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[Ruudbackus]

Who has had 6 hat tricks in a season? I don't think there's anybody?

 

I'll add Schumacher for 5 though

Just rechecked, nobody has 6 schumacher has indeed 5 in 2004, Ascario 5 in 1952 and Max 5 this season

[renzmann]

The car looked wonderful in quali. I'm really looking forward to a season finale the RB19 deserves

Edited by renzmann, 25 November 2023 - 15:33.

[Yoshi]

What a lap from Max in Q3    especially after that FP3 in the afternoon, which was not straight forward. 

[Cliff]

 

[Yoshi]

 

Le sound   smooth lap.

Max was the only one with 2 fresh softs and he nailed it with his first run. 

Edited by Yoshi, 25 November 2023 - 21:08.

[Ruudbackus]

Wins in a season: Redbull has 21 This goes also for the Model of Car (RB19)

Win % in a season: Redbull has 95,45%;.

Consecutive Wins: 15 wins by Redbull

Consecutive wins from the start of the seaso: 14 Wins by redbull

Fastest laps in a year: Ferrari holds the record with 14; Redbull needs 4 more to match that record

Points in a Year: Mercedes held the record with 765, Redbull has 885 

Podiums in a year: Mercedes has the record with 33, Redbull needs 7 more to equal the record

Laps lead in  a year: Mercedes held the record with 1055, Redbull has 1147 now

Laps Lead %: The record is unatainable (McLaren 88 with 97.28%!!) Redbull took 2nd place, Mercedes had 86.24% in 2014, Redbull ended at 86.64%

Lead over 2nd in WCC: Record is 277 by Mercedes, Redbull ends ahead by 451 points 

Edited by Ruudbackus, 26 November 2023 - 15:25.

[renzmann]

Several new records in the last race! What a season...

 

- most consecutive wins: 10 (former record: 9, Vettel)
- most wins in a season: 19 (former record: 15, Verstappen)
- highest win percentage in a season: 86,36% (former record: 75%, Ascari)
- most wins from pole in a season: 12 (former record: 9, Mansell/Vettel)
- first driver to ever win a GP grand slam/all four classics in a single season (Monza, Monaco, Spa, Silverstone)
- first driver to ever win 3 GPs in the same country in a single season (USA: Miami, Austin, Las Vegas)
- most consecutive top 2 finishes: 15 (matched record: Schumacher)
- WDC with most GPs to go: 6 GPs and 2 sprints (formed record: 6 GPs, Schumacher)
- most hat-tricks in a season: 6 (former record: 5, Ascari, Schumacher)
- most consecutive races as a WDC leader: 39 (former record: 37, Schumacher)
- most points in a season: 575 (former record: 454, Verstappen)
- highest points percentage in a season: 575/620=92,74% (former record: 84,71%, Schumacher)
- most points between first and second: 290 (former record: Vettel, 155)
- highest percentage points difference between first and second in the WDC: 285/575-1=50,27% (former record: 56/108-1=48,15%, Mansell)
- first driver to lead 1000 laps in a single season (couldn't resist )
- most laps led in a season: 1003 (former record: 739, Vettel)
- highest percentage of laps led in a season: 1003/1325=75,70% (former record: 506/708=71,47%, Clark)
- most km led in a season: 4914 (former record: 3796, Vettel)
- highest percentage of km led in a season: 4914/6700=73,34% (former record: 2759/3829=72,06%, Clark)

- most GPs led in a season: 20 (former record: 19, Hamilton) thanks, Wolbo
- most podiums in a season: 21 (former record: 18, Verstappen)

Edited by renzmann, 26 November 2023 - 15:24.

[Ruudbackus]

Just amazing; and its hard to believe those records will be broken, even in a 24 race season. They have had no imperfections at all bar Singapore Qualifying. 

[Ruudbackus]

Verstappen has won as much races in a season (19) as the number 2 in the all time constructors ranking (2016 Mercedes with 19 wins)

[jonklug]

Best season ever by a driver, 19 wins, 10 in a row, current new streak of 7, more that double of Checo's points, Verstappen was on a mission.

