Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

2022 Singapo[u]re GP: race thread!


  • Please log in to reply
1910 replies to this topic

#1 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 52,369 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:29

Yes, the thread title was so good I stole it.

 

It's race time! Charles Leclerc and Sergio Perez line up on the front row after a fuel-related twist of fate saw Max Verstappen abandon most of his qualifying laps and wind up 8th. He'll be marginally more pissed off than Lewis Hamilton, whose car was working well and probably, maybe could've reached the front row, and in all likelihood a lot less pissed off than George Russell, who had a terrible nightmare of a qualifying, missed Q3 and now starts stone last after an engine change.

 

It's also raining. How about that! Pit and tyre strategy will probably be determined by the vagaries of incidents and the relative certainty of the track slowly drying as the evening develops in its unhurried, sticky tropical way.

 

Weather permitting, the race gets underway at 1pm BST, adjust according to taste / that big graphic of race times around the world that SophieB and TomNokoe alway manages to find and I never do.

 

Enjoy! First Singapore since 2019! Hope it's a good one!



Advertisement

#2 PitViperRacing

PitViperRacing
  • Member

  • 676 posts
  • Joined: October 21

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:30

Just start the race ffs. Let the boys play.

#3 Mosrite

Mosrite
  • Member

  • 1,081 posts
  • Joined: December 14

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:30

2-lap procession, very exciting 



#4 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 52,369 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:32

Catching up on news here, but START DELAYED

uqxN297.jpg



#5 Muppetmad

Muppetmad
  • Member

  • 8,939 posts
  • Joined: September 09

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:32

I don't mind waiting, as long as we get a proper race in!



#6 Redaxo

Redaxo
  • Member

  • 559 posts
  • Joined: July 11

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:32

Get out the wet tyres and just run the race ffs.



#7 CSF

CSF
  • Member

  • 2,441 posts
  • Joined: January 11

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:32

Congrats to Charles on the win!



#8 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 52,369 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:32

No one is racing until this weather improves, cut the FIA some slack



#9 NickeF1

NickeF1
  • Member

  • 1,019 posts
  • Joined: July 02

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:33

No chance they’ll race today.

#10 ConsiderAndGo

ConsiderAndGo
  • Member

  • 8,089 posts
  • Joined: May 09

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:33

This ain’t happening. No way.

#11 Clrnc

Clrnc
  • Member

  • 5,255 posts
  • Joined: March 15

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:33

The rain here is horrendous. The track in front of me has 2cm high standing water because the drainage system is flooded from all the barrier covering most of it.

Yesterday the rained stopped at 520pm and it took almost till the end of qualifying at 10pm to have a Dry line forming.

You make your guess if we will have a race today :(

#12 EndlessMotion

EndlessMotion
  • Member

  • 3,315 posts
  • Joined: December 13

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:33

Think we might be waiting around a fair bit over the next 3 hours........but hopefully when the current downpour ends shortly it will hold off for a while and we can get underway.



#13 ArchieTech

ArchieTech
  • Member

  • 2,626 posts
  • Joined: May 15

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:33

It was supposed to get underway at 1pm BST (but clearly is going to be delayed by the weather.)



#14 pRy

pRy
  • Member

  • 23,141 posts
  • Joined: March 99

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:34

Insane amount of standing water.

#15 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 52,369 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:35

It was supposed to get underway at 1pm BST (but clearly is going to be delayed by the weather.)

Lol, I clearly misread Radio 5 Extra's schedule. Always catches me out how Singapore schedules qualifying at a different time to the race.



#16 TauriJ

TauriJ
  • Member

  • 2,758 posts
  • Joined: July 16

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:35

To they Even have enough inters?

#17 hamilton10000

hamilton10000
  • Member

  • 505 posts
  • Joined: March 11

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:35

Yeah don't think I've ever seen this much water on track, maybe Malaysia 09.

But as we saw yesterday the drying takes ages so very concerned for this actually getting going, even when it stops

#18 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 52,369 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:35

Can someone give a poor ignorant soul an update on what the "three hour rule" is? Assume it's not related to the three second rule?



