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[Collombin]

Though Prost still would have won if he hadn't clipped that barrier like quite a lot of other drivers (did it move or something?)

Senna said one of the walls had moved to cause his impact with it. Pat Symonds said he went to check and was astounded to find that Senna was right. Not sure of how exactly he knew that the movement had come from an earlier impact rather than Senna's, but that's a moot point - the blocks could indeed move.

[ensign14]

And good old Ghinzani was 5th.  Which makes it the Best Race Ever.

[Collombin]

Stirling Moss at Monaco in 1956 perhaps? It was a scrappy race from Fangio but Moss was ahead of him all the way through and the Ferrari appeared faster than the Maserati

Moss and the 250F were quite the marriage - he was the most successful 250F driver, and it was his most successful car. But it was rarely if ever the best car, albeit apparently an all-time favourite of everyone who drove it. Definitely a bit of a strange race from Fangio though.

[Sterzo]

Moss and the 250F were quite the marriage - he was the most successful 250F driver, and it was his most successful car. But it was rarely if ever the best car, albeit apparently an all-time favourite of everyone who drove it. Definitely a bit of a strange race from Fangio though.

Fifties Maseratis tended to handle better, Ferraris to be more powerful. So that might have been a factor at Monaco.

[Collombin]

Fifties Maseratis tended to handle better, Ferraris to be more powerful. So that might have been a factor at Monaco.

Yes, and Fangio won Monaco in a 250F as well of course. But across a whole season, clearly the Mercs were the class of 1954/5, probably the Lanc...er, Ferraris in 1956, and in 1957 it was perhaps Fangio who made the difference against Ferrari and the Vanwalls (who certainly seemed to have the edge on the faster tracks). Would that be a fair if simplistic summary?

[PayasYouRace]

Senna said one of the walls had moved to cause his impact with it. Pat Symonds said he went to check and was astounded to find that Senna was right. Not sure of how exactly he knew that the movement had come from an earlier impact rather than Senna's, but that's a moot point - the blocks could indeed move.

Not sure how they’ve move other than from a racing car hitting them.

 

Though at least Senna’s claim is a good argument for drivers being able to stay within track limits. Actually, I’m always impressed at how consistently accurate top racing drivers can be. Compare to, say, tennis players. A professional tennis player should never fail on a serve, and yet, they do all the time.

[ClubmanGT]

Only one mention of Panis in 1996? Surely that has to be the high watermark of 'wait, what?' in that era?

 

The close but not quite effort of Hill in Hungary and the pub quiz stumper of Winkelhock are honorable mentions.

[LittleChris]

Peterson Monza 1976. F2 car with DFV bolted on . Aided by some drizzle to help cool the brakes but fought off Scheckter, Depailler etc who were rarely more than a couple of seconds behind pretty much the whole way. Reminded me of Moss versus the Ferraris at Monaco in 1961

Edited by LittleChris, 05 July 2024 - 07:35.

[PlatenGlass]

Not sure how they’ve move other than from a racing car hitting them.

Though at least Senna’s claim is a good argument for drivers being able to stay within track limits. Actually, I’m always impressed at how consistently accurate top racing drivers can be. Compare to, say, tennis players. A professional tennis player should never fail on a serve, and yet, they do all the time.

If F1 drivers had two goes at every corner, you might see a few more crashes!

[PayasYouRace]

If F1 drivers had two goes at every corner, you might see a few more crashes!

They usually get 50 to 60 goes at every corner.

[George Costanza]

Not sure how they’ve move other than from a racing car hitting them.

Though at least Senna’s claim is a good argument for drivers being able to stay within track limits. Actually, I’m always impressed at how consistently accurate top racing drivers can be. Compare to, say, tennis players. A professional tennis player should never fail on a serve, and yet, they do all the time.

Because it's literally life or death back then when racing in F1 surely.

Edited by George Costanza, 05 July 2024 - 23:57.