44 replies to this topic

[Niky]

I just read there will be a women racing in Le Mans. Her name is Milka Duno. She is from Venezuela... I was wondering if there was any other female racing driver at Le Mans in the past. Someone have any idea?

[Rob29]

Actually there are 3 women entered this year.Besides Milka,also Claudia Hurtgen & Vanina Ickx (Daughter of Jacky)
Many women have raced at Le Mans since 1930s.There is a website with all results.You should find a link on this forum.

[Martin Krejci]

In the past there were many women racing at Le Mans and at sportscar racing in general. In the middle of seventies there was so called "Coupes de Dammen" for ladies. I remember there raced Christine Beckers, Lella Lombardi, Dacremont, Marriane Hoepfner, Michele Mouton and many more. In the fifties similar cup for ladies was common at Tour de France and in other races. In USA sportcar racing after the 2WW there were race only for ladies, which raced usually with cars lent from regular drivers from main races.

[Carlos Jalife]

Marie Claude Beaumont who raced a Porsche with Claude Ballot- Lena and she was the leading french woman in the late sixties and early seventies. I think she was the first woman in 1968 or 1969 since the very early fifities and a special cup was awarded to her.

[Niky]

THANK YOU to all of you!!!

[Flicker]

1931 - Mme Sibos failed to finish...
1932 - Mme. Sibos with her male co-driver M.Sebipa was forth in Alfa 6C...

[Stefan Ornerdal]

Flicker,

are you sure her name is Sibos? The information I have says Mme Odette Siko. ?

[Ross Stonefeld]

Milka's been on a run lately. 99 with Skip Barber's school series, 00 with the Pro Series, and 01 withEndurance racing and I beleive some Formula Nissan


dont forget Lillian(Gillian?) Brynner?

[Flicker]

Stefan,

for sure, I'm not sure:confused:

but... when I'm brousing through Speedvision Online I found a little article http://www.speedvisi...000418cd61.html about 1932 24h LeMans race where have mentioned the name Sibos... then I looked results at http://www.maisonblanche.co.uk/ and found that there her name was written as Siko... nevertheless I write "Sibos" hoping that smb will correct me;)

... am i right?


Pic from speedvision's article...



overturned Stutz of Brisson

[Carlos Jalife]

Milka is from Venezuela and last year she did Barber Pro series in the US and the Women´s Global GT Cup with Panoz cars where she came in second and in her debut in the Adelaide ALMS race she came in thirs in the GTS class in a Viper. This year she is doing the Formula Nissan in Europe with Vergani Racing from Italy and she is team mate to tomas scheckter there. In the ALMS and Le Mans she will race one of the new Reynard Prototypes LMP 675 with Dick Barbour Racing along with some canadian John Graham (sorry, I don't know him). She also ran a Daytona in a Viper ansd she does the Por GT Cup in the Panoz Cars. She was Driver of the year in Venezzuela in 2000 andd she is as cute as intelligent, she has 5 master degres in marine related stuff since she is a naval engineer and designs tankers in her spare time. Really amazing. I hope I can put a picture of her soon. when i find out how.

[David McKinney]

Some early appearances:

1930
Odette Siko/Mme Mareuse (Bugatti 1.5)

1931
Odette Siko/Mme Mareuse (Bugatti 1.5)
Mrs Chetwynd (MG 750)

1932
Odette Siko (Alfa Romeo 6C-1750)

1933
Mme Desprez (Bugatti 5.0)
Odette Siko (Alfa Romeo 6C-1750)

1934
Miss Champney/Kaye Petre (Riley Imp)
Gwenda Stewart (Derby 1100)
Anne-Rose Itier (MG Midget)

1935
Elsie Wisdom/Kaye Petre (Riley Sprite)
Gwenda Stewart (Derby 1100)
Anne-Rose Itier (Fiat 508S)
Joan Richmond/Mrs Simpson (MG PA Midget)
Doreen Evans/Barbara Skinner (MG PA Midget)
Margaret Allan/Mrs Eaton (MG PA Midget)

