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#751 Dolph

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 14:21

Abu Dhabi Q1. Albon 3rd, Sargeant 20th with no time on the board. OMG, a Grand Prix driver that can't get a legal lap in  :down:  :down:  :down:  :down:  :down:  :down:  :down:  :down:



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#752 PayasYouRace

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 14:23

I’d be looking for someone else for next season. Sergeant hasn’t made the cut.



#753 southernstars

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 14:34

Abu Dhabi Q1. Albon 3rd, Sargeant 20th with no time on the board. OMG, a Grand Prix driver that can't get a legal lap in  :down:  :down:  :down:  :down:  :down:  :down:  :down:  :down:

 

Yeah, because no-one else has ever done that, in the history of ever. It's not like we haven't had a dozen qualifying sessions already this year where big name drivers lose their laps.

 

He wasn't slow, he was very fast. He's done enough. And maybe he wouldn't be pushing it over the lines if he had some assurance...



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Posted 25 November 2023 - 14:36

Yeah, because no-one else has ever done that, in the history of ever. It's not like we haven't had a dozen qualifying sessions already this year where big name drivers lose their laps.

 

He wasn't slow, he was very fast. He's done enough. And maybe he wouldn't be pushing it over the lines if he had some assurance...

No we’ve just had a dozen qualifying sessions already where Logan has shown he’s not F1 material.



#755 Dolph

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 14:38

Yeah, because no-one else has ever done that, in the history of ever. It's not like we haven't had a dozen qualifying sessions already this year where big name drivers lose their laps.

 

He wasn't slow, he was very fast. He's done enough. And maybe he wouldn't be pushing it over the lines if he had some assurance...

 

 

When was the last time a big name driver failed to get any legal laptime in for Q1 when their teammate was top 3? When's that happened? I would put money on NEVER!



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Posted 25 November 2023 - 15:07

When was the last time a big name driver failed to get any legal laptime in for Q1 when their teammate was top 3? When's that happened? I would put money on NEVER!

 

Perez managed that in Q2 in Austria.



#757 Beri

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 16:06

All the salt on Sargeant again. Tiresome..

#758 djparky

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 16:25

For next year it seems to be either stick with Logan or hire what will likely be another rookie.

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 18:23

All the salt on Sargeant again. Tiresome..

 

Little tiresome that there is sugar on Sargeant as well.



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Posted 25 November 2023 - 19:35

Sargeant was looking pretty good there. He was 2 10ths behind Albon when he ran a little too wide. If it wasn’t for that, he would have been comfortably in Q2.

And, yes, I doubt he gained a meaningful amount of tome by running wide.

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Posted 25 November 2023 - 19:39

All the salt on Sargeant again. Tiresome..

After a season like that I'm saltier than the Dead Sea and anyone who doesn't understand that needs to learn more about sodium chloride.



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Posted 25 November 2023 - 20:03

Sargeant was looking pretty good there. He was 2 10ths behind Albon when he ran a little too wide. If it wasn’t for that, he would have been comfortably in Q2.

And, yes, I doubt he gained a meaningful amount of tome by running wide.

 

Sargeant really has found some speed in the last couple of races. And he has stopped crashing. Great to see that progress.

 

What I liked about his performance today was that he did not play it safe, but had the confidence to attack. I have no problem with young, inexperienced drivers making mistakes or crashing, that is all part of the sport. As long as they are fast and show improvement, all is good. I am quite impressed with Sargeant's mental fortitude and how he managed to turn his season around after those races where he constantly crashed.



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Posted 26 November 2023 - 17:07

Well, they hung on to seventh, and I'd have gladly taken seventh in March. I hope they can spend the money wisely, and I hope the team's second driver, whoever that is, can come close to matching Albon, because this seems to have been one of their biggest issues recently. Hard luck to Alpha Tauri; I think seventh could have been theirs if there'd been another race or two.



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Posted 26 November 2023 - 20:56

Well, they hung on to seventh, and I'd have gladly taken seventh in March. I hope they can spend the money wisely, and I hope the team's second driver, whoever that is, can come close to matching Albon, because this seems to have been one of their biggest issues recently. Hard luck to Alpha Tauri; I think seventh could have been theirs if there'd been another race or two.


