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[jimjimjeroo]

I believe Haas are launching their new livery today!

 

 

[PayasYouRace]

Ah yes. Odd numbered year, dodgy sounding sponsor. Let’s we what they come up with.

[Ali623]

Ah yes. Odd numbered year, dodgy sounding sponsor. Let’s we what they come up with.

 

Aren't MoneyGram a fairly legit company as far as F1 sponsors go?

[loki]

Moneygram is a business established 40 years ago and has become the second largest provider of money transfer services worldwide. They are traded on NASDAQ with a market cap of just over a billion.  I know it’s fashionable to bash the sponsors of the Americans but let's at least acknowledge the facts about the company.

[PayasYouRace]

Aren't MoneyGram a fairly legit company as far as F1 sponsors go?

Hence dodgy “sounding”.

[JimmyClark]

Indeed, Moneygram is a huge coup for them. I doubt it will change much in terms of livery design though, considering their colours match Haas' corporate colours.

[ConsiderAndGo]

MoneyGram are no tinpot sponsor. They're pretty big league.

[loki]

Hence dodgy “sounding”.

Sounds no more dodgy than naming a company “Red Bull”…

[BRG]

Hence dodgy “sounding”.

I think you are confusing it with Moneytron.

 

Which was a dodgy F1 sponsor.

[PayasYouRace]

I think you are confusing it with Moneytron.

Which was a dodgy F1 sponsor.

I’m not confusing them. But I’m sure the similarity of the names helps the association.

Must everyone get so tightly wound about a comment about the sponsor name? It’s like you all work for MoneyGram or something.

[se7en_24]

Moneygram are probably reading this thread along with other sponsors and thinking twice about supporting F1 teams. Shame on you PayasYouRace! 

[B Squared]

Truth can be hard to find at places like this, why intentionally poison the well?

[PayasYouRace]

I guess I don’t know my own power. Still, with Haas’ track record for sponsors, I’m amazed they’ve attracted another. Maybe this time it’ll work out.

[KWSN - DSM]

I as usual have high expectations in how well Haas will perform in 2023, if previous seasons are a guideline they will start out strong, then falter the longer the season last. I can not change they went with the uninspirering choice of Hulkenberg next to Magnussen, so will back Nico almost as much as I back Kevin.

[KWSN - DSM]

I guess I don’t know my own power. Still, with Haas’ track record for sponsors, I’m amazed they’ve attracted another. Maybe this time it’ll work out.

 

You have been going on about this for 2 days now, maybe that is why posters get a little upset?

[P123]

I think you are confusing it with Moneytron.

 

Which was a dodgy F1 sponsor.

 

Yeah, hence "sounds like".   Reminds me of Moneytron, which of course is no reflection on MoneyGram the company.

[Risil]

Moneygram are probably reading this thread along with other sponsors and thinking twice about supporting F1 teams. Shame on you PayasYouRace! 

 

I'm going to refer to the Haas car as The Moneygram as often as possible to make up for it

[Risil]

Yeah, hence "sounds like".   Reminds me of Moneytron, which of course is no reflection on MoneyGram the company.

 

Absolutely, the promised returns on a Moneygram transfer are rubbish compared to how much the Moneytron computer can make for you.

[PayasYouRace]

You have been going on about this for 2 days now, maybe that is why posters get a little upset?

I haven’t, but whatever. It’s just a sponsor name.

[KWSN - DSM]

I haven’t, but whatever. It’s just a sponsor name.

 

Yesterday and today, 2 days - this one was yesterday: https://forums.autos...hes/?p=10168236

[thegamer23]

The day haaaaaaaaaaas come!

Hopefully a refreshed look and an exciting season with the Hulk & Kmag.
 

[PayasYouRace]

Yesterday and today, 2 days - this one was yesterday: https://forums.autos...hes/?p=10168236

I was just making a prediction based on their pattern. I’d completely forgotten about MoneyGram.

[Sterzo]

Hence dodgy “sounding”.

I'm with you totally on this. I worked in financial services, and a name like "MoneyGram" would have excited ridicule and suspicion in equal measure.

[BRG]

I'm with you totally on this. I worked in financial services, and a name like "MoneyGram" would have excited ridicule and suspicion in equal measure.

I am assuming you were in financial services in the UK?

