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Poll: Who will replace Latifi (139 member(s) have cast votes)

Who will replace Latifi

  1. Nyck de Vries (48 votes [34.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 34.53%

  2. Logan Sargeant (50 votes [35.97%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.97%

  3. Mick Schumacher (26 votes [18.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 18.71%

  4. someone else (15 votes [10.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.79%

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#1 noikeee

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 09:36

Confirmed out of Williams at the end of 2022.



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#2 Ragamuffin

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 09:39

I can almost hear the collective sigh of relief.



#3 Scaboo22

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 09:40

At this point I'm pretty much done trying to predict what will happen. Wouldn't be surprised if it's Hakkinen at Alpine and Coulthard at Williams at this point. I'll just stand back and watch.



#4 Risil

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 09:44

Oh I thought you meant immediately. Well watch this space I suppose.



#5 messy

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 09:44

He’ll be an excellent backmarker in Formula E, straight swap for Giovinazzi.

#6 Risil

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 09:44

I'm very influenced by the last thing I saw so I vote De Vries as a replacement.



#7 Sterzo

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 09:47

Ah, so Latifi hasn't gone, but will be going, much as expected. I'd stick de Vries in the seat, on the basis that amongst a number of candidates, he's shown he's very likely to hack it.



#8 thegamer23

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 09:47

Latifi Gone

 

Latifi Goat



#9 Anja

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 09:47

I'm very influenced by the last thing I saw so I vote De Vries as a replacement.

 

Are you sure you're not an F1 team principal?



#10 dweller23

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 09:52

We need Ericsson's prophecy to come to live, so I'm going with De Vries.



#11 messy

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:03

Seriously, on Latifi, he was developing quite nicely in mid 2021 and sometimes outracing a guy who’s now matching a 7 time World Champion at Mercedes. So at his best he wasn’t that bad. But he regressed loads in 2022 and has contributed virtually nothing this season, so he needed to go really. I’d hope that if De Vries capitalizes on his ‘flavour of the month’ status and secures a Mercedes drive as expected, then Sargeant would be next in line but who knows really. I really thought De Vries would be a cert until he started being linked with everyone.

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:11

Williams will need to replace the money that Latifi brought in to the team so I expect it will be Logan Sargeant replacing him, he has an uncle who is a billionaire so he's not short of money.

 

https://en.wikipedia...ry_Sargeant_III


Edited by owenmahamilton, 23 September 2022 - 10:15.


#13 Risil

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:13

What's Logan Sargeant like? I don't follow F2 particularly closely and he hasn't really grabbed my attention.



#14 jonpollak

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:14

The American back marker.

Jp

#15 jonpollak

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:25

SIR YES SIR !!!

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#16 Beri

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:27

Williams will need to replace the money that Latifi brought in to the team so I expect it will be Logan Sargeant replacing him, he has an uncle who is a billionaire so he's not short of money.

 

https://en.wikipedia...ry_Sargeant_III

 

Williams doesnt necessarily need the money thanks to Dorilton. It would be a welcome addition none the less.

I find it telling that Dorilton saw out the original contract of Latifi instead of booting him out last year. But he did show less than was expected and one can not keep on making excuses for not performing. Capito's latest statements that Latifi was influenced by the death threats via Social Media which in effect also influenced his performance, is a bit far fetched if I am honest.



#17 noikeee

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:27

What's Logan Sargeant like? I don't follow F2 particularly closely and he hasn't really grabbed my attention.

Good but inconsistent.

 

Matched Piastri as team-mate in F3 but had more experience.



#18 Beri

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:29

Good but inconsistent.

 

Matched Piastri as team-mate in F3 but had more experience.

 

Inconsistency is something that can be fixed. Lacking speed cant be fixed. So I'd opt for Sargeant.



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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:30

I’d hope that if De Vries capitalizes on his ‘flavour of the month’ status and secures a Mercedes drive as expected

 

What? Which of Hamilton and Russell is making way for this move?



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#20 messy

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:39

Sigh

#21 Ruusperi

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:47

Latifi Indy 500 winner 2025 confirmed?  ;)



#22 RedRabbit

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 10:55

Williams will need to replace the money that Latifi brought in to the team so I expect it will be Logan Sargeant replacing him, he has an uncle who is a billionaire so he's not short of money.

https://en.wikipedia...ry_Sargeant_III


Why does it have to be a pay driver rookie? Maybe the performances of Albon and De Vries have opened their eyes a little, and there might be a few senior engineers who now believe their car isn't dead last and 2 decent, experienced drivers would mix it in the proper midfield regularly.

