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Ricciardo returns to Red Bull in 2023 as a reserve driver


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#1 Heyli

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 12:49

https://www.gpblog.c...l-for-2023.html

 

Helmut Marko has confirmed to Sky Sports Germany that Daniel Ricciardo will become the third driver at Red Bull next year. The Australian will thus return to the Red Bull Racing team after four years.

 

Good news for both Red Bull and Ricciardo I think! Hope he finds a way back to his form and then to the grid. 



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#2 FullOppositeLock

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 12:50

Wow. I didn't expect either side to seriously want to do anything with each other again. Seems like a marriage of convenience at best.


Edited by FullOppositeLock, 18 November 2022 - 12:52.


#3 Beamer

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 12:51

I'll bet you he'll do a few FP1's next year and race at least once in the first 10 races......



#4 sheSgoTthElooK

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 12:52

Hell of a news! 

 

I'd say we see him back as RBR driver next to MV. 



#5 Roadhouse

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 12:53

He'll probably do more advertisement than driving. But nonetheless I hope he'll get into the groove again so he can secure a seat for 2024.



#6 Burtros

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 12:53

Sergio looking over his shoulder!

#7 ConsiderAndGo

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 12:54

Meh. He’s not even reserve driver.

He’ll do demo runs and that’s about it.

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 12:55

I'll bet you he'll do a few FP1's next year and race at least once in the first 10 races......

If he gets to do just one drive in FP1 it's over for Perez (unless the latter is ill, injured or otherwise not able to participate). And Liam Lawson is reserve driver by the way.



#9 Secretariat

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 12:57

Phase 2 of Operation Aussie Phoenix, complete. :lol:



#10 pdac

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 12:58

It's all just a scare tactic to keep Sergio in check (behave or we can easily replace you)



#11 A3

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:01

Wow. I didn't expect either side to seriously want to do anything with each other again. Seems like a marriage of convenience at best.

 
I'm going to quote from an article posted in another topic because the bolded part is simply so true for all of us.
 

When the intensity of the cockpit meets the outside world in the era where social media makes the uninformed not realise it’s uninformed and that because it’s seen something believes it understands it, this is the fall-out.

https://www.motorspo...dia-critics-mph

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:04

If he gets to do just one drive in FP1 it's over for Perez (unless the latter is ill, injured or otherwise not able to participate). And Liam Lawson is reserve driver by the way.

 

Marko says Ric will be the 3rd driver. What's the difference with the reserve driver? Are they going to enter 3 cars or is this something lost in translation?  :drunk:



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:07

Marko says Ric will be the 3rd driver. What's the difference with the reserve driver? Are they going to enter 3 cars or is this something lost in translation?  :drunk:

Don't know, with Marko you never know, but the Autosport article reported this.

But Marko said in the same interview that Liam Lawson, who has raced in Formula 2 for the past two seasons, would fulfil the reserve role across Red Bull and AlphaTauri next year.


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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:09

This reminds me of how the producers of the Top Gear Specials would remind the lads that if their vehicle failed, there was an alternative they could just bring in, as motivation to not let that happen.



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:12

Supposedly Ricciardo didn’t want to be a reserve as it would mean being at each GP.

So this maybe ideal for him.

Lawson remains official reserve for short notice call ups, but if they know in advance they can skip Lawson and call up Danny. Sure Lotus did it years ago with Kovalinen, I can’t remember who the official reserve who missed out was… Valsecchi maybe?

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:13

No.2 (B) driver when 2 (A) has upset the No.1

#17 Touchdown

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:35

Clever move for Daniel - all is clearly not rosy between Checo and Max and that puts Checo's seat at serious risk if it continues.

 

In addition, if Mercedes are as competitive as Red Bull next season, I think the constructors championship becomes a much tougher ask with Checo in that seat.

 

Daniel taking that seat for 2024 is a very real possibility.



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:36

If he gets to do just one drive in FP1 it's over for Perez (unless the latter is ill, injured or otherwise not able to participate). And Liam Lawson is reserve driver by the way.

