65 replies to this topic

[lustigson]

Ban weaving on straights. Ban blocking before corners. Mirrors no longer needed. Problem solved. 

[pdac]

How about mounting something on the halo, a bit like the virtual mirrors we see in simracing?

 

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the halo? The idea is that it will defect debris that might otherwise enter the cockpit and hit the driver. Anything mounted on the halo would have to be as tough as the halo, as it too could possibly be hit by any flying debris. I can't see anyone being able to make a screen that's as tough as the halo.

Edited by pdac, 30 November 2022 - 14:13.

[pdac]

London buses have begun using "virtual mirrors" so I guess it's considered safe for the transportation of passengers.

 

Might well need a lot of tweaks for F1 but maybe there's a place for it. 

 

I feel that the purpose and conditions in which they are used might differ slightly from F1.

[JL14]

Since the mirror issue lies for the biggest part in the blind spot, maybe just keep the mirrors and - as with modern cars - fit them with a light that lits up when there's a car detected in the blind spot?

Edited by JL14, 30 November 2022 - 14:44.

[IrvTheSwerve]

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the halo? The idea is that it will defect debris that might otherwise enter the cockpit and hit the driver. Anything mounted on the halo would have to be as tough as the halo, as it too could possibly be hit by any flying debris. I can't see anyone being able to make a screen that's as tough as the halo.

 

Not sure why a very small strip of a screen mounted on the driver's side of the halo would have to be as tough as the halo? If it got broken off in an impact it wouldn't be heavy enough to cause any issues. It could be deflected towards the driver's body I guess. Surprised we haven't had any mention of some kind of body protection in the car yet tbh, even though it's not so much of an issue.

 

I don't think any of this will happen anyway. Not for a while, anyway.

[PayasYouRace]

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the halo? The idea is that it will defect debris that might otherwise enter the cockpit and hit the driver. Anything mounted on the halo would have to be as tough as the halo, as it too could possibly be hit by any flying debris. I can't see anyone being able to make a screen that's as tough as the halo.

They already mount cameras to the halo. Putting a couple of screens on the inside of the frame wouldn’t detract from the structural strength the halo provides.

Your concern doesn’t really make sense.

[pdac]

They already mount cameras to the halo. Putting a couple of screens on the inside of the frame wouldn’t detract from the structural strength the halo provides.

Your concern doesn’t really make sense.

 

I was not concerned about the structural integrity of the halo but the thought of a piece of debris hitting the halo in such a way that. instead of just bouncing off, it hits the screen breaking it off of its mounting and shooting it at the driver.

Edited by pdac, 30 November 2022 - 18:53.

[GrumpyYoungMan]

Since the mirror issue lies for the biggest part in the blind spot, maybe just keep the mirrors and - as with modern cars - fit them with a light that lits up when there's a car detected in the blind spot?

And here in lines the problem, we are fast approaching people who can’t think for themselves and who can take responsibility for their own safety.

Edited by GrumpyYoungMan, 30 November 2022 - 19:26.

[WonderWoman61]

An interesting idea but putting it into practice, I'm not sure....

[BRG]

I feel that the purpose and conditions in which they are used might differ slightly from F1.

Yes, London city traffic is far more brutal and unpredictable than that on a race track.

 

Not sure why you are so hostile to this idea, which seems blindingly obvious to me (which might be why F1 will never do it)

[pdac]

Yes, London city traffic is far more brutal and unpredictable than that on a race track.

 

Not sure why you are so hostile to this idea, which seems blindingly obvious to me (which might be why F1 will never do it)

 

I'm not hostile at all. I just don't take things at face value. When someone says to me it's a no-brainer, I like to have all of my concerns addressed before I'll agree.

[Dmitriy_Guller]

And here in lines the problem, we are fast approaching people who can’t think for themselves and who can take responsibility for their own safety.

People who can think for themselves know that there is always much more to think about than you have bandwidth for, so any thinking that can be delegated frees up your mental capacity for other things that have previously been unaddressed altogether.

Edited by Dmitriy_Guller, 01 December 2022 - 14:16.

[RedRabbit]

How about mounting something on the halo, a bit like the virtual mirrors we see in simracing?

Those new screens on the McLarens that change sponsors might actually work for this idea.

They're incredibly thin and lightweight to not be an issue in an accident too.

[Huffer]

Just put horns on the cars that the driver can toot to let those in front know they're trying to pass them.  Problem solved. 

Edited by Huffer, 01 December 2022 - 15:25.

[pdac]

Just put horns on the cars that the driver can toot to let those in front know they're trying to pass them.  Problem solved. 

 

One's that play Dixie, of couse.

[Huffer]

One's that play Dixie, of couse.

 

I was more thinking of one of the old brass trumpet types with the rubber thing at the end that you press. Aerodynamics be dammed!