My fear is that even with an ok car next year, with a 1 car team ( maybe Logan can come back stronger next year) the Alfa, TR and Haas if taking their opportunities will beat them.

the only issue i have with Logan is there was not one race weekend where i went wow that was special. Piastri stacked up well with Norris in his rookie year.

So the question is who is the replacement not much out there. F2 rookies are not not better than a Logan second year. I always believe rookies need 2 years especially now with little testing.

#765 Beri

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Posted 26 November 2023 - 21:28

7th is a dream after recent years. A dream.



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Posted 26 November 2023 - 23:03

This was the best season for Williams in ages. In 2021 the team was flattered by two freak races and some brilliant qualifying laps by Russell, but this year finally they managed to produce a fairly competitive car. Zandvoort was the highlight, unfortunately the team didn’t nail the strategy but it was good to see a Williams catching the cars at the front on pure pace.

Next year hopefully the upwards trajectory will continue, and Sargeant will improve further. I am cautiously optimistic.

Edited by CaptHaddock91, 26 November 2023 - 23:04.


#767 PayasYouRace

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Posted 26 November 2023 - 23:09

7th with a one driver team against Alpha Tauri that was also a one driver team. Get a proper second driver and it won't be so close. Nice to see pace in the car regularly this year.



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Posted 28 November 2023 - 09:55

7th with a one driver team against Alpha Tauri that was also a one driver team. Get a proper second driver and it won't be so close. Nice to see pace in the car regularly this year.

 

Perhaps ironically with this remark, had Logan not held Daniel up for several laps, Daniel would have overtaken Stroll and finished 10th, moving Alpha Tauri ahead. It's a shame that fight didn't get any airtime as I was keeping an eye on it with live timing and it looked quite a fun battle.



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Posted 28 November 2023 - 13:44

For the first time in almost two decades, Franco Colapinto became the first Argentine to climb aboard and test a Formula 1 car in official trials of the top series. Colapinto participated in the Young Drivers Tests, where at the end of each season, Formula 1 opens its doors for younger drivers to conduct trials in an F1 car.
 
As a member of the young driver academy of the Williams Racing team, Colapinto completed a total of 66 laps and 348 kilometers with the Williams FW45 from the season that just ended this weekend. The Argentine placed tenth among the 20 drivers who took part in the trials, and his best time was 1:26.832, two seconds behind the fastest of the day, the Spanish Carlos Sáinz with Ferrari.
 
The most important aspect of this first experience is that Colapinto completed the necessary kilometers to obtain the Super License, allowing him to compete in the most important series of international motorsport, including Formula 1. The Argentine's tests were conducted without making mistakes and accumulating as many kilometers as possible in this first experience with an F1 car.
 
Last weekend, at the same Yas Marina circuit, Colapinto made his debut in an official Formula 2 race, also in a car from the MP Motorsport Dallara team. The Argentine finished in 19th place in the first competition and retired due to problems with the car in the second. Trials with Formula 2 will continue this week as part of the 20-year-old Argentine driver's plan to complete the entire season of this F1 supporting series in 2024.
 
Coinciding with these trials, the Williams team paid tribute to its founder, Frank Williams, marking two years since his passing.
 
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#770 PayasYouRace

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 14:02

Can you please not copy-paste articles like that.

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 15:32


 
 
 
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I don't know who does what, but good to see that there are more than a token female on the team picture.



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Posted 28 November 2023 - 17:21

Not sure if anyone has seen this, but would highly recommend this Alex Albon interview/podcast. Some of the best insight I've heard about what it's like to be a Formula 1 driver.

 

 



#773 Beri

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 22:16

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I don't know who does what, but good to see that there are more than a token female on the team picture.


White shirts are management, pit wall, communications or hospitality people. Blue are mechanics, truckies or security.

#774 PayasYouRace

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Posted 28 November 2023 - 23:27

Blue are also drivers.