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[Lights]

For this season I decided to switch to half points. Hopefully I remain happy with that decision until the end of time.

 

[William Hunt]

I find these ratings to be very nuanced and for me personally pretty spot on. You could argue that Sargeant maybe deserved a 7 because it was his rookie race and he set pretty good race lap times but frankly I feel these ratings are so much more nuanced as the ones from the magazines. Bottas was one that was overlooked by many (including me) but indeed he delivered a great result and that 8 for him is well deserved.  You could maybe argue for an 8 for Albon but or a 7.5 for Gasly but this feels correct as well.
This feels very objective to me, with many ratings you always have a feeling that the author gave his personal favourite a point higher and one he dislikes a point lower but here I don't get that feeling at all. I'm going to follow your ratings this year Lights. You clearly didn't just follow your gut feeling but thought about it.

Edited by William Hunt, 07 March 2023 - 20:33.

[P123]

For this season I decided to switch to half points. Hopefully I remain happy with that decision until the end of time.

 

 

Going by the ratings topic, something tells me these are going to be a tad more sane than whatever it is Autosport, The Race and whoever else have managed to come up with.

[Risil]

Apologies in advance for my ignorance but where are you getting the ratings from?

[jcbc3]

It's his own. It's separate from the media ranking thread. At one time people made their own rankings in the media thread so we decided to split these of into their own thread. Lights has been very consistent in doing these for some years.

[KWSN - DSM]

Not a huge difference from mine

Verstappen - 8.0
Leclerc    - 8.0
Alonso     - 8.0
Albon      - 7.5
Hamilton   - 7.5
Stroll     - 7.0
Bottas     - 7.0
Perez      - 7.0
Sainz      - 6.5
Russel     - 6.5
Gasly      - 6.0
Sargeant   - 6.0
Magnussen  - 6.0
Hulkenberg - 6.0
Tsunoda    - 6.0
Zhou       - 5.5
Norris     - 5.5
Piastri    - 5.0
de Vries   - 4.5
Ocon       - 4.0

[Lights]

[Beamer]

 

Leclerc 8?  I found his performance in the race quite lacklustre. Alo maximized, so why less then Russel or LecL?
No real opinion on the others....

[Lights]

Leclerc 8?  I found his performance in the race quite lacklustre. Alo maximized, so why less then Russel or LecL?
No real opinion on the others....

 

Happy to explain. First of all, I don't only rate the race, but the performance across the weekend. And an 8 isn't that high: it's just the highest rating this time around because nobody really excelled.

Maybe Leclerc's race indeed wasn't spectacular, but he proved he had great pace this weekend and his race was efficient in the context of his grid penalty and how his race played out with the SC timing.

 

I don't particularly put much value on "maximizing" in regards to finishing positions. It felt to me like Alonso made P3 a bit harder than it should have been given his car and situation.

His unconvincing qualifying and his grid slot error play a role in that. It's not entirely relevant that on this occasion that didn't translate into a worse result.

[MikeTekRacing]

Leclerc beaten in the race by his team mate with a better score than the winner and pole sitter?

[Anderis]

Leclerc beaten in the race by his team mate with a better score than the winner and pole sitter?

Maybe because both events have been influenced by one of the team mates starting out of position due to issues that weren't their fault?

[MikeTekRacing]

Maybe because both events have been influenced by one of the team mates starting out of position due to issues that weren't their fault?

Those events were not influencing the other drivers though.
Checo got 1st in q and in the race. What more could he have done?

[JeePee]

Those events were not influencing the other drivers though.
Checo got 1st in q and in the race. What more could he have done?

Drive the fastest lap and lead the championship?

[William Hunt]

Here I really don't agree that you gave Max a higher rating as Perez for Jeddah. Perez won fair and square and Max was not able to close to gap to the lead at all when he was in second. Considering that Perez is in a clear second driver role in a team completely build around Max in a car tailored to Max' driving style, Perez should always get a higher rating as Max whenever he manages to beat Max.
Perez not only won the race, as a second driver in his team, he also scored the pole position. Personally I don't think either Perez or Max did anything special to even deserve an 8 because imho they both just delivered a normal performance considering the competitive advantage of their car over other cars. I would give Perez a 7.5, maybe 8 because he won from pole (but then Alonso managed to beat him at the start) and Max a 7. Max only finished 2nd because of the pace car, he would have been behind Alonso without the pace car, he was over 20 seconds behind Alonso when the pace car came so Max wasn't doing anything special in Jeddah 7 seems more appropriate.

 

Tsunoda was very strong in Jeddah. Surely that was an 8/10 drive from Yuki, Autosport even gave him a 9 but you just gave him a 7 which is what you gave to most drivers. That's reaaly not correct at all imho. Seems like you were rating tghe car and not driver performance there. They way Yuki defended against Magnussen in a slower car was also pretty great, taking much better lines as Kevin. Even is he did lose that 10th place in the end it certainly was one of the drives of the day.
Yuki also drove a pretty strong race in Bahrein, he seems to have made a step forward this year.

Edited by William Hunt, 25 March 2023 - 21:08.

[MikeTekRacing]

Drive the fastest lap and lead the championship?

Not getting a FL - bang, 7.5.
He’s racing f*** Max, thr best driver on the grid

[Lights]

I found this one especially tricky due to certain FIA decisions and rules, but here we go.

 

Edited by Lights, 07 April 2023 - 07:47.

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