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[flingsofdeon]

As mentioned above, inline with some of the threads looking backwards in f1 history - which would have created the most drama for DTS, which characters would have stood out most and what would have been the main subplots, and twists?

[Silverstone96]

1994 springs to mind, but I’m glad Netflix was around then!

[noikeee]

The Series of Awkward Interviews With Ron Dennis, 1989.

[PayasYouRace]

For some real Mercedes drama, 1936.

[mmmcurry]

'88 Would probably be a borefest, but might be interesting for the start of problems with Prost and Senna. Williams episode for Silverstone.

'90 Ferrari vs McLaren, Prost vs Senna.

'94 Senna dying, Benetton vs Williams, Hill vs Schumacher. Accusations of cheating, pit fires, race bans, and of course Schumacher taking out Hill.

'97 Williams / Villeneuve doing their best to lose the championships, McLaren coming back up to speed, again the end of season shenanigans, 3 cars with the same pole time.

'03 Willaims / McLaren and Ferarri all in the running, tyre wars, etc.

 

Though these are quite heavy around 2 or 3 teams, so not sure how other teams would show in them.

 

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Edited by mmmcurry, 05 October 2022 - 13:15.

[noikeee]

1994 springs to mind, but I’m glad Netflix was around then!

I can't think of anything less appropriate than Will Buxton dramatically narrating actual tragedies.

How about 1986. The 26 different dramatic slow motion replays of a tyre blowout.

Edited by noikeee, 05 October 2022 - 17:15.

[Gareth]

2007 - spygate, Alonso vs Hamilton, crazy end to the season

 

(I'd also contend that this season - and specifically, one moment in Ron Dennis' office in Hungary - had one of the biggest influences on F1 for years to follow of any single moment. The ripple effect was huge)

[messy]

Was going to say 2007 or 2008. But 1999 would have been great too -

- McLaren's reliability woe
- Irvine's plucky underdog to WDC challenger story
- Schumacher's accident and comeback
- Frentzen's revival with Jordan
- the BAR/Villeneuve nightmares
- the European GP lottery
- the Suzuka finale - Irvine's qualifying crash, suspicions about how much Schumacher really wanted to beat Mika that weekend..
- Alex Zanardi's failed switch from the States

I could literally go on forever

[Colbul1]

1982 and the FISA v FOCA war with the drivers striking thrown into the mix.  Although, there was a lot of tragedy that year.

[Marklar]

None.

the one with no interesting content would be artificially pumped up, and the one with interesting content would get dumped down by not actually focusing on the interesting aspects of it.

Edited by Marklar, 05 October 2022 - 13:26.

[PlatenGlass]

I can't think of anything less appropriate than Will Buxton dramatically narrating actual tragedies.
 

 

Similarly 1982 was a pretty insane year, but has the tragedy thing as well.

 

Edit - Got beaten. I should add as well that I've never actually watched this thing so I don't really know how it presents stuff.

Edited by PlatenGlass, 05 October 2022 - 13:28.

[Blundle]

DTS is to documentary making what Fred West was to landscaping so on that basis I'd say none. 

 

A genuine access all areas documentary about the 1994 season would have been fascinating. 1970 also. 

[FortiFord]

97 - mainly because of the Jerez finale, but Suzuka, Canada, Hungary could each get their own episodes. 

98 - plenty of content particularly towards the end of the season - Silverstone finish, Spa crash with Schumacher going over to Coulthard's garage almost seems made for Netflix, Suzuka finale. 

[Beri]

As mentioned above, inline with some of the threads looking backwards in f1 history - which would have created the most drama for DTS, which characters would have stood out most and what would have been the main subplots, and twists?

 

1982. Period.

[Logiso]

2012. Peak Alonso and the drama that comes with it. Vettel resurgance 2nd half of the season. McLaren imploding and Hamilton leaving to Merc. Schumacher retirement, first win for Rosberg. Oh and the final win for Williams by none other than the GOAT Pastor Maldonado. Would have been great DTS content

[Gareth]

None.

the one with no interesting content would be artificially pumped up, and the one with interesting content would get dumped down by not actually focusing on the interesting aspects of it.

I assume the final episode of last season ignores the elephant in the room? I've still not watched it (I like my TV).

[Dan333SP]

None.

the one with no interesting content would be artificially pumped up, and the one with interesting content would get dumped down by not actually focusing on the interesting aspects of it.

