Two cars can go through there, no squeezing required.



#23 FLB

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:19

Getting a 2014 flashback (scroll down the page)...

 

WATCH: Rosberg vs Hamilton - their most dramatic moments to date (formula1.com)



#24 muelte

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:19

HAM took a tight line, but at the same time, Alonso didn’t really make much effort to follow a tighter line himself.


Tighter line where?

#25 Disgrace

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:20

When DRS is so powerful, you have to wonder why Hamilton decided to take such a silly risk instead of waiting a lap or two.



#26 George Costanza

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:22

I think it was Lewis's fault.

#27 SophieB

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:22

Poll?

Go for it!



#28 muelte

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:22

Alonso could do the same against Russell on the restart but backed off...

#29 Kev00

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:22

George straight up outbraked him. Much like Lewis did prior. Two cars can go through there, no squeezing required.


Lewis didn’t even outbrake he just squeezed Alonso on the inside

#30 yolo

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:23

Alonso could do the same against Russell on the restart but backed off...


Lewis was ahead in the braking zone and around the turn. Alonso was behind Russell

#31 NickeyF1

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:25

I'll put that fact here again, this is the fourth time Hamilton had a racing incident at Le Combes. 2009 wasn't his fault, but 2011, 2014 and 2022 look pretty similiar.


Edited by NickeyF1, 28 August 2022 - 13:25.


#32 MasterOfCoin

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:25

Isn't this how Lewis got penalized for his contact with Albon, but now no further action....



#33 flyboym3

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:25

Alonso lost the place, racing never works if the car being overtaken is not willing to let it go.

You can tell with Alonso's radio response he was always gonna keep his foot it in it despite being behind going into the corner and at the apex.

#34 Lowgrip

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:25

Hamilton penalty for next race incoming?

 

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You would never hear Hamilton say stuff like this. Never.

That's very poor from a WDC.



#35 yolo

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:27

For the record, I do think it’s broadly Lewis’ fault but ultimately a race start racing incident.

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:29

For the record, I do think it’s broadly Lewis’ fault but ultimately a race start racing incident.

I think it was clearly HAM fault.

But Alonso's reaction shows why he is only a 2x WDC. The faster he gets out of F1 the better for everyone



#37 Brian60

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:29

My take is this, Lewis was all over the back of him on the approach to the corner, pulled level and was aiming to be ahead. Nando knew what would happen, Lewis would overtake on corner exit, so like the racemaster he is he pulled a flanker - Keeping his foot in it for just a moment longer he hoped Lewis would have to run wide and be told to hand the place back for cutting the corner. Unfortunatelly, wheel to wheel contact happened, putting one car out and leavin Nando well down the field.



#38 CrashPad

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:29

This was 100% on Hamilton, a complete no-brainer.



#39 garoidb

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:29

Isn't this how Lewis got penalized for his contact with Albon, but now no further action....

 

Was that when he cost Albon his maiden win?



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#40 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:32

Hamilton turned in while Alonso was approaching the apex. Alonso would have needed to cut the corner to get through, which he rightly didn't.

 

Hamilton's fault.



#41 Raest

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:33

Hamilton at fault, didn't though Alonso change line twice to defend? Before the turn

#42 EndlessMotion

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:43

Hamilton's fault, too eager to try and make a move and if you don't back out of it going around the outside there you're always going to get collected by the guy on the inside. Should have known that from when Rosberg tried the same in 2014 and tagged him. My god does Alonso love the sound of his own voice though. Loves to read out an essay to the world at any given opportunity as if he's Mr Perfect. Disrespectful to his fellow driver as per usual but it's Fred so whatever



#43 Centauri

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:43

Moronic from Hamilton. He’s normally better than that.

#44 lewislorenzo

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:45

Lewis should’ve just waited for drs no point making that move.

It is funny how easy Alonso makes life for max though🙄

#45 GoldenColt

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:45

A bit too optimistic there from Lewis. Alonso's meltdown was revealing though. The guy is consumed by frustration. 



#46 MasterOfCoin

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:48

Was that when he cost Albon his maiden win?

Yes the one in Austria...



#47 Counterbalance

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:48

Like a few others, after qualifying I did think that Alonso and Hamilton on the same row could produce fireworks, and it did.

Alonso always seems to defend harder against Hamilton than any other driver on the grid. Hamilton was at fault for todays incident.

It’s quite clear that the 2007 season and I suspect, Hamilton’s further success haunt Alonso, though.

#48 George Costanza

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:48

Lewis was definitely quicker all he had to do was wait. Fernando is always very aggressive on starts, one of the best starters in F1, but his car overall is slower.

Edited by George Costanza, 28 August 2022 - 13:50.


#49 muelte

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:49

Moronic from Hamilton. He’s normally better than that.


Well, he usually isn't. It was one of his typical "you must get out of my way, I'm LH" moves. But he's been so dominant that people tend to forget how he behaves when he's not dominant and has to fight hard other drivers

#50 pRy

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Posted 28 August 2022 - 13:49

Lewis mistake. But I don't believe there was any malice towards Alonso. He was just frustrated about qualifying and eager to make up the difference at the start. I don't read too much into Alonso's comments either. That was just heat of the moment stuff. 


Edited by pRy, 28 August 2022 - 13:50.