The RB19 rightfully taking its place now as one of the greatest cars in history as well. Soak it in everyone!

[AlexPrime]

I feel very happy to have witnessed such performance.

Edited by AlexPrime, 27 November 2023 - 11:19.

[Heyli]

Havent checked if it's correct, but according to Wikipedia, Max in the last race also passed Lewis for highest average points per race (13.98 vs 13.97).

[MikeTekRacing]

Not sure if it was posted before.

The Max song https://youtu.be/TbO...kJYbwFblUPw871P

[Sparky68]

I would say I'm glad that's over but, just means we crack on with the RB20!!

[MikeTekRacing]

Make RB19 look awfully slow!

[Sparky68]

We will try 

[SenorSjon]

Another record

 

Max now has scored 1.004 points in an unbroken streak from Imola 2022 till AD 2023. He is now first on that list who previously was led by Hamilton with 998 points and ended at the 2020 Sakhir GP due to a positive covid test. Disregarding covid, he failed to score points at Baku 2021 to break his streak. 

[bibliophagos]

Another record

Max now has scored 1.004 points in an unbroken streak from Imola 2022 till AD 2023. He is now first on that list who previously was led by Hamilton with 998 points and ended at the 2020 Sakhir GP due to a positive covid test. Disregarding covid, he failed to score points at Baku 2021 to break his streak.

The streak that ended in Sakhir 2020 was 1008 points. Wikipedia is wrong.

[jonklug]

Why RB/Max fans should be very optimistic for the following 2 years (at least) is because even if other teams fully catch up in terms of outright performance (which probably will happen if not in 2024 then most likely in 2025), I think they actually would need to have a small edge on RB if they are to have a good chance at the WDC seeing as the RB&Max combo is such a well oiled ultra low mistake making machine. 

[oli4]

Best season ever by a driver, 19 wins, 10 in a row, current new streak of 7, more that double of Checo's points, Verstappen was on a mission.

The RB19 rightfully taking its place now as one of the greatest cars in history as well. Soak it in everyone!

 

Those are just numbers, yes they are spectacular numbers but numbers don't always tell the whole story. What's the most impressive for me is that Verstappen didn't put a foot wrong all season. And we had many wet races this year, long season, many opportunities to f* up. But he didn't. Even if he quits tomorrow, he'd still be the GOAT.

[jonklug]

I'd wait a few more years for GOAT statements, he's still so young and can go on and accomplish so much more. 

[Ruudbackus]

The streak that ended in Sakhir 2020 was 1008 points. Wikipedia is wrong.

Probably it will be done though in Bahrein next March.

[bibliophagos]

Probably it will be done though in Bahrein next March.

I wouldn't bet against that

[SenorSjon]

The streak that ended in Sakhir 2020 was 1008 points. Wikipedia is wrong.

 

Correct it then.

[bibliophagos]

Correct it then.

I thought about it, but couldn't bother

[WouterF1]

RBR had a great party yesterday in Dubai with a amazing drone show and delicious RB19 cake!

https://twitter.com/...222908512227824

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[WouterF1]

Verstappen poaches new personal trainer from Sainz

Red Bull has found a new personal trainer for Max Verstappen in Rupert Manwaring following the departure of Bradley Scanes.

Max Verstappen has poached Carlos Sainz's personal trainer Rupert Manwaring ahead of the 2024 Formula 1 season.

Manwaring has worked with Sainz since his F1 debut in 2015, but after eight seasons at the side of the Spaniard has elected to move to Red Bull to replace the departing Bradley Scanes.

Manwaring works with Hintsa Performance, the performance coaching company launched by the late Dr Aki Hinsta, who worked with Lewis Hamilton and Mika Hakkinen. He died in 2016 after battling cancer.

In a twist of fate, Verstappen's father Jos also worked with Manwaring's own father, also called Rupert. during his racing career.

 

 

[DW46]

Verstappen poaches new personal trainer from Sainz

Red Bull has found a new personal trainer for Max Verstappen in Rupert Manwaring following the departure of Bradley Scanes.

