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Poll: Racing in the night of Diriyah! | Formula E Double Header! [27th-28th Jan] (15 member(s) have cast votes)

What are you looking forward the most in Riyadh?

  1. Gen 3 facing the first proper street circuit of the season (7 votes [46.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.67%

  2. Night Races! (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Formula E should do double headers every round! (5 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  4. Andretti & Dennis still at the top! (2 votes [13.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.33%

  5. DS & Maserati back on pace for the win! (1 votes [6.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

  6. The Rookies taking the headlines! (0 votes [0.00%])

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#1 thegamer23

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 12:09

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عشاق رياضة السيارات أهلا بكم في الرياض

 

 

 

WHEN: Race 1 on Friday, Race 2 on Saturday!  
WHERE: Ad-Diriyah, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia!
WHY: Formula E's Macau, the most challenging street circuit in the calendar, always producing drama. And now with Gen 3!

 

 

 

 

WEEKEND SCHEDULE | UTC TIMES       الرياض

 

 

THURSDAY  |||||||||||||||||

Free Practice 1  | 15.30 UTC 

 

 

FRIDAY  ||||||||||||||||

 

Free Practice 2 | 11.00 UTC
Qualifying 
| 12.50 UTC

RACE 1 | 17.00 UTC

 

 

SATURDAY  |||||||||||||||||

 

Free Practice 3 | 11.00 UTC
Qualifying 
| 12.50 UTC

RACE 2 | 17.00 UTC

 
 
 
 
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GEN 3 BAPTISM OF FIRE ON THE TOUGHEST STREET CIRCUIT!
 

 

The Ad-Diriyah e-Prix is considered by many as Formula E's Macau: the most challenging street circuit in the calendar, always producing drama.
The runoffs are short, the walls close, the track surface is made slippery by the sand. Go offline, and you're in the wall, hard!

 

Gen 3 cars arrives in Riyadh after a quite solid debut in Mexico City, also in terms of reliability: 17 cars finished the race, with only one retirement for tech issues. 

Riyadh will be a baptism of fire for the new cars, with much more extreme conditions: temperature will be a factor, as the qualifying is set to be in the hot local afternoon, while the races will be on a much colder track, in the evening.

 

 

 

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The 2.4 Km Ad Diriyhah e-Prix Circuit features all sort of corners & challenges for the drivers: it's a continuous effort for the drivers, with literally no time to rest as the track swings up & down across the old city, with a fast & sweeping section with walls close by.
First sector is more technical, slower, with some big brakings, perfect opportunity for overtakings. 

If Mexico was deemed as very physical with these new Gen 3 cars, Riyadh should be THOUGH for the drivers, that are called to wrestle this lighter, more powerful cars around the Saudi venue. 
 
 
 
 
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Let's jump onboard with Alexander Sims, Mahindra driver last season and poleman in Season 6 around this super difficult Formula E track!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

EMERGENCY BRAKES INSTALLED! 

 

Given the street circuit nature of Diriyah, the lack of major runoffs & the stop&go characteristic of the tracks, teams have vocally asked FIA to bring an emergency solution for the occasional yet dangerous issues that happened in Pre-Season with the new Gen 3 car.


In fact, given the lack of rear brakes & the high amount of Re-Gen on the front (so, front brakes not really on temperature either), the drivers struggled to stop the car in case of a battery failure scenario. 
At least 4 shunts happened in Pre-Season for this very reason, but here comes the solution!

A secondary brake system (not much detail on that) has been installed on the cars and will be tested before FP1.
An emergency system, only to be used once in case of failure. Will be monitored by FIA via telemetry.

 

 

 

https://the-race.com...re-saudi-debut/

 

 

 

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POSITIVE DEBUT FOR GEN 3, BUT LOT OF ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT!

 

 

As previously said, Gen 3 Debut in Mexico was mostly trouble-free and clean.
It wasn't the most spectacular or action packed Formula E race ever, but it was a solid one, with a good buildup towards the end with a big 4 way fight for the last podium place.