#19 ARTGP

ARTGP
  • Member

  • 23,573 posts
  • Joined: March 19

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:35

Well this sucks



Advertisement

#20 SagemX

SagemX
  • Member

  • 1,183 posts
  • Joined: July 19

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:36

Get out the wet tyres and just run the race ffs.

Yeah, no chance, send them out in that weather and you'll have them doing 10 minutes per lap with how flooded the track is.



#21 Tiakumosan

Tiakumosan
  • Member

  • 1,162 posts
  • Joined: February 10

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:36

If the 3h countdown starts in 23 minutes, don’t think we will have a race today.

#22 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 52,369 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:37

Well this sucks

Night race in Singapore eh? Whose idea was that?!



#23 SagemX

SagemX
  • Member

  • 1,183 posts
  • Joined: July 19

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:37

Can someone give a poor ignorant soul an update on what the "three hour rule" is? Assume it's not related to the three second rule?

They have a 3 hour window to do run the race.



#24 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 52,369 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:37

Yeah, no chance, send them out in that weather and you'll have them doing 10 minutes per lap with how flooded the track is.

Don't tell me you wouldn't enjoy seeing that



#25 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 52,369 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:37

They have a 3 hour window to do run the race.

Ah so it is a little like the three second rule



#26 IrvTheSwerve

IrvTheSwerve
  • Member

  • 2,874 posts
  • Joined: July 15

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:37

No chance they’ll race today.

Yeah, they will. It is hammering down at the moment to be fair so I can understand the start delay (as much as it frustrates me).

 

1.30 BST start I reckon.

 

The annoying thing will potentially be how long they wait after the rain has stopped. We know the drill. Wait until the track is pretty much inters conditions.



#27 jpm2019

jpm2019
  • Member

  • 1,602 posts
  • Joined: May 19

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:38

If the 3h countdown starts in 23 minutes, don’t think we will have a race today.

Why does it start

#28 JBJ

JBJ
  • Member

  • 909 posts
  • Joined: January 16

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:38

They have a 3 hour window to do run the race.

To start or does it have to end within those 3 hours ?



#29 IrvTheSwerve

IrvTheSwerve
  • Member

  • 2,874 posts
  • Joined: July 15

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:38

Can someone give a poor ignorant soul an update on what the "three hour rule" is? Assume it's not related to the three second rule?

Basically, after 1pm BST there will be no cars running after 4pm BST (whatever happens). Sorry for those not in the UK regarding my times!



#30 ConsiderAndGo

ConsiderAndGo
  • Member

  • 8,089 posts
  • Joined: May 09

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:38

Do they have trucks here to ‘mop’ the surface water away?

#31 Tiakumosan

Tiakumosan
  • Member

  • 1,162 posts
  • Joined: February 10

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:39

Remember the 3 hour rule was introduced* after Canada 2010 took around 8 hours to finish.

*it was a 4 hour rule when it got introduced.

#32 ArchieTech

ArchieTech
  • Member

  • 2,626 posts
  • Joined: May 15

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:39

If all of the laps cannot be completed here is how the points are calculated for up to 25%, 50% and 75% race distance:

 

https://www.racefans...hortened-races/



#33 flyboym3

flyboym3
  • Member

  • 1,386 posts
  • Joined: July 21

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:39

Can someone give a poor ignorant soul an update on what the "three hour rule" is? Assume it's not related to the three second rule?

3 hour countdown starts at 1pm uk, race will be declared finished at 4pm uk regardless. Points awarded dependent on laps complete at 4pm UK.

Edited by flyboym3, 02 October 2022 - 11:40.


#34 IrvTheSwerve

IrvTheSwerve
  • Member

  • 2,874 posts
  • Joined: July 15

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:39

To start or does it have to end within those 3 hours ?

If the race starts at 3pm BST (for example) the race will be an hour long.



#35 vlado

vlado
  • Member

  • 1,669 posts
  • Joined: September 06

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:39

Hm this race might not actually happen

#36 Tiakumosan

Tiakumosan
  • Member

  • 1,162 posts
  • Joined: February 10

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:39

To start or does it have to end within those 3 hours ?