 

I get why grumpy F1 fans hate DTS, but I don't get why that needs to be expressed in a thread specifically about what seasons would make for a good DTS series. Can just skip the thread if you hate the series. 

 

Anyway, to the original question, 1999, 2007, 2008, and 2012 for me for all the reasons mentioned elsewhere in the thread. 

[ARTGP]

2008.

Edited by ARTGP, 05 October 2022 - 14:18.

[Risil]

1995 had an interesting and varied set of stories. Damon Hill struggling to be his own man and follow his father, Schumacher running rings around Williams with strategy, Williams signing Jacques Villeneuve midseason, Jean Alesi winning for Ferrari, Johnny Herbert winning for Benetton after his nearly career-ending 1989, Jordan-Peugeot on the rise, Simtek building a good car but running out of sponsorship, Taki Inoue, Nigel Mansell signing for McLaren but the car being a dog, Mika Hakkinen's strong late-season results ending in a nearly fatal accident, etc.

[NickeyF1]

2006 with Michael retiring. The final races, e.g. China, Japan and Brazil would have been quite dramatic too. 

 

Otherwise, 1994 and 2008 for obvious reasons.

[CaptHaddock91]

Was going to say 2007 or 2008. But 1999 would have been great too -

- McLaren's reliability woe
- Irvine's plucky underdog to WDC challenger story
- Schumacher's accident and comeback
- Frentzen's revival with Jordan
- the BAR/Villeneuve nightmares
- the European GP lottery
- the Suzuka finale - Irvine's qualifying crash, suspicions about how much Schumacher really wanted to beat Mika that weekend..
- Alex Zanardi's failed switch from the States

I could literally go on forever

 

Agreed, 1999 was really a crazy season and would be my pick too. Hill's retirement was also a noteworthy event that year.

 

I still have somewhere the '99 special Autosprint number with a summary of the whole season. Loots of material to go through!

[as65p]

None.

the one with no interesting content would be artificially pumped up, and the one with interesting content would get dumped down by not actually focusing on the interesting aspects of it.

100 percent this.

[TomNokoe]

What has always irked me about DTS is that Netflix's vast catalogue of sporting documentaries are all produced in a much more considered, enthusiast and critical manner.

However, one of the main reasons for this is that the other series I am referencing are often retrospective, rather than fly-on-the-wall. This brings me hope that one day somebody will do justice to the drama of 2007, 08, 10 or 12.

This is also a good chance to tell the unaware that Disney+ are producing a documentary series about Brawn GP's 2009 season, titled The One Pound Formula 1 Team.

Hopefully it's editorially closer to something like The Last Dance rather than Drive to Survive.

[Ross Stonefeld]

You mean meant to burnish the subject's image? 

[ARTGP]

This is also a good chance to tell the unaware that Disney+ are producing a documentary series about Brawn GP's 2009 season, titled The One Pound Formula 1 Team.

Hopefully it's editorially closer to something like The Last Dance rather than Drive to Survive.

With a name like that….

[Atreiu]

2006.

 

Schumi trying to leave on top, Alonso as a legitimate successor. J damper contraversy. Montoya calling quits. Hamilton in the background in GP2 paving his way to F1. Silly season sorting itself out with Kimi and Alonso moving teams. Button's first win. Schumacher's out of the god damn nowhere Suzuka DNF. Imola. Shanghai. Hungaroring. Schumi's qualifying antics at Monaco.

 

There was a lot which would have made nice TV material.

Edited by Atreiu, 05 October 2022 - 16:34.

[FirstnameLastname]

The cheaty Schumacher ones

[Izzyeviel]

The entire 80's.

 

You could actually do a 'The Crown' type tv series for F1 centred around Sir Frank, Sir Ron, & Sir Max.

[Alan Lewis]

1976. Nothing else comes close.

Thankfully, Netflix was nothing more than dystopian science fiction back then. Real life is always better than TV.

[Risil]

1976. Nothing else comes close.

Thankfully, Netflix was nothing more than dystopian science fiction back then. Real life is always better than TV.

 

I remember being spellbound by this documentary when the BBC made it in 1996:

 

[Anderis]

My first thought was 2007. How could a season get any more dramatic than that all things considered.