 

The event itself was great for the spectators, and a massive crowd of nearly 50k was packed on the grandstands for the Mexico City E-Prix.
A success!


 

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These new cars looks more agile & quick out of the corners, and the drivers can push more in the races, as confirmed by Jake Dennis, thanks to the increased Front-Regen.

However, the overall grip is even less than with Gen 2, that's on the new Hankook tyres wich are extremely hard & durable, as FIA requested.


So, the overall laptimes are still similar to the previous Gen, while the dynamics of the veichles changed completely.
Even the racing feels different: more open wheel-esque, with drivers calculating their moves more, rather than throwing the car on the inside, waiting for the contact. 

 

Mexico was just the first step of a brand new era, and we're comparing it to peak Gen 2 development.
Let's see how the teams & drivers will keep finding gains in the new package, and how much they'll be able to extract performance out of it.

 

 

 

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CAN DENNIS & ANDRETTI REPEAT MEXICO SUCCESS? 
 

 

Mexico City saw a phenomenal drive by Jake Dennis taking the win by 7 secondswhat a debut performance in Gen 3 for Andretti-Porsche.

 

All the Porsche powered powertrains did very good in Mexico, in fact: Wehrlein finished 2nd in the factory team, while Lotterer finished 4th in the second Andretti.

A great start of the season for the german manufacturer, but will it happen again in Riyadh?
The circuit is completely different from Mexico: everything could change!

In the first race of the season we also saw a brilliant Lucas Di Grassi taking Mahindra to the podium after taking a maiden Pole Position.
The Indian-based team is looking for another good result before Hyderabad, the first ever Formula E indian race that's gonna be held later this season.

 

 

 

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Jack Hughes did great at debut all weekend long with McLaren: the rookie was fast in quali, fast in race, even though he lacked a little bit of aggression in the fight with Lucas di Grassi.

He eventually finished 5th, but was still impressive. 

Another Rookie, Sacha Fenestraz was fast in quali, pushing the Nissan in the quali duels when nobody expected it. 
Other drivers that impressed in quali, Dan Ticktum, doing great in quali with his NIO333 before a penalty for power over-use destroyed his race.

 

Biggest disappointments of Mexico were for sure the DS-Powered cars: Penske & Maserati.

Current World Champ Stoffel Vandoorne & Jean Eric Vergne were marginally on the points, mostly invisible all weekend long.

 

 

 

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Super fast in testing, Maserati was nowhere to be seen in the race. 
Will they bounce back in Riyadh?

A weekend of technical issues & frustration saw Jaguar leaving Mexico with just an 8th place for Mitch Evans and a DNF for Sam Bird.
But we can expect the english manufacturer to be fast later in the season.

 

 

 

MEXICO CITY E-PRIX HIGHLIGHTS

 

 


 

 

 

 

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VAN DER LINDE REPLACES INJURED FRIJNS! 

 

 

Big news in terms of lineup for this weekend.

Unfortunately, Robin Frijns has fractured his hand & wrist in really bad fashion during the first lap of the Mexico e-Prix.


Cars in front of him suddently slowed down exiting the chicane, and the dutchman of Abt smashed into the back of Nato, with the steering wheel going crazy & slamming on his left hand.
He was hospitalized and he'll need a long period of recovery: according to TheRace, he'll comeback only in the last part of the season.

 

 

 


As we wish him a good & speedy recovery, his place will be taken by South African, GT star, Kevin Van Der Linde

Quite a difficult task for him: jumping into a new car with zero km's of driving experience, just some simulator runs.


His main objective will be to finish both races, keep it off the walls and to gather experience.
 

 

 

 

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WHERE TO WATCH FORMULA E?

 

 

Take a loot on the Formula E Website, pick your country and see where and when it's gonna be aired!

https://www.fiaformu...n/ways-to-watch

 

 

BROADCAST LIST BY COUNTRY  

(in spoiler because it's a huge list)

 

Check it out so you'll know where to watch every session!
 