1936
no race

1937
Anne-Rosier Itier (Adler 1.5)
Joan Richmond (Ford Ten)
Mme Largeot (Simca-Fiat)
Mrs Eccles (Singer)
Dorothy Stanley-Turner/Edith Riddell (MG)
Kaye Petre (Austin Seven)

1938
Mme Rouault/Mme Roux (Amilcar 2.5)
Mme Largeot (Simca-Fiat)
Miss Fawcett (Morgan 1100)
Anne-Rose Itier (MG Midget)
Elsie Wisdom (MG Midget)

1939
Anne-Rose Itier/Mme Largeot (Simca Huit)
E & OE

[Rob29]

Lillian Bryner (nee Keller)

[30ft penguin]

Milka ?!? That's a chocolate brand ...

http://www.milka.de

[Rob29]

Milch Schitte is now on sale in England under a different name! Kinder. They sponsored Mercedes Stermitz in Group C-Porsche 962 a few years back.

[Barry Lake]

I was hoping that, following on from David McKinney's excellent listing of 1930s women drivers at Le Mans, someone would have continued the story from there...

Here is a small part of the overall story, from an interview I did recently with Marie-Claude Beaumont (not her real surname, incidentally):

Beaumont drove with Henri Greder in highly modified Chevrolet Corvettes at Le Mans in 1971-72-73-74. The car retired in the first two events, but in 1973 they placed 12th outright and won their class. They won the class again in 1974, placing 18th outright.
In 1975 she drove with Italian lady Lella Lombardi in a Renault Alpine A441 at Le Mans, but the car failed in the 8th hour. In 1976 Beaumont shared a Kremer Porsche 934 with star drivers Didier Pironi and Bob Wollek, finishing 19th outright.

[Barry Lake]

While looking at the 1984 Le Mans Yearbook I noted a photo of Margie Smith-Haas, with the caption, "Last year there were two women competitors, but this year there was only one at the start. Its pretty Margie Smith-Haas from California..."

She was at the wheel of a Porsche 930 Turbo.

[David McKinney]

As no-one else seems to want to take the trouble, here are some more:

1949
Mlle Elder (Simca Huit)

1950
Yvette Simon (Ferrari 166)
Mme Rouault/Mme Gordine (Simca Huit)

1951
Yvette Simon/Betty Haig (Ferrari 215)

then apparently no-one until:
1971
Marie-Claude Beaumont (Chevrolet Corvette)

1972
Marie-Claude Beaumont (Chevrolet Corvette)

1973
Christine Beckers (Chevron B21/23)
Marie-Claude Beaumont (Chevrolet Corvette)

1974
Christine Beckers/Mlle Fontaine/Mlle Laurent (Chevron B23)
Mlle Verney/Mlle Renier (Porsche RSR)
Marie-Claude Beaumont (Chevrolet Corvette)

1975
Lella Lombardi/Marie-Claude Beaumont (Alpine A441)
Mlle Dacremont/Michelle Mouton/Marianne Hoepfner (Moynet-Chrysler)
Mlle Verney/Mlle Fontaine/Mme Tarnaud ((Porsche RS)

1976
Christine Beckers (Inaltera-Cosworth)
Mlle Verney (Porsche 934/935T)
Marie-Claude Beaumont (Porsche 934T)
Mlle Renier (Porsche RSR)
Lella Lombardi/Mlle Dacremont (Lancia Stratos)

1977
Lella Lombardi/Christine Beckers (Inaltera-Cosworth)
Mlle Cambiaghi (Osella-BMW PA5)
Mlle Verney (Porsche RSR)
Mlle Dacremont/Marianne Hoepfner (Lancia Stratos)
And that’s as far as I’m prepared to go....
E & OE

[Rob29]

Missing Christian names:
Charlotte Verney (F)
Anna Cambiaghi (I)
Yvette Fontaine (B)

[Martin Krejci]

Here is full export from my database. (If any woman from Le Mans is missing here, please, let me know. That would mean that I didn't know or forget to mark such driver as a woman.)

