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[Clrnc]

Anyway they outlawed what happened at SPA last year right? Any idea what happens if the race runs behind SC for 5 or 10 laps and then ends?

[flyboym3]

Is the 4 hour race time box now removed and open ended?

[TheFish]

Anyway they outlawed what happened at SPA last year right? Any idea what happens if the race runs behind SC for 5 or 10 laps and then ends?

No race. Needs 2 laps in green conditions for it to be a race.

[F1 Mike]

Is this the wettest time of the year in that part of Asia? MotoGP Thailand also heavily delayed this morning due to heavy rain storms. Surely makes sense to visit these places in drier months??

[dweller23]

Rain is going to stop in 10-15mins. A lot of time for the water to go into the drain system.

 

http://www.weather.g...rain-area-50km/

 

They are going to wait until they run on inters and thats just stupid.

But as Buxton showed, the problem isn't as much the rain itself, as the drainage system which already was overloaded 5 minutes ago when he jumped on that piece of tarmac in the paddock to show the situation.
 

[Okyo]

How's visibility in the street lights compared to day time when we have loads of spray? 

Edited by Okyo, 02 October 2022 - 11:29.

[sheSgoTthElooK]

jeez it's pouring down. 

 

chaos race incoming.

[milestone 11]

Is the 4 hour race time box now removed and open ended?

No, and it's 3 hours not 4

[Risil]

Race thread here: https://forums.autos...gp-race-thread/

[cheekybru]

3 hour window starts in 30 minutes

[PitViperRacing]

Just throw the cars out already. Let the boys play

[HerbieMcQueen]

Leclerc has had many great drives in his short/young career. Monaco was an absolute masterclass, ruined by his team; he was 10+ seconds ahead of Verstappen in extraordinarily wet conditions. Ditto for Spain, ruined by a mechanical. Austria he managed to pull it off despite a stuck throttle. Silverstone was ridiculously impressive considering he was missing part of his front-wing. Yes, he makes mistakes, as do all other F1 drivers. 

 

What makes you think Hamilton would be hampered by his car? Pace looked good in qualifying and Mercedes has had, on average, best tire deg this season. If it's as wet as you're predicting (I don't think it will be), raw pace from the car will be largely irrelevant and track position/driver skill will mean everything. 

Leclerc will win championships with the right machinery, but I don't think I'll ever consider him as mentally strong compared to his peers. In circumstances such as these, I'll choose to believe that he's got a mistake in him.

 

I didn't predict the rain, as much as I'd like that ability, but I looked at the soaking wet circuit being pummeled by rain as we speak. Overall, it'll be one to survive.

[hamilton10000]

Honestly already concerned we won't get a race. Based on how slow it dryed yesterday and the fact there's only a 3 hour limit, and its still raining, its definitely a worry.

[Ali_G]

Who’s Eddie K? Eddie Kidd?

[milestone 11]

Race thread here: https://forums.autos...gp-race-thread/

You're optimistic Risil.

[F1 Mike]

3 hour window starts in 30 minutes

And it's absolutely idiotic to have these time windows. There are no winners with this schedule limit.

[MurMur80]

3 hour window starts in 30 minutes

You git to be kidding me. They made stupid rule even worse. 

[ConsiderAndGo]

Think this one might be called off you know.

[Risil]

You're optimistic Risil.

What have I got to lose?

[catent]

3 hour window starts in 30 minutes

 

ugh ... ffs

[JimmyClark]

And it's absolutely idiotic to have these time windows. There are no winners with this schedule limit.

Indeed, it is annoying. One of the all time classics - Canada 2011 - wouldn't happen under that rule.

However, in Spa last year they did stop the overall time clock to try to make something happen, so there is precedent.

[Clatter]

It's funny after several telling us at the start of thread how it's the same forecast every year, and it rains early but will be dry for the race.

[jwill189]

Indeed, it is annoying. One of the all time classics - Canada 2011 - wouldn't happen under that rule.

However, in Spa last year they did stop the overall time clock to try to make something happen, so there is precedent.

 

This. It's also a night race. The moon and the dark sky isn't going anywhere for 10 hours.

[MurMur80]

Still raining. 

[ARTGP]

Seidl thinks rain will let up and normal procedure 

[cheekybru]

Still raining.

Rain is meant to stop (according to Google) in the next 15 mins, and not start again, so fingers crossed we should be ok

[MurMur80]

Rain is meant to stop (according to Google) in the next 15 mins, and not start again, so fingers crossed we should be ok

That is what people posted 30 minutes ago, that it will stop in 15 minutes. Still raining. Rain radars are useless. 

[GiorgioF1]

My body is ready for the race shitshow   

[ARTGP]

Where are the track sweepers? 

[ARTGP]

Not sure this will be a great race. Wet start means 1 racing/dry line. It will be nearly impossible to overtake. 

[RedRabbit]

Leclerc has had many great drives in his short/young career. Monaco was an absolute masterclass, ruined by his team; he was 10+ seconds ahead of Verstappen in extraordinarily wet conditions. Ditto for Spain, ruined by a mechanical. Austria he managed to pull it off despite a stuck throttle. Silverstone was ridiculously impressive considering he was missing part of his front-wing. Yes, he makes mistakes, as do all other F1 drivers.

What makes you think Hamilton would be hampered by his car? Pace looked good in qualifying and Mercedes has had, on average, best tire deg this season. If it's as wet as you're predicting (I don't think it will be), raw pace from the car will be largely irrelevant and track position/driver skill will mean everything.

There was also Silverstone in 2021 & 2020. Monza and Austria in 2019. Bahrain in 2019.

Also some other very impressive drives in 2020. He could have won Singapore in 2019 too, except Ferrari allowing Vettel to undercut him.

I can see Leclerc winning today too, if Ferrari don't find some new way to muck it up

[JimmyClark]

The rain has stopped. Get the start procedure going. Do 4 laps of the whole field behind the safety car to disperse the puddles. Standing start.

Sorted.

We want to see the best drivers in the world at their peak in difficult conditions. That's why we like this sport.

[w1Y]

Max will be top 3 very quickly. Then win

[Tenmantaylor]

Does anyone think LeClerc will win? It just feels odds on he'll crash or Ferrari will screw him for the nth time.

[Dolph]

Magnussen with end plate damage again.

[Dolph]

Black and orange for Magnussen now.

[Ben24]

Lol the weather forecast wrong as always.

Its gonna be a crazy race

You should really never trust a weather forecast you see online for rain within the next 24 hours. I've lived all over the world and no matter where I live I've always found that looking at the rainfall radar is much more accurate than looking at whatever forecast you can find online with a quick google search. Those forecasts you see online are generally made a long way ahead of time and aren't updated constantly throughout the day as conditions change.

 

In the case of this race it actually appeared as though rain was most likely coming close to the start of the race almost the entire day if you watched the radar (the usual google forecasts never suggested this was a possibility because they were never updated within the last 12 hours before the race). There was a brief period of an hour or so where it looked like the rain front had dissipated (which turned out out to be temporary) and it might actually be a dry race, but if you had been watching the radar all day you would have known that rain near the start of the race appeared to be likely pretty much the entire day.

[sketchy2001]

My question is couldn't he finish the lap and park the car safely somewhere after the finish line? Or is that not allowed?

The car needs to have the sample + a notional 1 lap of fuel on board when it crosses the line before returning to the pits. 

If the car stops before returning to the pits then it has to be demonstrated that the car had enough fuel to return to the pits under its own power and still provide the sample.