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

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#2 juicy sushi

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 14:30

It will be very, very interesting to see if the form shown in Mexico carries over or if everything completely changes.  I am thinking that the remarks Porsche made during the Valencia test about their car being better on efficiency than raw pace might continue to hold and we may see a situation where other teams might show strongly in qualifying, but in the race, Porsche may have an edge in being able to maintain pace later on, where others might have more worries about temperature and other details.



#3 BRG

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 15:09

So, who is boycotting this event because of the host nation's human rights record?



#4 Ben1445

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 15:37

39 laps (+any additional) for the race durations it seems



#5 thegamer23

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 16:06

Last season was 41, for reference.

I'd say a Safety car is more than likely around there.

If i had to make a prediction i'd say 43 or 44 laps are on the cards, wich is pretty good.

 

 

Meanwhile, Van Der Linde settling in at Abt.

 

 

From Ski Slopes to Formula E tracks in one week, behind the scenes of Van Der Linde's FE debut

https://the-race.com...lurry-build-up/

 

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Edited by thegamer23, 25 January 2023 - 16:07.


#6 RSRally

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 16:53

No track changes here so we'll get a good comparison with previous years lap time wise. I wonder whether they might actually be slower here with the new car though as there's lots of wiggly bits for the tyres to contend with?

#7 juicy sushi

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 17:36

Will be interesting to find out.  Are the teams going to be any closer to understanding the window for the tires?  It'll be warmer track temps than Mexico, so might be easier or harder to keep them in the right window.  We just don't know.



#8 thegamer23

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 18:06

Typical english weather in Saudi arabia.  :smoking: 

 

FP1 tomorrow might be in wet conditions, while Friday & Saturday expected to be dry.

 

 

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Very interesting article about how Gen 3 cars are much more physical demanding than Gen 2's.

 

How Gen 3 changed Formula E's Physicality 

https://the-race.com...-e-physicality/

 

 

 

 

 

20 Minutes Pitlane Preview Show  :up:  :up: 

 


Edited by thegamer23, 25 January 2023 - 18:43.


#9 balage06

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Posted 25 January 2023 - 18:56

Oh, so no clash with Daytona then? Great! :up:



#10 thegamer23

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 08:10

Yep, no clash, wich is awesome!
Quite a weekend for motorsport fans  :up:

 

 

TODAY'S SCHEDULE

BST TIMES
 

 

12.00 || SHAKEDOWN (30 minutes)

An extended session for the teams to test the new secondary brakes solution before FP1.

Not broadcasted.

 

 

15.00 || FREE PRACTICE 1 

Live on Youtube. 

 

 

 

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Edited by thegamer23, 26 January 2023 - 08:10.


#11 Ben1445

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 09:45

sniffermedia @sniffermedia
New ‘secondary brake’ system fitted and hooked up with calliper to ECU for any emergency stopping. It was kind of unconscionable to race here of all places without this safety net. Will be tested on the start straight in shakedown this afternoon #DiriyahEPrix

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So it is essentially a 'conventional braking system' then? What was all that in The Race's articles about it not being just that?

Edited by Ben1445, 26 January 2023 - 09:52.


#12 BRG

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 10:01

Ah, technical innovation!  Ring Brembo, ask them to send some brakes, fit them to cars.   :rolleyes:



#13 Ben1445

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 10:17

I mean I guess it’s unconventional in a racing sense in that it’s a backup designed to stop the car once in an emergency situation with no need to keep working afterwards but… it’s a conventional squeeze-the-spinning-disc brake.

Not annoyed at the solution at all - it needs to be safe and reliable and this does the job today, no need to reinvent the wheel - just think The Race’s reporting on it was really rubbish and misleading. Which I suppose is about standard from them.
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Edited by Ben1445, 26 January 2023 - 10:22.


#14 thegamer23

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 10:40

Well, i guess most important thing is that it works!