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:01

Inconsistency is something that can be fixed. Lacking speed cant be fixed. So I'd opt for Sargeant.

I always thought the combination of Hulkenburg and Perez was an ideal driver pairing for a midfield team - one is a fairly consistent point scorer, and the other was less consistent, but capable of a couple giant slaying performances each season that brought the team an unexpected podium or two.

At the end of the season though, their points tally would be quite similar, just got there differently.

Another pairing that did the same, but less effectively was the Williams duo of Maldonado and Bruno Senna. Senna quietly scored a similar amount of points to Maldonado, but didn't have any headline grabbing drives, like winning a race.

And this is what Williams should look for now.

Edited by RedRabbit, 23 September 2022 - 11:02.


#24 PayasYouRace

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:03

Mick at Williams seems to fit, if he’s really on his way out of Haas.

As for Latifi. He’s had a decent run as far as classic pay drivers go. But his time is up and time to make space for new talent.

#25 DeKnyff

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:04

Not really a surprise.

 

However, there were some moments in 2020 and 2021 when he didn't seem that bad. But then he went backwards.



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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:05

One credit I give to him: if you followed his feeder career his development since his final F2 season (where he suddenly was a frontrunner) is insane, you dont score points on multiple occasions in the worst car (and sometimes a bit better) and occasionally outrace a good driver just like that, sadly he showed this too rarely and since the new cars he is entirely out of his depth.



#27 Mechanic44

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:07

Max has still got Yuki as back up so not a big loss 😝

No but seriously he wasn’t deserving of that seat and has had more than enough time to prove himself. I have no idea how he has lasted this long, or his Monopoly money ran out.

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:11

Mick at Williams seems to fit, if he’s really on his way out of Haas.

As for Latifi. He’s had a decent run as far as classic pay drivers go. But his time is up and time to make space for new talent.

 

Agree with Mick... hopefully secures a drive.

 

 

One credit I give to him: if you followed his feeder career his development since his final F2 season (where he suddenly was a frontrunner) is insane, you dont score points on multiple occasions in the worst car (and sometimes a bit better) and occasionally outrace a good driver just like that, sadly he showed this too rarely and since the new cars he is entirely out of his depth.

 

Possibly how he got his F1 shot... but was a flash in the pan



#29 absinthedude

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:15

Latifi showed some promise last year and wasn't totally useless...but he's achieved nothing this year and I am not surprised he's going to be dropped.

 

Sergeant, de Vries, Mick....they'd probably all be better.

 

Williams are likely to want money, so I expect it'll be Logan. But I have to admit, if I were running the team I'd try to get de Vries in the car. Albon is doing a solid job.



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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:16

Latifi showed some promise last year and wasn't totally useless...but he's achieved nothing this year and I am not surprised he's going to be dropped.

 

Sergeant, de Vries, Mick....they'd probably all be better.

 

Williams are likely to want money, so I expect it'll be Logan. But I have to admit, if I were running the team I'd try to get de Vries in the car. Albon is doing a solid job.

 

Mick has some funds from his German backers... 



#31 noikeee

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:17

"how did he get his shot", "how did he last that long"

Umm, hello? Guys, he's rich.

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:17

I think they will wait and see if Sargeant makes it to the superlicence. If yes, he would be the ideal solution - talented driver, potentially coming with backing if F1 gains momentum in the US. 

 

In case he does not make it (or is not deemed ready yet) De Vries would be the most logical alternative, but he seems to be in demand from other teams too.



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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:21

Seriously, on Latifi, he was developing quite nicely in mid 2021 and sometimes outracing a guy who’s now matching a 7 time World Champion at Mercedes. So at his best he wasn’t that bad. But he regressed loads in 2022 and has contributed virtually nothing this season, so he needed to go really. I’d hope that if De Vries capitalizes on his ‘flavour of the month’ status and secures a Mercedes drive as expected, then Sargeant would be next in line but who knows really. I really thought De Vries would be a cert until he started being linked with everyone.

Another thing that should be said about Latifi is that (IIRC) he conducted himself with good manners and respect, not like certain other recent pay drivers who always had/have had an attitude.



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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:22

I hope it's de Vries in a Mercedes deal to see if he's good enough to replace Hamilton once he retires.