1925 - NS - Victor Bruce (A.C.)
1928 - KL9 - Bill Urquhart Dykes (Alvis TA)
1929 - AB - Bill Urquhart Dykes (Alvis)
1930 - KL3 - Hugh Eaton (Talbot GB 90)
1930 - KL7 - Mme Mareuse (Bugatti T40)
1930 - KL7 - Odette Siko (Bugatti T40)
1931 - DQ - Mme Mareuse (Bugatti 40)
1931 - DQ - Odette Siko (Bugatti 40)
1931 - AB - Hon. Mrs Chetwynd (MG Midget C)
1932 - KL4 - Odette Siko (Alfa Romeo 6C 1750)
1933 - AB - Odette Siko (Alfa Romeo 6C 1750)
1933 - AB - Marie Desprez (Bugatti)
1934 - KL13 - Mrs. Kaye Petre (Riley Ulster Imp)
1934 - KL13 - Miss D. Campney (Riley Ulster Imp)
1934 - KL17 - Mme Anne Itier (MG Midget PA)
1934 - AB - Mrs Gwenda Stewart (Derby)
1935 - KL24 - Mrs Gordon Simpson (MG Midgett PA)
1935 - AB - Mrs Gwenda Stewart (Derby)
1935 - KL26 - Miss Allan (MG Midgett PA)
1935 - KL24 - Joan Richmond (MG Midgett PA)
1935 - KL26 - Hugh Eaton (MG Midgett PA)
1935 - KL18 - Mme Anne Itier (Fiat Balilla 508 Sport)
1935 - AB - Mrs. Kaye Petre (Riley Racing)
1935 - KL25 - Miss Doreen Evans (MG Midgett PA)
1935 - KL25 - Miss Skinner (MG Midgett PA)
1937 - KL16 - Miss Joan Riddell (MG Midget PB)
1937 - KL14 - Joan Richmond (Ford Ten GB)
1937 - AB - Mrs. Roy Eccles (Singer Nine)
1937 - AB - Fernande Roux (Chenard & Walcker)
1937 - KL16 - Miss Dorothy Stanley-Turner (MG Midget PB)
1937 - AB - Mme Anne Itier (Adler Trumpf)
1937 - KL12 - Mme Largeot (Simca - Fiat)
1937 - AB - Mrs. Kaye Petre (Austin Seven 'Grasshopper')
1937 - AB - Mme Largeot (Simca - Fiat Ballila)
1938 - KL13 - Miss P. M. Fawcett (Morgan 4/4 Covetry Climax)
1938 - KL12 - Mme Anne Itier (MG Midget PA 'Special')
1938 - AB - Fernande Roux (Amilcar 'Pegase Special')
1938 - AB - Mme Rouvault (Amilcar 'Pegase Special')
1938 - AB - Mme Largeot (Simca - Fiat)
1939 - AB - Mme Largeot (Simca Huit - Fiat)
1939 - AB - Mme Anne Itier (Simca Huit - Fiat)
1949 - KL6 - Mrs. Hay (Rolls-Bentley Corniche 1939)
1949 - AB - Viviane Elder (Simca)
1950 - AB - Régine Gordine (Simca)
1950 - AB - Sacha Gordine (Simca Gordini)
1950 - AB - Yvonne Simon (Ferrari 166MM Coupé)
1950 - AB - Mme Rouvault (Simca Gordini)
1951 - KL15 - Betty Haig (Ferrari 166MM Berlinetta)
1951 - KL15 - Yvonne Simon (Ferrari 166MM Berlinetta)
1954 - AB - Gilberte Thirion (Gordini T17S)
1959 - KL3 - Sue Ransom (Ferrari 250 GT LWB Berlinetta)
1959 - P - Isabelle Haskell (Osca S750)
1971 - AB - "Marie-Claude" "Beaumont" (Chevrolet Corvette)
1972 - AB - Christine Beckers (Chevrolet Corvette)
1972 - AB - "Marie-Claude" "Beaumont" (Chevrolet Corvette)
1973 - AB - Christine Beckers (Chevron B21/23 Ford)
1973 - KL12 - "Marie-Claude" "Beaumont" (Chevrolet Corvette)
1974 - KL17 - Christine Beckers (Chevron B23 Ford)
1974 - KL18 - "Marie-Claude" "Beaumont" (Chevrolet Corvette)
1974 - KL17 - Yvette Fontaine (Chevron B23 Ford)
1974 - KL13 - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche Carrera RS)
1975 - KL21 - Michele Mounton (Moynet LM75 JRD)
1975 - KL21 - Marianne Hoepfner (Moynet LM75 JRD)
1975 - KL21 - Christine Dacremont (Moynet LM75 JRD)
1975 - KL21 - Claudina Trautmann (Moynet LM75 JRD)
1975 - KL11 - Yvette Fontaine (Porsche Carrera RS)
1975 - AB - Lella Lombardi (Alpine Renault A441C)