It was a rushed, emergency call. 
I'd expect something more evolved to be introduced later in the season or for next year.



#15 BRG

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 10:51

Not annoyed at the solution at all

Nor me, just bemused that a highly technologically inspired & innovative race series and ten very experienced and professional race teams struggled so much to implement a solution that was, to coin a phrase, bleedin' obvious



#16 Ben1445

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 10:57

I guess the ultimate evolution is having that primarily regen braking system which is safe and reliable enough to not require an additional safety back up system.

Racing cars have had conventional hydraulic disc brakes for decades but they’ve not all been fitted with an additional emergency air brake just in case they fail. Modern systems are safe and reliable enough as they are.

(Ok, the Mercedes 300 SLR had an air brake at Le Mans in the 50s but I guess that was more about reducing wear on the the drum brakes over the 24 hours to bridge the competitive gap to disc brakes.)

Edited by Ben1445, 26 January 2023 - 11:02.


#17 Risil

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 11:05

The issue we were talking about a few weeks ago was that a "use in case of emergency" backup conventional brake would not be particularly reliable or effective unless it's at the operating temperature at all times. Did they solve that or did it prove not to be a problem after all?



#18 Ben1445

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 11:15

I can imagine it being the case that the solution working from a ‘cold’ condition comes at the expense of being able to use it a second time?

If you simply duplicated the racing carbon brakes from the front and put them on the rear, I guess that would have the same issues with working from a cold temperature.

This, however, looks like it is just squeezing a sacrificial bit of metal very hard one time maybe and if you have to use it you’re out of the race. Needs new discs and pads before you can go racing again. End result being the same only you’ve stopped reasonably safely rather than ploughed into a wall at high speed. Which is all it needs to do.

Edited by Ben1445, 26 January 2023 - 11:19.


#19 Ben1445

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:00

Nor me, just bemused that a highly technologically inspired & innovative race series and ten very experienced and professional race teams struggled so much to implement a solution that was, to coin a phrase, bleedin' obvious

Did they struggle? 



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#20 thegamer23

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:05

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#21 Risil

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:06

Hiss hiss devil tyres



#22 Ben1445

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:08

New article in the sporting regulations confirm the emergency-use-only nature of the rear brake:

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The secondary brake system can be used only in case of emergency and its use under normal racing conditions is forbidden. Except when it is expressly authorised by the FIA to carry out a system check, any activation of the secondary brake system will be reported to the stewards and the Driver penalised up to the disqualification from the session.



#23 Risil

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:14

Interesting. Any idea how it's operated by the driver?



#24 thegamer23

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:15

Danger zone!

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#25 Ben1445

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:21

Interesting. Any idea how it's operated by the driver?

 

What we have from The Race: 

"The system’s concept will incorporate a solenoid that the driver will open via the brakes on the front axle, which will connect directly to the rear in order to provide a quicker method of stopping the car in the event of a complete system shutdown." 

 

Which doesn't really help. Sam Smith may have some of the best paddock connections, but his technical reporting is not the best. 



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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:23

You're right, the meaning of that sentence is quite unclear.

 

The reason I ask is that by nature an emergency brake has to be operated after a split-second decision that the regular brakes aren't working and the car needs to be stopped by other means. If it's manually controlled that raises the problem of making it convenient and simple enough to use in a hurry, but far enough out the regular operation of the car so that it's not triggered by mistake. These aren't totally new problems but I'm interested to know how they're trying to solve them.



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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:31

It’s a fair question. I would guess that it wouldn’t be a third pedal, steering wheel paddle/button or hand operated level for those reasons.

Something along the lines of the brake-by-wire controller sending the driver’s brake pedal signal to the rear emergency brake when it receives an error code from or loses connection with the RESS would sound more reasonable.

I guess you’d want the driver to be in control of the pressure applied rather than it simply grabbing the disc as hard as possible when triggered, so they don’t lock the rears and/or get stranded in a dangerous position.
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Edited by Ben1445, 26 January 2023 - 12:37.


