No independent wins this year is surely a first for a very very long time. That’s quite a stat.
No independent wins? Good grief!
Posted 08 October 2023 - 17:34
No independent wins this year is surely a first for a very very long time. That’s quite a stat.
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Posted 08 October 2023 - 17:38
No independent wins this year is surely a first for a very very long time. That’s quite a stat.
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Posted 08 October 2023 - 18:49
No independent wins this year is surely a first for a very very long time. That’s quite a stat.
Like peak Super Touring then.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 19:21
Like peak Super Touring then.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 19:21
Like peak Super Touring then.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 19:25
Yep my favourite era. I think there should be a gap between the manufacturers and the independents. I don't think it's been a classic season but I am truly delighted for Sutton. The clear standard driver and domination with so many race wins. He deserves it despite the series' attempts to artificially mix up grids.
Edited by WonderWoman61, 08 October 2023 - 19:28.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 19:27
I'd rather Sutton win title No.5 in 2027 or so. Let's have a bit more competition.
There's a reason Scott Dixon is my favourite multiple champion. 6 titles but never defended one.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 19:29
Admittedly, it would be nice to see someone other than Sutton, Ingram or Turks to win the title for once.I'd rather Sutton win title No.5 in 2027 or so. Let's have a bit more competition.
There's a reason Scott Dixon is my favourite multiple champion. 6 titles but never defended one.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 20:09
Edited by WonderWoman61, 08 October 2023 - 20:10.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 20:40
Admittedly, it would be nice to see someone other than Sutton, Ingram or Turks to win the title for once.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 20:49
If Jake Hill can calm down a bit he's got to have a good shot next year. Aside Sutton, Ingram, Turkington and Hill it's difficult to see where the next champion comes from. Cammish should have had a better season. Cook would do well in a manufacturer team. They are the top drivers in the series.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 20:49
Oh and Daryl DeLeon is the first driver from outside the British Isles to score points in the BTCC since Robb Holland and Alain Menu in 2015.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 21:16
Oh and Daryl DeLeon is the first driver from outside the British Isles to score points in the BTCC since Robb Holland and Alain Menu in 2015.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 21:22
His bio says he was born in Ireland.
Edited by WonderWoman61, 08 October 2023 - 21:24.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 21:45
Well he's half-British, half-Filipino.
But he’s definitely not from outside the British Isles, heritage not withstanding. A bit like Alex Albon.
Posted 08 October 2023 - 21:53
I'll rephrase my previous comment then:But he’s definitely not from outside the British Isles, heritage not withstanding. A bit like Alex Albon.
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Posted 08 October 2023 - 22:51
Despite challenges it’s still been a very good season and I’m sad to see it end.
Would have felt wrong had Ash not won it such has been his superiority, I said on here last winter what a shed the focus was so hats off to the Napa team for the job they have done re-engineering it into the unstoppable force it’s been.
Will be a very interesting I suspect with possibly some new cars to come.
Posted 09 October 2023 - 07:57
Hill and Cook would be right up with Sutton and Ingram with the right equipment. Here's hoping.
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Posted 09 October 2023 - 08:53
Since when has Hill not got the right equipment? Sutton and Ingram are the difference makers here. Put them in any car on the grid (yes any) and they’d be fighting for the title, if not first year then their second year.
He did last year, and could/should have won the title with fewer mistakes. But he was up there. I find it difficult to believe that BMW didn't go backwards this year, relative to the competition.
Posted 09 October 2023 - 09:40
He did last year, and could/should have won the title with fewer mistakes. But he was up there. I find it difficult to believe that BMW didn't go backwards this year, relative to the competition.
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I agreeJust caught up with the last race.
Fantastic! BTCC at its best!
Posted 09 October 2023 - 21:42
Why? They wouldn’t meet the original accident until the next lap when they would be behind the safety car.
Posted 09 October 2023 - 22:26
Here are the qualifying 'supertimes' for the 2023 BTCC season. This takes the fastest qualifying lap for every driver and car, and ranks them against the fastest overall for the weekend as a percentage to estimate the order of the drivers and cars for overall speed.
For the cars, the results are:
1 Ford 100.011
2 BMW 100.289
3 Hyundai 100.410
4 Toyota 100.623
5 Honda 100.631
6 Vauxhall 100.865
7 Cupra 100.953
This supports the general idea that the Ford was the fastest car this season. They did take nine poles out of ten, after all! The BMW was faster than the Hyundai, which is probably what you would expect despite Ingram's brilliant second in the championship, and this difference in pace shows just how well Ingram did this year. Of course, this doesn't take into account the difference in driver ability, so it could just be Sutton making the difference. This is the result for the drivers, with anomalous results highlighted:
1 Ash Sutton 100.074
2 Jake Hill 100.337
3 Tom Ingram 100.410
4 Colin Turkington 100.457
5 Josh Cook 100.631
6 Dan Cammish 100.688 (drops to 100.371 - 3rd - without Knockhill)
7 Rory Butcher 100.770
8 Dan Rowbottom 100.833
9 Ricky Collard 100.911
10 Aron Taylor-Smith 100.977
11 Bobby Thompson 101.109
12 Dan Lloyd 101.111
13 Tom Chilton 101.133
14 Ronan Pearson 101.171
15 Andrew Watson 101.210
16 Adam Morgan 101.213 (drops to 100.832 - 8th - without Brands Hatch)
17 Stephen Jelley 101.262
18 Aiden Moffat 101.275
19 Mikey Doble 101.362
20 Sam Osborne 101.527
21 George Gamble 101.539
22 Dexter Patterson 101.640
23 Michael Crees 101.777
24 James Gornall 101.807
25 Jack Butel 102.085
26 Jade Edwards (Honda) 102.130
27 Rob Huff 102.503
28 Jade Edwards (Cupra) 102.862
29 Nic Hamilton 103.569
30 Daryl DeLeon 103.724 (drops to 101.989 - 25th - without Knockhill)
31 Nick Halstead 103.775
32 Will Powell 104.960
The big gap between Sutton and the rest demonstrates how good he is, although I think the results overall still suggest that the Ford is the best car.
Edited by F1Frog, 09 October 2023 - 22:27.
Posted 11 October 2023 - 11:44
Steve Rider has been diagnosed with prostate cancer. It sounds like they've caught it early enough for surgery to be effective. Godspeed to him!
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