1975 - KL11 - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche Carrera RS)
1975 - AB - "Marie-Claude" "Beaumont" (Alpine Renault A441C)
1975 - KL11 - Corinne Tarnaud (Porsche Carrera RS)
1976 - KL9 - Lella Lombardi (Porsche Carrera RSR)
1976 - KL20 - Lella Lombardi (Lancia Stratos Turbo)
1976 - KL20 - Christine Dacremont (Lancia Stratos Turbo)
1976 - KL19 - "Marie-Claude" "Beaumont" (Porsche 934)
1976 - KL11 - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche 934/5 Turbo)
1976 - KL21 - Christine Beckers (Inaltera Ford)
1976 - T - Christine Beckers (Inaltera Ford)
1977 - KL18 - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche Carrera RSR)
1977 - KL11 - Lella Lombardi (Inaltera LM-77 Ford)
1977 - KL11 - Christine Beckers (Inaltera LM-77 Ford)
1977 - AB - Christine Dacremont (Lancia Stratos Turbo)
1977 - P - Anna Cambiaghi (Osella PA5 BMW)
1977 - P - Anna Cambiaghi (Lancia Stratos)
1977 - KL9 - Anny-Charlotte Verney (BMW 320i)
1977 - AB - Marianne Hoepfner (Lancia Stratos Turbo)
1977 - AB - Anna Cambiaghi (Osella PA5 BMW)
1978 - NQ - Anna Cambiaghi (Lola T296 ROC)
1978 - KL12 - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche Carrera RSR)
1978 - AB - Christine Dacremont (WM P76 Peugeot)
1978 - AB - Marianne Hoepfner (WM P76 Peugeot)
1978 - AB - Juliette Slaughter (Lola T294S Ford)
1979 - P - Divina Galica (IBEC P5 LM Ford)
1979 - KL19 - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche 934)
1980 - AB - Marianne Hoepfner (Porsche 934)
1980 - KL7 - Desiré Wilson (De Cadenet Lola LM Ford)
1980 - AB - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche 935 K3/80)
1980 - AB - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche 935 K3/80)
1980 - AB - Lella Lombardi (Osella PA8 BMW)
1981 - KL6 - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche 935 K3)
1982 - KL11 - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche 935 K3)
1982 - AB - Desiré Wilson (Grid Plaza S1 Ford)
1983 - KL7 - Desiré Wilson (Porsche 956)
1983 - AB - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Rondeau M379C Ford)
1983 - P - Anny-Charlotte Verney (Porsche 930)
1984 - AB - Margie Smith-Haas (Porsche 930)
1985 - AB - Margie Smith-Haas (URD C83 BMW)
1986 - AB - Cathy Muller (Porsche 962C)
1986 - AB - Cathy Muller (Porsche 956)
1989 - AB - Lyn St. James (Spice SE89C Ford)
1990 - NQ - Anne Baverey (Argo JM19C Ford)
1991 - AB - Tomiko Yoshikawa (Spice SE90C Ford)
1991 - AB - Desiré Wilson (Spice SE90C Ford)
1991 - NQ - Mercedes Stermitz (Porsche 962C)
1991 - AB - Cathy Muller (Spice SE90C Ford)
1991 - AB - Lyn St. James (Spice SE90C Ford)
1992 - NC - Tomiko Yoshikawa (Spice SE89C Ford)
1992 - NC - Kenta Shimamura (Spice SE89C Ford)
1993 - AB - Lilian Bryner (Porsche Carrera 2 Cup)
1993 - AB - Tomiko Yoshikawa (Courage C30LM Porsche)
1994 - KL9 - Lilian Bryner (Porsche Carrera RSR)
1994 - NC - Tomiko Yoshikawa (Porsche 962 GTi)
1995 - AB - Lilian Bryner (Porsche 911 GT2)
1995 - AB - Tomiko Yoshikawa (SARD MC8-R Toyota)
1996 - NS - Lilian Bryner (Porsche 911 GT2)
1997 - PQ - Cathy Muller (Sard MC8-R)
1997 - AB - Lilian Bryner (Porsche 911 GT2)
1998 - P - Lilian Bryner (Ferrari 333SP 98)