#28 maximilian

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:46

Great OP, again!  :love:

 

This whole brake fiasco just underlines how stupid some of these newer "advanced" features are on a car, and how simple it was to work on an "old fashioned" car without all the electronic nonsense that just results in expensive failures.



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Posted 26 January 2023 - 13:22

This whole brake fiasco just underlines how stupid some of these newer "advanced" features are on a car, and how simple it was to work on an "old fashioned" car without all the electronic nonsense that just results in expensive failures.

I mean, using regenerative braking as the primary braking system has obvious advantages both on the race track and in the real world. I really wouldn’t call it electric nonsense or being electric for electric’s sake.

The issues which have arisen here are largely managerial in the sense that a fail-safe system with adequate redundancy (software, mechanical or otherwise) was not available ahead of the first race of the season. If this issue was preempted and suitable solutions were in place before teams took delivery of the cars, we may never have heard about it.

But I cannot agree with any suggestion that pushing these technological boundaries are an inherently bad idea. Lessons learned here can benefit both FE and the sport in general.

Edited by Ben1445, 26 January 2023 - 13:29.


#30 thegamer23

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 14:20

Nice message of support to Robin on Abt's halo

 

- 40 min to FP1

 

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#31 Peat

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 14:32

The issue we were talking about a few weeks ago was that a "use in case of emergency" backup conventional brake would not be particularly reliable or effective unless it's at the operating temperature at all times. Did they solve that or did it prove not to be a problem after all?

 

The picture looks like a single peice, relatively thin rotor. It should warm up pretty quickly. Looks more akin to a Mountain Bike brake over even a Motorcycle. 



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Posted 26 January 2023 - 14:49

It's time to go Free Practice in Diriyah!
And after the session, a lenghty post session discussion with guests from the pitlane, wich is a welcomed new feature of this season.

 

LIVE NOW  (well in 5 minutes)

 



#33 Ben1445

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 15:20

They are looking a lot quicker going onto the start straight

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 15:33

First Porsche powertrain down in P10.

 

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 15:41

It's cold, dark and damp but times are currently slower than the Gen2 pole laps from the last two years, which is a bit awks.



#36 Peat

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 15:50

They look fast as hell on the straights, just pedestrian in the corners. No grip!



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Posted 26 January 2023 - 16:11

I suppose there will be more to come over the weekend once the track cleans and rubbers in but i'd be surprised if they can match last year's pole time of a 1m07.1s.

To be only slightly faster than Gen2 I think everyone could live with. But to be over 3s slower with 100kw more and a lighter car is a bit extreme. Pretty sure there will be calls for softer compounds from Hankook soon.

Edited by RSRally, 26 January 2023 - 16:11.


#38 MattK9

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 16:48

Less grip should lead to better racing. That didnt seem to be the case in Mexico but that race had very little energy saving required to reach the end of the race.

 

I would like it if they made a soft tyre for some rounds. Imagine bolting on super soft slick tyres around Monaco and seeing the time!



#39 thegamer23

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 16:49

Just looked FP1 in Riyadh

Cars looks proper fast as soon as they can get their power down.   :up:

They look much more spectacular to watch honestly, much more than Gen 2's, wich looked like boats sometimes.

Even if the pace difference with the previous Gen isn't there yet, they just look...more interesting.

I'm not too obsessed with them being or not being much faster than before, as long as they look more spectacular on track and deliver good racing.

 

 

The fast, twisty second sector bit will be FUN to watch in quali, the drivers will really make a difference there.

 

 

FP1 RESULTS

 

Bird is the word!!

Jaguar & DS bounced back already from their Mexico poor showing apparently!

Ticktum continuing to show flashes of great speed with the NIO.
Hughes was up there most of the session too.

 

First laps for Van Der Linde in the Abt, not too shabby!

 

 

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Not a great start of the year for Rast, who touched the back of Vandoorne, losing his front wing before T1.

 

 

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The car itself is growing on me the more i see it on track.
It looks aggressive from most angles.