Max Verstappen has poached Carlos Sainz's personal trainer Rupert Manwaring ahead of the 2024 Formula 1 season.

Manwaring has worked with Sainz since his F1 debut in 2015, but after eight seasons at the side of the Spaniard has elected to move to Red Bull to replace the departing Bradley Scanes.

Manwaring works with Hintsa Performance, the performance coaching company launched by the late Dr Aki Hinsta, who worked with Lewis Hamilton and Mika Hakkinen. He died in 2016 after battling cancer.

In a twist of fate, Verstappen's father Jos also worked with Manwaring's own father, also called Rupert. during his racing career.

I often hear Sainz is the fittest driver on the grid, feels like a good move.

[Taxi]

Those are just numbers, yes they are spectacular numbers but numbers don't always tell the whole story. What's the most impressive for me is that Verstappen didn't put a foot wrong all season. And we had many wet races this year, long season, many opportunities to f* up. But he didn't. Even if he quits tomorrow, he'd still be the GOAT.

And also no gifted wins by team mates or other peoples misfortunes  like Villeneuve in 1997 ,  Schumacher in 2002, Hamilton in 2018, or Alonso in 2005/06

[JL14]

Apparently (acccording to the BBC's chequered flag podcast) Lambiase left the pitwall after Max's complaints at the Belgian GP.

 

Verstappen: "We should have just ******* pushed two laps in a row like I said."
Lambiase: "But you are through Max."
Verstappen: "I don't give a f*** mate if I'm through in P10. It's just s*** execution."
Lambiase: "OK and then when the track was two seconds quicker for your final lap and you didn't have any energy left, how would that have gone down? But you tell me what you want to do in Q3 and we will do it. Sets, fuel, run plan."

[Beamer]

Apparently (acccording to the BBC's chequered flag podcast) Lambiase left the pitwall after Max's complaints at the Belgian GP.

Verstappen: "We should have just ******* pushed two laps in a row like I said."
Lambiase: "But you are through Max."
Verstappen: "I don't give a f*** mate if I'm through in P10. It's just s*** execution."
Lambiase: "OK and then when the track was two seconds quicker for your final lap and you didn't have any energy left, how would that have gone down? But you tell me what you want to do in Q3 and we will do it. Sets, fuel, run plan."

Non story. Gp and max are notoriously close and brutally honest to each other. Just brit press stirring the pot

[JL14]

Non story. Gp and max are notoriously close and brutally honest to each other. Just brit press stirring the pot

 

Nobody said they had problems. It would just show their 'old married couple'-relationship regarding the biggering

[MikeTekRacing]

yeah Max can be an arse but GP does not come across of being a pushover either. I think they are fine, Max goes over the line and GP will "slap" him.

 

In Monza FP3 (?) GP was brutal. Max wanted to do another fast lap, GP advised against burning the tyres. Max did it anyway to get a feel for something (that's what he said).

After the lap:

GP: So Max, did you learn anything new on these tyres?

Max: not really

GP: Great job!

 

Loved it!

[Taxi]

Yeah GP sure does not get impressed with Max being a mega star. I say he's the only one who puts him in is place when he misbehaves. And that is good to Max because being so sucesseful can make  a person full of himself specially at young age. GP is the one who keeps his feet on the ground and Max respects that, I love their "antics" because sometimes GP "wins" (Belgium) sometimes Max "wins" (Spain). 

[WouterF1]

 

Horner: 'Red Bull's year was insane… and we started early on our 2024 car'

Chris Medland
November 29th 2023
Christian Horner says this year's Red Bull is the most successful car in F1 history, but tells Chris Medland in a Motor Sport exclusive that he can't dwell on the past.

There's a title to retain in 2024; an engine to build for 2026; but firstly, a pile of appraisals on his desk.

“The fact that we got to Singapore unbeaten, holy moly, it’s unbelievable.

“When you think back over, not just the last 10 months or 11 months, but if you think back over the last 24 months… Two years ago here in Abu Dhabi, we were fighting, going into the final round of the championship level on points.

