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#1 Louism

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Posted 30 August 2022 - 18:16

A friend of mine has 2 spare tickets for the Friday + Saturday and Sunday.
Please send me a PM if interested

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#2 BRG

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Posted 31 August 2022 - 17:37

Just went past the circuit this afternoon.  Much work underway already in the fields opposite with a lot of tentage already erected.  The sheep in the main car park field are already looking concerned. 

 

There was a sign saying 'final tickets available' which suggests you can still get them, but try louism (above) first!



#3 Macca

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Posted 31 August 2022 - 21:12

Revival testing was taking place yesterday and today, as well as construction work - here are some of the cars from yesterday.

 

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#4 john aston

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Posted 01 September 2022 - 06:00

A shame Joe Colasacco wasn't able to bring that exquisite Ferrari 1512 to Silverstone last weekend . It is an utter jewel. 



#5 pete53

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Posted 10 September 2022 - 13:55

I have just been having a look at the entries for the 2022 Revival. One thing that strikes is that there are now ( unless I have overlooked someone) no names from the original Goodwood era competing. Even stalwarts like Jack Oliver and Dickie Attwood are no longer entered.

 

Of course we have lost some of those who were racing in the early days of the Revival - Moss, Brabham, Surtees. Others, such as the aforementioned Attwood and Oliver, may have decided that discretion is the better part of valour, and advancing age and racing cars don't necessarily mix well. Inevitable, but a shame, as it was the presence of those names from the past that gave the Revival a particular sparkle. 



#6 BRG

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Posted 10 September 2022 - 14:58

Well, we are all 24 years older than when the Revival was first.....err, revived.  Time and tide, as they say.  Fortunately, there is a  steady flow of younger and even current modern racers coming through to take up the slack.  



#7 AllanL

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Posted 10 September 2022 - 19:51

I believe that Jackie Oliver gave up his racing licence after a difference of opinion over an incident with the stewards at a previous Goodwood event.

 

Apart from the loss of past drivers, who frequently showed up much younger peddlers, we have also lost quite a number of classic racing cars. Presumably that is due to the skyrocketing values of Ferrari GTOs etc. Ironic that winning at Goodwood can be a factor in the escalating value of a car.



#8 djr900

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Posted 11 September 2022 - 09:46

I attended a hill climb last year where there were several 100 year old cars, but no 100 year old drivers.

It is sad that the old drivers are going to get older, and eventually pass away ( like all of us)

But the machines ( cars & bikes ) can last indefinitely with proper maintenance & storage, so happily all these events can continue, just with a new generation of drivers

#9 Macca

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Posted 15 September 2022 - 16:51

Entry list and timetable:

 

https://www.goodwood...ist-31.8-v5.pdf

 

https://www.goodwood...-day/timetable/

 

Results will appear here:

 

https://www.tsl-timi...om/event/223765

 

 

As far older competitors are concerned, of those who raced in the day and have been there pretty much every year Stuart Graham is 80, David Franklin is 76 (I think) and Jochen Mass is 75 - more power to their elbows!

 

I will be there tomorrow, around the paddocks and then near the chicane or at Madgewick, so might bump into somebody. 

 

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#10 Vitesse2

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Posted 15 September 2022 - 17:50

Live Stream link. Will be available from 09.00 BST (08.00 GMT) on Friday

 



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Posted 16 September 2022 - 12:08

Well, we are all 24 years older than when the Revival was first.....err, revived.  Time and tide, as they say.  Fortunately, there is a  steady flow of younger and even current modern racers coming through to take up the slack.  

 

Boy, that St Mary's grid is pretty impressive. Pretty much all of them are a recognizable name if you've been aware of contemporary motorsport.

 

Is there a reason that race attracts so many pros and doesn't seem to have any amateurs or hobbyists? It's not even the beefiest class, car wise, by the looks of it.



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Posted 16 September 2022 - 12:27

it is surely that the pro drivers are invited by the organisers. They don't own the cars of course.  There are plenty of owner drivers who are very quick who don't get an invite.  

If your face (or name) fits then you get in!



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Posted 16 September 2022 - 12:30

Boy, that St Mary's grid is pretty impressive. Pretty much all of them are a recognizable name if you've been aware of contemporary motorsport.

 

Is there a reason that race attracts so many pros and doesn't seem to have any amateurs or hobbyists? It's not even the beefiest class, car wise, by the looks of it.

It's a two-part event - see Races 5 and 16 on the entry list linked above. The 'gentleman drivers' will be out later. Although I'm not sure the likes of Grant Williams, Justin Law and Duncan Pittaway can be described as amateurs!

 

Somewhat amusing to hear the commentary praise for Jimmie Johnson's save in the Galaxie earlier, saying that he'd have been in the wall if that had been in NASCAR. True enough, but he's had a lot of experience rotating Indycars over the past couple of seasons ...