[Barry Lake]

Martin (and David, of course)

Thank you for sharing this information with us. It beats the hell out of going through all the books if we ever want to know the answer some day.

The only thing I noticed, on glancing quickly through it is that "Marie-Claude" "Beaumont" should be
Marie-Claude "Beaumont"

Only the surname is a pseudonym.

Barry Lake

[Bernd]

Back to Milka she is a fine looking women for her age, myself and our dearly departed Ray had a good perve on her at Adelaide as she jumped from the Viper all hot and sweaty. Then we ran into her Hubbie and Kid

Great Stuff

Are there any other 'lookers' in Motorsport at the moment I can't think of one.

[David McKinney]

Martin:
Thanks for doing more thoroughly what I attempted.
However, although there was a Mrs Victor Bruce, a Mrs Urquhart-Dyke and a Mrs Eaton, there were also 'Misters', and I am fairly sure the first four names on your list are the male variants. Likewise Sacha Gordine.

[Martin Krejci]

Barry:
You are right. She ("Beaumont") is Marie-Claude Charmasson and she was a woman of Henri Greder. However it was slightly modified export from my database which cannot use Marie-Claude "Beaumont". So I could call her Marie-Claude 'Beaumont' but I prefered what I used. Sometimes pseudonyms aren't in "" at all. For example JJ Lehto or Johnny Dumfries.

David:
Thank you for your comments. Here is what I have and please, correct it if you can:

Victor Bruce: I do have Mrs. Victor Bruce at 2x12 hours Brooklands 1930. It was definitely a woman here driving "her silver eagle Alvis".
At Le Mans 1925 it was V. A. Bruce which I assumed was the same driver. Victor Bruce drove also AC at Brooklands in May 7th, 1927. I also think that in Coupe Georges Bouillot 1925 driver Victor with AC was Mrs. Victor Bruce too (= woman).

Mrs Urquhart-Dyke: (I have Dykes.) I am again not sure. Going through my records, I have several entries of William (Bill) Urquhart-Dykes with Alvis and only one entry of Mme Dykes in Coupe Georges Bouillot 1928 without knowing her first name. As she drove there also Alvis, I pressumed she is the same W. Urquhart-Dykes in other races (mostly Le Mans and Tourist Trophy).

Mrs. Hugh Eaton: I have her at Le Mans 1935. At Le Mans 1930 with Talbot only Hugh Eaton. Other two entries in 1930 with Talbot I do have for H. S. Eaton. I am not sure if the lady driver from 1935 is the same as in 1930.

Sacha Gordine: I cannot find now any reference this driver is really a woman. There was woman Regine Gordine in the same era driving also Simca Gordini and maybe it was just my mistake to sign Sacha Gordine as a woman.

I would be happy for additional comments and corrections.

[Martin Krejci]

Barry:
Now I noticed what you probably meant. "Marie-Claude Beaumont" is my usual export from database but to make things easier for me I used only "Marie-Claude"+"Beaumont" - just joining fields first name and surname instead of my usual function that returns "Marie-Claude Beaumont" . Sorry for that little fault.