What we’ve achieved since then, is mind boggling.”

It really does feel like a long time since that infamous night at the Yas Marina Circuit when Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen started the final race of the season locked together. It was one of the great seasons up to that point,

as Christian Horner’s Red Bull team brought an end to Mercedes’ dominance, and kicked off a period of its own.

Since then, there have been 44 grands prix held, and Red Bull has won 38 of them. Of the six times Red Bull has been beaten, four came in the first 11 races of 2022 as the team fought to get its extremely quick car down to a weight that would let it exploit the performance it had.

Or put more simply: 31 wins from the past 33 races.

 

The whole interview with Horner.

[MikeTekRacing]

I think there are not enough words to describe how tremendous the effort from the team was. Obviously this is not good for fans of other teams, we experienced this with the dream team Ferrari had and then Mercedes.

It's always MEGA impressive and getting all those things right to make it look easy is super hard. Hats off to all the folks on this.

[baddog]

I do think they have done a fantastic job.. but I also think the only team rivalling them in 2021 screwed the pooch utterly on the new regs and never found a way back which has exaggerated the gain.

[Heyli]

Simply lovely

 

[WouterF1]

Max and Checo arrived at Narita Airport today to attend the Honda Racing Thanks Day. Live stream:

 

 

Nojiri (SF) was watching when Iwasa tested the car today:

 

https://twitter.com/...880470026772599

 

As a reward for his two @SUPER_FORMULA titles  @tomoki_nojiri will be driving the Red Bull Racing Honda RB16B at #HondaRacingThanksDay

 

https://twitter.com/...805059808788723

Edited by WouterF1, 02 December 2023 - 17:19.

[WouterF1]

Today in Motegi the Honda Racing Thanks Day.

 

https://twitter.com/...148506965143858

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https://twitter.com/...145518095749553

 

 

[WouterF1]

Autosport Awards

 

Autosport

@autosport

 

Christian Horner wins this year's John Bolster award for his exceptional contribution to motorsport technology

#AutosportAwards

 

https://twitter.com/...453573022580885

 

 

Autosport

@autosport

 

 

This year's International Competition Car award winner is the all-conquering @RedBullRacing RB19

You can't really argue with 21 wins from 22 races...

 

https://twitter.com/...451103122788438

 

 

Autosport

@autosport

 

Congratulations to Max Verstappen who wins this year's International Racing driver of the Year award, presented by @Pirelli

Video:

"As a team we had an incredible season." A word from our 2023 #AutosportAwards International Racing Driver of the Year award winner, presented by @Pirelli

 

https://twitter.com/...413067156591032
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Edited by WouterF1, 04 December 2023 - 08:45.

[KWSN - DSM]

Christian Horner wins this year's John Bolster award for his exceptional contribution to motorsport technology

 

Ehh what?

 

Edit: I now see that this technology award often is given to the admin side of the teams.

Edited by KWSN - DSM, 04 December 2023 - 10:46.

[Organic]

Any rb20 rumours?

[WouterF1]

Teams  have the ability to run a 'Demonstration Event' for current-year cars, though these must not exceed 15km.

 

David Coulthard drove the RB1 and now the RB19!

 

https://www.instagra...BY/?img_index=1

 

https://www.instagra.../p/C0unTCnsnQK/

 

[Sparky68]

Any rb20 rumours?

Fair chance it will be mainly Blue

[Organic]

Fair chance it will be mainly Blue

I knew I could count on you

Well I can't wait to see it anyhow

[JeePee]

Fair chance it will be mainly Blue

I heard it will feature a Red Bull logo as well.

[MikeTekRacing]

Fair chance it will be mainly Blue

With 4 tyres. Black ones

[Beamer]

With 4 tyres. Black ones

I think it looks fast

[Kao18]

Some nice words from Jacques: https://www.planetf1...-max-verstappen

 

I tend to agree with him especially on the focused part.

 

As for domination I guess a lot has been said about this already. Of course the car was great especially in race trim but looking at the whole picture including qualifying I agree and dont think it was as dominant as the Mercedes in some of their dominant years.