#14 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 16 September 2022 - 12:39

Calling them 5 and 16(or at least not having them consecutively on the entry list) threw me off.

 

5 is on Saturday, 16 on Sunday. Is it an aggregate race with each 'class' getting a go or a driver change(but twice) or ? ??



#15 Vitesse2

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Posted 16 September 2022 - 12:46

Aggregate result on time I think. So in theory the overall winners might not win either race.



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Posted 16 September 2022 - 13:34

Aggregate result on time I think. So in theory the overall winners might not win either race.

Indeed - the two heats are aggregated together to find the overall winner. 

 

In my view, a flaw in the St Mary's Trophy is that sometimes the car owner might be a notable driver and therefore competes in the 'Am' part of the event (e.g. Steve Soper and Matt Neal in years past). To my mind this isn't really in keeping with the spirit of the event. 



#17 Gary C

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Posted 16 September 2022 - 15:01

I'm enjoying the live stream in far off Nairobi...

#18 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 04:12

Watching the telecast. Some decent driving and some very nice cars [and some not so nice] But so many have useless numbers,, black on navy or BRG cars. One car has a illegible number,, half of it is covered. For the spectators on the mound and the Live stream coverage they are illegible.

Here in Oz you have to have A, a background and B your background cannot be the color of the car. A is important. B is rubbish BUT legible numbers are essential. 



#19 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 04:13

Indeed - the two heats are aggregated together to find the overall winner. 

 

In my view, a flaw in the St Mary's Trophy is that sometimes the car owner might be a notable driver and therefore competes in the 'Am' part of the event (e.g. Steve Soper and Matt Neal in years past). To my mind this isn't really in keeping with the spirit of the event. 

Dario Franchiti and Scott Dixon!!



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#20 Gary C

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 06:12

Was astounded to find out yesterday that NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson is driving this weekend, I don't know what he's driving though, perhaps someone could fill me in on that one?

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 06:30

Was astounded to find out yesterday that NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson is driving this weekend, I don't know what he's driving though, perhaps someone could fill me in on that one?

A Galaxie and a Cobra. Technically he's 'ex-NASCAR' though, as he's been driving in IndyCar for the past two seasons.

 

 

Dario Franchiti and Scott Dixon!!

They're in the Stirling Moss Memorial Trophy, not the St Mary's. Dario is also sharing Gregor Fisken's Cobra in the TT Celebration and is listed as entrant of a J40 in the Settrington Trophy.



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Posted 17 September 2022 - 06:34

Jimmie Johnson is racing a Gregor Fisken entered Ford Galaxie in today's St Mary's Trophy (number 59) and an AC Cobra entered by Shaun Lynn in tomorrow's TT race. Hopefully he isn't superstitious as that car carries number 13.

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 08:02

Thanks for the link to the entry list.

I think it is so nice for Classic Team Lotus to give Damon Hill’s son, and Graham's grandson, a race in a 49.

One question - the Austin 7 entry is huge and covers everything from racers to box saloons. Is this an actual race or a controlled parade?

I remember the late John Miles, who was a vehicle dynamics expert and A7 fanatic as well as a very good racing driver, having some firm views on what was, and was not, safe in terms of racing A7's

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 08:16

The 7s are track parade only, although there are various racing specials amongst them - notably Bruce McLaren's and Eric Broadley's. The thatched one is rather cute ...



#25 BRG

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 09:51

Watching the telecast. Some decent driving and some very nice cars [and some not so nice] But so many have useless numbers,, black on navy or BRG cars. One car has a illegible number,, half of it is covered. For the spectators on the mound and the Live stream coverage they are illegible.

Here in Oz you have to have A, a background and B your background cannot be the color of the car. A is important. B is rubbish BUT legible numbers are essential. 

Agreed, Lee.  I am sure that in the days that the Revival is seeking to revive, legible numbers as you state would have been required, or the poor old timekeepers with only their stop watches and Mark 1 eyeballs to help them would have struggled.  Of course the culprits might have found themselves omitted from the timing sheets!



#26 nicanary

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 10:00

How is the starting grid for the Settrington Cup decided? Seems a bit unfair on the kids at the far end. Absolutely no chance.



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Posted 17 September 2022 - 10:35

How is the starting grid for the Settrington Cup decided? Seems a bit unfair on the kids at the far end. Absolutely no chance.

I think it's done by age.  The littler'uns at the front.



#28 nicanary

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 10:41

I think it's done by age.  The littler'uns at the front.

Thanks. Makes sense.



#29 amerikalei

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 11:28

Nice Graham Hill tribute.  His career certainly transcended a remarkable era in race car development. 