[David McKinney]

I can see the reason for at least part of the confusion, Martin. It’s to do with old-fashioned styles of address in English.
Take the example of Joe Bloggs and his wife Mary. Together, they would be addressed as Mr and Mrs Joe Bloggs. Under these rules, the correct form of address for Mary was: Mrs Joe Bloggs. Only after Joe died would she have been correct in calling herself Mrs Mary Bloggs. (Don’t ask! I didn’t make up the rules!)
Of course this has long since been disregarded, particularly since the fashion of replacing the term ‘Mrs’ (and Miss for unmarried ladies) by ‘Ms’.
But back then Hugh Eaton’s wife was Mrs Hugh Eaton, etc etc.
Eaton, Urquhart-Dykes and Bruce were all well-known drivers at Brooklands and elsewhere, and although Mrs U-D and Hon Mrs Victor Bruce raced quite a bit themselves, I don’t believe Mrs Eaton was a regular - though of course she might have been known under her maiden (pre-marriage) name.
Sacha Gordine was a famous (male) film producer who financed an ill-fated French GP car venture in the early ’50s, the car being called the Sacha-Gordine - presumably to avoid confusion with its contemporary, the Gordini.

[Barry Lake]

I had a look at "Nine Lives Plus" the autobiography of The Hon Mrs Victor Bruce. She did not race at Le Mans.

The only time she mentions having gone to Le Mans was in 1929. Earlier that month she had driven a 4.5 litre Bentley at Montlhery to set a single-handed 24 hour record.

The same car was part of the team at Le Mans, regarding Mrs Bruce's Montlhery effort as "running in" the engine. Bentley invited Mrs Bruce along as a guest for the Le Mans race.

It also appears (without reading the book cover to cover) that Mrs Bruce began competitive driving in the Monte Carlo Rally January 1927 for AC, arranged by S F Edge. Victor Bruce also drove for AC and it appears the two met through this association and married some time after 1927.

So I would suggest there was no Mrs Victor Bruce racing at Le Mans in 1925.

[Martin Krejci]

David & Barry:
Thank you for explaining these things. I should be more careful about it in the future.
I found another wrong entry in my previous list of woman. At Le Mans 1938 there raced Mme Fernande Roux that raced at GP de la Marne 1936. But at Le Mans 1937 I do had only Roux. After checking other sources this appears to be Charles Roux, so not the
woman.

I hope all other pre-war LM-woman-drivers are OK.

I also forget to explain some abbreviations in the list:

results KL4 means classified 4th
AB = DNF
NQ, NC, NS = as usual
T = practiced, DNS
P = did not arrive, only in entry list

That means for example that Isabelle Haskell in 1959 was only listed on entry list but didn't race at Le Mans.

Do you find any other errors or missing ladies in the list?

[Rob29]

Just to complete Martin excellent list:

1999
Claudia Hurtgen-Porsche 993-20th

2000-NIL

[Martin Krejci]

Rob29:

Thanks. For some unknown reason Claudia Hürtgen is missing in my list of woman drivers.

1997 - 13th Claudia Hürtgen (Porsche 911 GT2)
1998 - 17th Claudia Hürtgen (Porsche 911 GT2)
1999 - 20th Claudia Hürtgen (Porsche 993 GT2) = 911 GT2
2000 - DNA Claudia Hürtgen (Porsche 911 GT2)

[Marc Ceulemans]

Gilberte Thirion was entered at Le Mans in 1954, but was not accepted (I think it was just because she was a woman). She was replaced by his father Max Thirion, a Belgian amateur driver in the 30's (with Bugatti mainly).

[frogeye59]

Originally posted by Martin Krejci
1959 - KL3 - Sue Ransom (Ferrari 250 GT LWB Berlinetta)

Can anyone expand on Sue Ransom please, racing career, nationality etc.

I dont recall having come across her in the many racing books I have read relating to her era.

Presumably the 250 LWB was a private entry.

Also 3rd at Le Mans is pretty impressive, is this the highest finish for a woman in the race ???

Cheers

David

[Rob29]

Originally posted by frogeye59


Can anyone expand on Sue Ransom please, racing career, nationality etc.

I dont recall having come across her in the many racing books I have read relating to her era.

Presumably the 250 LWB was a private entry.

Also 3rd at Le Mans is pretty impressive, is this the highest finish for a woman in the race ???

Cheers

David

I think that is a class win?
Sue Ransom was an Australian lady last raced in 1980 Is on a list of 'Bathurst ladies'

[frogeye59]

Thanks Rob, you think the third is 3rd in class ??