End

#37 IrvTheSwerve

IrvTheSwerve
  • Member

  • 2,874 posts
  • Joined: July 15

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:40

Remember the 3 hour rule was introduced* after Canada 2010 took around 8 hours to finish.

*it was a 4 hour rule when it got introduced.

I think that 3 hours is too short and they should go back to 4.



#38 Laptom

Laptom
  • Member

  • 1,839 posts
  • Joined: August 16

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:40

On the track at the moment, but the rain is crazy. Still they think they will start at 20:30. Hopefully the rain is gone in 30min

#39 pRy

pRy
  • Member

  • 23,141 posts
  • Joined: March 99

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:40

Do they have trucks here to ‘mop’ the surface water away?

 
Let's hope so.

Advertisement

#40 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 52,369 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:40

Remember the 3 hour rule was introduced* after Canada 2010 took around 8 hours to finish.

*it was a 4 hour rule when it got introduced.

I wonder what the rationale for the rule is. It can't be to allow Sky to broadcast Ted's Notebook on schedule.



#41 Muppetmad

Muppetmad
  • Member

  • 8,939 posts
  • Joined: September 09

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:40

Kravitz seems to think the three hour window begins only when the race itself starts. I must admit, I don't know either way!



#42 search

search
  • Member

  • 668 posts
  • Joined: April 10

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:41

Can someone give a poor ignorant soul an update on what the "three hour rule" is? Assume it's not related to the three second rule?

There's normally a 2 hour maximum race distance rule. In case of a suspension, this will be added to that period up to a maximum time of three hours.

 

So if there's a 1:15 suspension, for example, maximum race duration is reduced to 1:45 (according to my understanding of that rule)



#43 andyscoot

andyscoot
  • Member

  • 1,156 posts
  • Joined: May 18

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:41

I always thought the enforced time limit was due so they don't lose the light, so to speak, is that not the case?

#44 milestone 11

milestone 11
  • Member

  • 14,861 posts
  • Joined: April 09

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:41

Can someone give a poor ignorant soul an update on what the "three hour rule" is? Assume it's not related to the three second rule?

The on screen message was "Whole start procedure delayed" My inference from that is that the 3 hour countdown may not start at scheduled race start time.

#45 Tiakumosan

Tiakumosan
  • Member

  • 1,162 posts
  • Joined: February 10

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:41

I wonder what the rationale for the rule is. It can't be to allow Sky to broadcast Ted's Notebook on schedule.

I remember reading that was indeed because of TV schedule.

#46 Risil

Risil
  • Administrator

  • 52,369 posts
  • Joined: February 07

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:42

I always thought the enforced time limit was due so they don't lose the light, so to speak, is that not the case?

 

That ship has sailed :D



#47 Ev0d3vil

Ev0d3vil
  • Member

  • 3,823 posts
  • Joined: January 13

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:42

Rain has stopped.



#48 EndlessMotion

EndlessMotion
  • Member

  • 3,315 posts
  • Joined: December 13

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:42

Yeah, they will. It is hammering down at the moment to be fair so I can understand the start delay (as much as it frustrates me).

 

1.30 BST start I reckon.

 

The annoying thing will potentially be how long they wait after the rain has stopped. We know the drill. Wait until the track is pretty much inters conditions.

Always the way. Understand there are procedures and safety guidelines to follow but F1 has been guilty of missing the moment before when conditions have been like this. Wasn't basic communication part of the reason it took so long for them get cars out on track in one of the more recent wet races?



#49 Ali_G

Ali_G
  • Member

  • 29,574 posts
  • Joined: August 00

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:42

Those Alpine mechanics are a right bunch of laughs.

#50 Muppetmad

Muppetmad
  • Member

  • 8,939 posts
  • Joined: September 09

Posted 02 October 2022 - 11:42

Rain has stopped entirely in the pitlane, and it looks like it is draining decently. Hopefully, the delay won't be significant? Hopefully?