 

The FCA list a number of companies with 'dodgy' names, such as Money Sage, Money Guru, Money Wisdom, Moneyback, Money Puzzle, etc etc.  Moneygram is a US company and they doubtless have a more relaxed view about a company name, but even so, it is hardly more risible than these UK ones.

[PayasYouRace]

I am assuming you were in financial services in the UK?

The FCA list a number of companies with 'dodgy' names, such as Money Sage, Money Guru, Money Wisdom, Moneyback, Money Puzzle, etc etc. Moneygram is a US company and they doubtless have a more relaxed view about a company name, but even so, it is hardly more risible than these UK ones.

Any of those signal “avoid like the plague”. Don’t know why you’re trying to make this a UK vs US thing.

[Risil]

A colleague of mine once told me he was considering taking up an offer to deliver an IT project for a crypto company called CoinBurp.

[jonpollak]

I read MoneyGrab.
Far less ‘dodgy’ a description yeah?

Jp

[Teleriel]

I just want to see a nice clean livery honestly... Hopefully it won't be horrendous. 

[Pete_f1]

Expecting red and white livery

[FirstnameLastname]

Expecting red and white livery

Black and red say I

[Risil]

I'm with you totally on this. I worked in financial services, and a name like "MoneyGram" would have excited ridicule and suspicion in equal measure.

 

Put your money in sensible sounding ventures like FTX and Wirecard, that's my advice.

 

DISCLAIMER: I am not a financial adviser and this should not be construed as advice.

[BRG]

Any of those signal “avoid like the plague”. Don’t know why you’re trying to make this a UK vs US thing.

I'm not.  Just pointing out that a name that "would have excited ridicule and suspicion"  in what I assumed to be UK financial circles is far from unusual in those very circles.

 

Moneygram is a large and long established company that does not deserve to be termed 'dodgy'.  Let's save that for the crypto scams 

Edited by BRG, 31 January 2023 - 12:17.

[jonpollak]

Put your money in sensible sounding ventures like FTX and Wirecard, that's my advice.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a financial adviser and this should not be construed as advice.

Damnit…..
I forgot to read as far as the DISCLAIMER. !!
Nooooooo !!?!?!?!

Jp

[Risil]

Damnit…..
I forgot to read as far as the DISCLAIMER. !!
Nooooooo !!?!?!?!

Jp

 

What is life without risk? Now get in line with the other unsecured creditors.

[jonpollak]

Holy Cow..
The line stretches from Reigate to Fukuoka.

Jp

[thegamer23]

Haaaaaaasome

 

[pacificquay]

Ridiculously tiny car number on the front - we're back in a trend of them getting smaller every year. Plenty space for it to be two or three times the size.

[ConsiderAndGo]

I mean, its nicer than last year. Pretty clean actually.

[Alex79]

lol, thnx to the angle of the picture the front wing reads One Gram 😁

[JimmyClark]

I like it. I think we will see a lot of black incorporated into liveries this year, after the somewhat ugly solutions teams had last year as they shaved more and more paint off. 

[JL14]

The "Palm Angels" font doesn't suit the car

[TomNokoe]

Very nice. F1 2023 up and running.

[Anja]

Well made, one of their best ones - but still pretty boring. 

Edited by Anja, 31 January 2023 - 14:18.

[JL14]

lol, thnx to the angle of the picture the front wing reads One Gram 😁

"One gram" and a white line running over the nose towards it. That's some subliminal advertising 

[Spillage]

Haaaaaaasome

I like it! A notable improvement on their usual pretty tawdry efforts. Looks fast!

[highdownforce]

Penske

[PayasYouRace]

Smart! Got a 90s Newman-Haas Texaco vibe which I’m all for, but still does a good job of making black, white and red look fresh and original.

A strong start to the livery launch season.

[FirstnameLastname]

Anyone for an Everton mint?

[messy]

Not bad. I suspect it'll look pretty similar to last year's on TV though, from the front.

[taran]

It's clean and quite nice but also quite forgettable unfortunately.

 

But considering the signage Haas (still) has on the car, I suspect it's Gene rather than TeleMoneygram that's picking up the big bills...

 

 

And yes, it does evoke the Kmart Newman/Haas Lola's of the 1990s as well as the Braun Tyrrell for me.