[Rob29]

Originally posted by frogeye59
Thanks Rob, you think the third is 3rd in class ??

This one has me baffled. A Ferrari GTO did finnish 3rd overall at Le Mans in 1959,but on database I have link to http://www.teamdan.c...9/59lemans.html no mention of a Sue Ransom anywhere on the entry list

[KJJ]

Motor's preview of the 1959 race has Ransom and "Beurlys" as the drivers of the Number 11 car. Of course in the event the pilots were "Beurlys" and Dernier. Still this does show a connection between the car and someone called Ransom, but is that Sue Ransom?

I think in the dim and distant past someone might have guessed at the forenames of some of these women and then the misinformation just gets copied on. Joan Riddell for example should be Enid Riddell and some sites still have Marjorie Fawcett when it should be Prudence Fawcett.

[frogeye59]

The assertion Sue Ransom came third at Le Mans in '59 is spurious then it would appear.

[Rainer Nyberg]

In my database Sue RANSOM is Australian, aged 58.
This would translate to a birth year of 1948. That would rule out any 1959 Le Mans entry...

I have listed her a Group C driver, during the 1980s, when she were in her late 30s, or early 40s.

[Rob29]

Originally posted by frogeye59
The assertion Sue Ransom came third at Le Mans in '59 is spurious then it would appear.

That would appear to be the case.We need Martin for an explanation.
Re;Sue Ransom;quote from 'Women in Motorsport' by Susan TP-Jamieson.
"Sue began her motorsport career rallying but,after switching to circuit racing became one of Australia's most successful and outstanding women drivers of the 70s.In the 80s when the sponsorship money had dried up this versatile driver uprooted and moved to the USA to carve out a successful seven-year career in drag racing."
Would seem unlikely she was racing in 59?
Thanks Rainer-her age was what I did not have.

[joe twyman]

Liz Halliday, drives for Intersport Lola and has competed in the event the last few years!....

[frogeye59]

Originally posted by Rob29
That would appear to be the case.We need Martin for an explanation.
Re;Sue Ransom;quote from 'Women in Motorsport' by Susan TP-Jamieson.
"Sue began her motorsport career rallying but,after switching to circuit racing became one of Australia's most successful and outstanding women drivers of the 70s.In the 80s when the sponsorship money had dried up this versatile driver uprooted and moved to the USA to carve out a successful seven-year career in drag racing."
Would seem unlikely she was racing in 59?
Thanks Rainer-her age was what I did not have.

So that clears that up nicely, who I wonder is the highest finishing woman at Le Mans then ????

[Haine Kane]

I read this thread and I want to make a christian name face to face to these women drivers :

Marguerite MAREUSE
Marie DESPREZ
Dorothy CHAMPNEY
Eva GORDON SIMPSON
Collen EATON
Suzanne LARGEOT
Germaine ROUAULT
Fernande ROUX
Marjorie Prudence Mary Blake FAWCETT
Viviane ELDER
Régine GORDINE (wife of Sacha GORDINE)
Anny-Charlotte VERNEY
Christine DACREMONT
Martine RENIER
Anna CAMBIAGHI

[Rob29]

Originally posted by frogeye59


So that clears that up nicely, who I wonder is the highest finishing woman at Le Mans then ????

Looks like Odette Siko 4th in 1932. From the modern era;
Anny Charlotte Verney-6th (2nd class)1981
Desire Wilson-7th(1st class) 1982

[KJJ]

Originally posted by Haine Kane
I read this thread and I want to make a christian name face to face to these women drivers :

Marjorie Prudence Mary Blake FAWCETT

Haine - what basis is there for calling her Marjorie? As far as I can see her name was Prudence Mary Blake Fawcett, nothing more.

[Kpy]

Originally posted by KJJ


Haine - what basis is there for calling her Marjorie? As far as I can see her name was Prudence Mary Blake Fawcett, nothing more.

Probably because the ACO records for the 1938 race show car number 40 - Morgan 4/4 - Coventry Climax - as finishing 13th, with drivers Miss Marjorie Fawcett, and Geoffrey White, and entrant Miss P.M. Fawcett.

[KJJ]

Interesting, are there many other such errors in the ACO records?