 

 

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 17:08

It's cold, dark and damp but times are currently slower than the Gen2 pole laps from the last two years, which is a bit awks.

 

Track was also recently resurfaced in parts, it's more slippery. 

 

Di Grassi:
 

“They resurfaced the whole track and there are a couple of bumps on the straight that we’re only going to know all about when we drive,” di Grassi told The Race.

“I think the conditions of the track with the rain that came yesterday, you can feel even here that there is a lot of dirt.

“This tyre, it doesn’t rubber in so much, which is a good thing because it doesn’t create marbles all around, so there are no small balls of tyres that make you slide a lot, but at the same time it doesn’t rubber down the [racing] line.

So even if the track cleans up, dries up and cleans up, we’re not going to have the same grip as we would have had [with the tyres from previous supplier Michelin].”

 

 

Anyway, today they were already faster than last year's FP1 times (10''5 was the best lap from de vries)


Edited by thegamer23, 26 January 2023 - 18:00.


#41 RSRally

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 18:02

Less grip should lead to better racing. That didnt seem to be the case in Mexico but that race had very little energy saving required to reach the end of the race.


I'm not sure energy saving is even required if Attack Mode works. But as the cars can't put down the extra power with these tyres it renders attack mode a little impotent.

#42 MattK9

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 18:09

I'm not sure energy saving is even required if Attack Mode works. But as the cars can't put down the extra power with these tyres it renders attack mode a little impotent.

 

Yes, I was thinking this. More grip in the tyres would mean the cars would use more energy each lap. This would lead to a better spectacle to watch as the cars have to manage their energy.



#43 Ben1445

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 18:18

Apparently the energy allowance is being reduced slightly from 41kWh in Mexico to 40kWh this weekend.

That’s interesting enough considering that Gen2 allowed 52kWh (and reduced it to 48kWh and 46kWh for London).

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 18:21

More grip in the tyres would mean the cars would use more energy each lap.


For those at the back not paying attention, why would this be the case?

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 18:35

Tomorrow's Racing Schedule.

 

Free Practice 2 | 11.00 UTC
Qualifying 
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RACE 1 | 17.00 UTC

 

 

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 18:56

Apparently the energy allowance is being reduced slightly from 41kWh in Mexico to 40kWh this weekend.

That’s interesting enough considering that Gen2 allowed 52kWh (and reduced it to 48kWh and 46kWh for London).


Shows how efficient the new cars are! Other way to make energy more marginal would be to increase the length of attack mode which is only 4 mins this year.

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 23:24

I'm not 100% sure what the Gen3 battery capacity actually is at this stage. 

 

The original tender spec'ed for 51 kWh, though some sources suggest the gross capacity may have become 47kWh. The Season 9 technical regulations say that the net usable energy allowed in the race is 38.5 kWh (article 7.5), however a report from The Race today says Mexico was run to 41 kWh. 

 

Gen2 was always listed as having a 54kWh battery, but was limited in the technical regulations to a maximum of 52kWh in the races. If that 47kWh figure is analogous to the 54kWh of Gen2, it suggests that there may be scope to unlock another ~10% of usable energy. Reasons for not using all of that right now may be due to keeping race duration to within an hour, or it could be that they're being more conservative with the battery given the charging demands they plan to place on it later in the season. But this is mostly speculation. 



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Posted 27 January 2023 - 08:10

Race 1 Day in Diriyah!

FP2 starting at 10.30 AM UTC 

 

 

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Season 9 helmets

Pick your favourite!

 

 

 

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 09:00

Ahhh, for some reason I thought the races were Saturday and Sunday (that's what I get for clearly not reading the OP closely enough). I'll have to catch up on today's race. Fingers crossed it's fun!  :up:


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#50 MattK9

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 10:27

For those at the back not paying attention, why would this be the case?

 

Because the amount of power they can use seems to now be limited by on corner exit by the tyres grip. If they had softer tyres they would use more power out of corners.