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Posted 17 September 2022 - 13:11

Somebody needs to explain to Ben Edwards that the TT and the Goodwood 9 Hours were not the same thing ...



#31 nicanary

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 13:58

Somebody needs to explain to Ben Edwards that the TT and the Goodwood 9 Hours were not the same thing ...

There have been other mistakes - apparently the Bristol engine was derived from a pre-war BMW "507 and 508" (sic). To be fair, I couldn't do the job............



#32 Macca

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 14:51

Realised after my last post that Attwood and Derek Bell, both 80, are indeed racing.

Also I saw David Piper (aged 90) in the paddock, and understand Cedric Selzer is there.

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#33 nicanary

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 15:35

Oh my! The Lotus 30 - a Lotus 20 with 10 more mistakes.



#34 Gary C

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 15:50

Bob Dance is there, with CTL, looking after the 25, I think.

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 17:03

Oh my! The Lotus 30 - a Lotus 20 with 10 more mistakes.

I think you'll find the 30 was the 40 with ten fewer mistakes.  ;)

 

Or did I miss something in the commentary?



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Posted 17 September 2022 - 18:19

The Lotus 0 was brilliant.



#37 nicanary

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 18:37

I think you'll find the 30 was the 40 with ten fewer mistakes.  ;)

 

Or did I miss something in the commentary?

I definitely heard it said as per my quote. Ditto that  the blue E-type with a white intake band was an homage to Ecurie Ecosse.- not Equipe Endeavour ?



#38 BRG

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 18:43

 A fine effort by WRC driver Craig Breen, taking 4th in the St Mary's Trophy race in a Lotus Cortina, finishing close behind the similar car of Andrew Jordan.  Excellent work - rally drivers rule!



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Posted 17 September 2022 - 18:51

I definitely heard it said as per my quote.

I was away from the screen for about ten minutes in the buildup to that race. Which is why I added the second sentence.

 

I did hear the Ecurie Ecosse one though.



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#40 Macca

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 18:57

The Lotus 30? Just a Lotus XI with XIX more mistakes.

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 19:42

Somebody needs to explain to Ben Edwards that the TT and the Goodwood 9 Hours were not the same thing ...

Agreed !

 

My late father drove (in practice) for the first 9 Hour race. He didn't get to race as the owner blew the Healey Silverstone up trying to match my father's practice time, in the first hour !

 

He certainly never drove in the TT ! 



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Posted 17 September 2022 - 19:52

The 7s are track parade only, although there are various racing specials amongst them - notably Bruce McLaren's and Eric Broadley's. The thatched one is rather cute ...

 

The most notable racing 'special' was X1010, Ian Moore's 'Jade Duck', which was the first Works single-seater built, and in 'Yellow Canary' form was the first Seven (and the first 750cc on British soil) to be officially timed at 100mph.



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Posted 17 September 2022 - 21:10

Do we know why the BRM V16 retired?



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Posted 17 September 2022 - 21:24

My late father drove (in practice) for the first 9 Hour race. He didn't get to race as the owner blew the Healey Silverstone up trying to match my father's practice time, in the first hour !


Your photo of the car I think, Adam:

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 21:58

Do we know why the BRM V16 retired?

Overengineered?



#46 Bloggsworth

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 22:01

The Lotus 30? Just a Lotus XI with XIX more mistakes.

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Late one night, at Delemare Road, while building the 1964 Indycars, the 30 was fired up for the first time and went up and down the yard - The torsional rigidity of a stick of wet macaroni... Rumour has it that the dashboard fell into Tony Hegbourne's lap during the first test at Brands.



#47 Bloggsworth

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Posted 17 September 2022 - 22:08

The 7s are track parade only, although there are various racing specials amongst them - notably Bruce McLaren's and Eric Broadley's. The thatched one is rather cute ...

Quickest turn-in of any car I've ever driven, the quarter-elliptic springs promoting both bump and roll eversteer. Two people in the back rocking in sync and the car would serpentine down the road, great fun!



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Posted 18 September 2022 - 06:42

Somebody needs to explain to Ben Edwards that the TT and the Goodwood 9 Hours were not the same thing ...

 

Do you mean Martin Haven? 

As demonstrated at the Classic, his knowledge of historic racing is poor. Don't know why Goodwood dropped the excellent Marcus Pye.



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Posted 18 September 2022 - 06:48

Your photo of the car I think, Adam:

1-B40-F34-A-A803-42-A3-AFDF-03-AE17-DF1-

Indeed. The car does not survive, sadly. Don't know who the mechanic peering into the engine area is, but the great Freddie Dixon built the engine, and was on hand to look after it.

 

He was apparently highly pissed off when it blew up so early, and disappeared to the bar for a few "double-doubles" !!



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Posted 18 September 2022 - 07:07

Do we know why the BRM V16 retired?

Tradition?