Schumacher would be okay if he won't be staying at Haas.

Sargeant... I'm not sure he's good enough for F1.



#35 messy

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:22

Sargeant was coming on so strong in F2, becoming the feature race form guy, then he started DNFing and hasn’t really stopped.

The SL points rely on what, top four in the standings? He’s still there at the moment but needs to start finishing races again.

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:25

Any of the three mentioned above would be a step up.  De Vries couldn't have done any better standing in for Albon so it would be interesting to see how he would go with a full season.  I wouldn't mind Sargeant getting a chance either.



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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:27

Another thing that should be said about Latifi is that (IIRC) he conducted himself with good manners and respect, not like certain other recent pay drivers who always had/have had an attitude.


Yeah. Nice bloke undoubtedly, the anti-Mazepin. Certainly didn’t disgrace himself in 2020 and 2021. I do think though that this is probably by far the highest up the ladder he’ll ever be. I don’t really see him going and doing a Marcus Ericsson in the States, for example. I think he’ll end up in GTs, endurance racing etc, or making a pretty good living as a simulator driver a la Gutierrez.

#38 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 11:52

Nice guy, but completely out of his depth in F1.

Very few will feel sorry he’s leaving, nor remember him 5 seconds after it’s ended. Much better drivers out there.

He just falls into a gigantic bucket of drivers labelled “Meh”.

Edited by ConsiderAndGo, 23 September 2022 - 12:18.


#39 jstrains

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 12:01

Latifi is 2nd Timo Glock but this time it went from Lewis. A Championship contender (decider)  :wave:


Edited by jstrains, 23 September 2022 - 12:04.


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Posted 23 September 2022 - 12:14

Latifi had some decent performances in these last two years.

Occasionally, but still.

 

Think he can find good success & probably much more fun & reward in other categories.

There is a world outside of F1.



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Posted 23 September 2022 - 12:14

Sigh

 

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 12:14

Voted for Mick. That Williams is a good car, which could line him up nicely for Merc in the future.



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Posted 23 September 2022 - 13:05

Seriously, on Latifi, he was developing quite nicely in mid 2021 and sometimes outracing a guy who’s now matching a 7 time World Champion at Mercedes. So at his best he wasn’t that bad. But he regressed loads in 2022 and has contributed virtually nothing this season, 

 

Wait - Perez?



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Posted 23 September 2022 - 13:05

Voted for Mick. That Williams is a good car, which could line him up nicely for Merc in the future.

 

F1 with Mick and without Nyck is ****!



#45 markpenske

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 13:18

I would love see Williams or Alpine give Newgarden a shot. At 31 he's got a few good years left in him



#46 MKSixer

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 13:23

Seriously, on Latifi, he was developing quite nicely in mid 2021 and sometimes outracing a guy who’s now matching a 7 time World Champion at Mercedes. So at his best he wasn’t that bad. But he regressed loads in 2022 and has contributed virtually nothing this season, so he needed to go really. I’d hope that if De Vries capitalizes on his ‘flavour of the month’ status and secures a Mercedes drive as expected, then Sargeant would be next in line but who knows really. I really thought De Vries would be a cert until he started being linked with everyone.

Damning with faint praise, personified.  

Nicely done, sir!



#47 Baddoer

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 13:24

Sad day. He was there to prove his worth, he never complained and tried his best. But he failed. Never forget.



#48 MKSixer

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 13:27

Another thing that should be said about Latifi is that (IIRC) he conducted himself with good manners and respect, not like certain other recent pay drivers who always had/have had an attitude.

And this is something he can be proud of.  He has comported himself like a gentleman throughout his career.  Nothing to be sneered at, whatsoever.



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Posted 23 September 2022 - 13:28

I voted someone else because I don't think Williams will make a choice from those listed.  But if I were them, I would probably give Schumacher the ride.  He does crash the car a bit, but he's also come on pace-wise and honestly I think he's probably the better driver currently at Haas.  Plus, he definitely will be able to bring the sponsor support that Williams could do with.  I think De Vries is likely at Alpha Tauri, and Logan is maybe not yet quite ready for F1.  Albon has done quite well this year proving doubters wrong in that Williams, and a teammate with similar motivations could probably do well paired with him.


Edited by juicy sushi, 23 September 2022 - 13:42.


#50 ARTGP

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Posted 23 September 2022 - 13:40

I say Ricciardo. He would be mad to take a year out. There's no coming back from that.