 


Not if he drives like he has the last 2 years.

#19 JL14

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:45

Better fix the title, because he'll be 3rd driver, doing the promo stuff.

Liam Lawson will be reserve driver of Red Bull and Alfa Tauri. 



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:56

Sergio looking over his shoulder!


Checo is thinking about retirement at the end of his contract - something about not enjoying the ever expanding calendar.

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 13:56

This reminds me of how the producers of the Top Gear Specials would remind the lads that if their vehicle failed, there was an alternative they could just bring in, as motivation to not let that happen.


Nice one! After all those years, it is so cool, you still haven't forgotten that. For me it was always funny specially the driver (with his smug face) driving the backup car at the back to make sure to annoy them.

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 14:00

Checo is thinking about retirement at the end of his contract - something about not enjoying the ever expanding calendar.

Oh? Did he say that before or after Monaco?

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 14:22

So then we are truely seeing Ricciardo's last race on Sunday.

 

At least he will get to do some parade laps at events as a Red Bull race winner in a Red Bull, so to him that may be a nice swan song.



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 14:24

This reminds me of how the producers of the Top Gear Specials would remind the lads that if their vehicle failed, there was an alternative they could just bring in, as motivation to not let that happen.


Daniel Ricciardo is a Volkswagen Beetle. Wow, I think I would prefer to retire in dignity.

#25 NoForumForOldPole

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 14:24

I think he will be on circus driver duty - entertaining fans in demo runs, and amusing them with his lack of general knowledge :) He might even wear red sponge nose during those. Good driver choice by Red Bull, actually.  


Edited by NoForumForOldPole, 18 November 2022 - 14:25.


#26 cjm321190

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 14:35

Maybe of he stacks up great against Perez he may end up driving in 2023

#27 William Hunt

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 14:38

Serious step down for Ricciardo. He should have gone to IndyCar instead. Ending up 3rd driver in the team he left to become lead driver elsewhere feels rather humiliating



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 14:41

Serious step down for Ricciardo. He should have gone to IndyCar instead. Ending up 3rd driver in the team he left to become lead driver elsewhere feels rather humiliating

 

I think he had a choice of going where he wanted. 

His choice was to do this.

 

Feels good to know that he is going to do what he wanted.



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 14:44

Serious step down for Ricciardo. He should have gone to IndyCar instead. Ending up 3rd driver in the team he left to become lead driver elsewhere feels rather humiliating

 

 

I don't think so, he comes across as a PR person now rather than a serious racing driver, this is the perfect move for him, next step is probably as commentator or analyst for one of the networks? 



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 15:14

I don't think so, he comes across as a PR person now rather than a serious racing driver, this is the perfect move for him, next step is probably as commentator or analyst for one of the networks? 

 

I could see how Seb might be a good PR person for them also, once he retires. He might not want the work though. For Daniel, he might as well have a well paid role for as long as he can. I can't see Red Bull bringing in a rising star without giving them the Alpha Tauri experience first, so the ball "could come loose at the back of the scrum", as someone used to say. Sergio is not untouchable. I wonder how easily they could check whether Daniel's McLaren foibles would carry over to the Red Bull?



#31 Beri

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 15:25

Welcome home Danny!

#32 Rediscoveryx

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 15:38

Imagine traveling forward in time from 2017 and finding out that Red Bull will be lining up with Perez as a regular driver and Ricciardo as a reserve in 2023.

Edited by Rediscoveryx, 18 November 2022 - 15:38.


#33 Maustinsj

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 16:21

All the best to him  :up:



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 16:24

I'll bet you he'll do a few FP1's next year and race at least once in the first 10 races......

 

Monaco?



#35 Anuity

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 16:32

“Start being them”.

 

strange move by Ric, but apparently he has settled in being a second/third driver.



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 16:40

I think he had a choice of going where he wanted. 

His choice was to do this.