[Sterzo]

I remember being spellbound by this documentary when the BBC made it in 1996:

 

Never in the history of mankind has a season been so dreary and miserable to watch, and so celebrated for its drama in hindsight, as 1976. Good candidate for Netflix (whatever that is).

Edited by Sterzo, 06 October 2022 - 10:11.

[Collombin]

Never in the history of mankind has a season been so dreary and miserable to watch, and so celebrated for its drama in hindsight, as 1976. Good candidate for Netflix (whatever that is).

The trouble with 1976 is that it's been done to death in recent years by documentaries and of course Rush, for which the review in my TV guide this week tells me "F1 has never been short of rivalries, but the antagonism between British ace James Hunt and Austrian Niki Lauda was perhaps the most fierce". Hmmm.

Mind you, Nigel Roebuck even called the 1982 races wearisome at the time.

Edited by Collombin, 06 October 2022 - 10:24.

[Risil]

Never in the history of mankind has a season been so dreary and miserable to watch, and so celebrated for its drama in hindsight, as 1976. Good candidate for Netflix (whatever that is).

Oh this is an unpopular opinion I want to hear at length!

[Lennat]

I would pick 2007 for sure.

[pRy]

2016. Rosberg vs Hamilton had enough drama alone.

[Steve99]

Mind you, Nigel Roebuck even called the 1982 races wearisome at the time.

 

He was right, many of them were. I'd suggest '83 as an overlooked gem of a season. 

[SenorSjon]

1994.

 

 

But can you add sound and interviews from other years? You can create your own narrative and make 1992 look tense.

[Gareth]

Blimey, 6 years since protractors? Now I feel old …

[Alan Lewis]

Never in the history of mankind has a season been so dreary and miserable to watch, and so celebrated for its drama in hindsight, as 1976. Good candidate for Netflix (whatever that is).

We didn't watch it, though. At least in the UK, most races were not broadcast except as highlights, and not even that for several of them. Fuji was getting up early to listen to Simon Taylor and Barry Sheene on the radio.

The drama unfolded in the pages of Autosport each week, much as the Sherlock Holmes novels used to in the Strand magazine.

[Risil]

You can create your own narrative and make 1992 look tense.

That's kinda what Nigel Mansell did and it worked for him!

[aportinga]

The Series of Awkward Interviews With Ron Dennis, 1989.

 

Cannot think of a better season then 1989 and 1990 - which in of itself (1990) is not super-great but must be told alongside 1989.

 

1994 - Sennas death/Benetton launch system/Mansel/Adelaide

1995 - McLaren/Peugot/Mansell/Schumacher/Hill/Williams/Ferrari 412 T2

Edited by aportinga, 06 October 2022 - 15:10.

[PlatenGlass]

Never in the history of mankind has a season been so dreary and miserable to watch, and so celebrated for its drama in hindsight, as 1976. Good candidate for Netflix (whatever that is).

I suppose without the hindsight it was a fairly dominant season for Lauda until the accident. I don't think many people would have perceived a championship battle.

[Ferrim]

'94 Senna dying, Benetton vs Williams, Hill vs Schumacher. Accusations of cheating, pit fires, race bans, and of course Schumacher taking out Hill.

Going by actual DTS seasons, all of that would have featured in an episode. The actual season would have consisted of Herbert's Italian GP, Ferrari's win at Hockenheim, Alesi driving away to Avignon after retiring in the pits at Monza, the comeback of Mansell, McLaren and Peugeot falling out, and Barrichello starting from pole at Spa.

Which would still have made for a terrific season, of course...

[Sterzo]

Oh this is an unpopular opinion I want to hear at length!

 

 

We didn't watch it, though. At least in the UK, most races were not broadcast except as highlights, and not even that for several of them. Fuji was getting up early to listen to Simon Taylor and Barry Sheene on the radio.

The drama unfolded in the pages of Autosport each week, much as the Sherlock Holmes novels used to in the Strand magazine.

That's true about how we followed it, although I was at the British and German GPs. Left the first sickened by the shambles and crowd behaviour and not certain who had won, and left the second expecting to hear Lauda had died. Not my definition of fun.

[CSF]

1999 and 2000. Up down and round the corner seasons for different reasons. 

[William Hunt]

1989 &1986 & 1983 & 1981

Edited by William Hunt, 07 October 2022 - 03:03.