 

Feels good to know that he is going to do what he wanted.

translation - not doing anything as a 3rd driver



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 16:45

DR should never have left. Even though Max is the better driver, DR had opportunities for lots of wins there, and you never know, maybe a WDC... 



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 16:45

Seems to be a bit of back pedalling on this. Marko saying something lost in translation

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 16:54

Ric was argueably at his peak at RB - and got beaten by Verstappen and left in a huff.

 

To think he has a chance at a race seat now is fantasy surely - can anyone see anything other than a complete drubbing by Max if he did replace Perez ?

 

The guy has shot his bolt. This is just a slow-mo end of his career in F1.  Certainly at a top team.



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 17:57

Ric was argueably at his peak at RB - and got beaten by Verstappen and left in a huff.

 

To think he has a chance at a race seat now is fantasy surely - can anyone see anything other than a complete drubbing by Max if he did replace Perez ?

 

The guy has shot his bolt. This is just a slow-mo end of his career in F1.  Certainly at a top team.

Obviously I think Max would easily win out over a season but I'm actually willing to bet Ricciardo would be a lot closer over a season than Perez.

 

Obviously, this is presuming Daniel's struggles are McLaren dependent.



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 18:47

I guess everybody who thinks Perez is in danger of being replacved forgot--along with RBR--about how well Verstappen and Ricciardo got along on track. Not sure that's what the team wants, unless Ricciardo has agreed to be castrated for the chance to get in the car. And that's if they even think that he has any speed left, which is a serious question after two years of almost total mediocrity at McLaren.



#42 William Hunt

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 22:05

Imagine if Red Bull replaced Perez (who performs very well in that 2nd driver role) by Ricciardo and Ricciardo then would underperform in the same manner as he did at McLaren. That would be a situation Red Bull doesn't want to be in. Can't see that scenario happening.


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Posted 18 November 2022 - 22:20

Obviously I think Max would easily win out over a season but I'm actually willing to bet Ricciardo would be a lot closer over a season than Perez.

Obviously, this is presuming Daniel's struggles are McLaren dependent.


Yes, if McLaren dependent struggles I’d agree, however since all cars work quite differently now I have a feeling that’s not the case.

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Posted 18 November 2022 - 22:28

Seems to be a bit of back pedalling on this. Marko saying something lost in translation

 

Yep, to Servus he now says they are talks, nothing more



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 22:29

Meh. He’s not even reserve driver.

He’ll do demo runs and that’s about it.

 

Beats the hell out of playing cards. :rotfl:



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 22:31

This seemed like the smart play all along for him.

 

I suspect he will spend a year on the 'sidelines' while they validate if he is as fast as he previously was, and if thats the case he could replace Sergio.

 

He would be both an upgrade in all areas and that would result in the revival of the best thread in autosport history  :lol:


Edited by RPM40, 18 November 2022 - 22:32.


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Posted 18 November 2022 - 22:33

Imagine if Red Bull replaced Perez (who performs very well in that 2nd driver role) by Ricciardo and Ricciardo then would underperform in the same manner as he did at McLaren. That would be a situation Red Bull doesn't want to be in. Can't see that scenario happening.

 

Thankfully they'd have plenty of time to validate him. He will be doing a lot of sim work I'm sure. It seems like the perfect outcome for both parties, they can see if he still has it. 



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 22:41

Lol pressure on Perez right now.. Two drivers breathing down his neck.



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 22:45

Weird I think but maybe he needs the "time off" after what happened at McLaren. Sadly maybe we see a scenario where Danny is winning a race in a redbull before Lando wins one in the McLaren. Hope not but It cann happen.



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Posted 18 November 2022 - 23:11

This seemed like the smart play all along for him.

I suspect he will spend a year on the 'sidelines' while they validate if he is as fast as he previously was, and if thats the case he could replace Sergio.

He would be both an upgrade in all areas and that would result in the revival of the best thread in autosport history :lol:


God, it doesn’t bear thinking about, does it mate? :p