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Poll: What are you looking forward to most in Jakarta? (8 member(s) have cast votes)

What are you looking forward to most in Jakarta?

  1. Porsche fighting back (1 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  2. Jaguar keeping the success flowing (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Unexpected success from someone else (2 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  4. Some great racing and an enthusiastic crowd (2 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  5. Drivers battling the heat and humidity (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. A track shaped like a horse puppet (3 votes [37.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

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#1 Ben1445

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Posted 01 June 2023 - 16:46

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WELCOME. 

 

We are now firmly into the second half of the Formula E season, with rounds 10 and 11 taking place this weekend in Jakarta, Indonesia, a city of 10,000,000 inhabitants lying on the north-west coast of Java, the world's most populous island. We head to the Ancol Beach region of the city, where the Jakarta International ePrix Circuit is located. It’s a purpose built facility, though looks a lot like a typical street circuit. Yes, that is a little bit strange, but it was praised by the drivers last time out for nicely blending he challenge and aesthetic of Formula E's usual rough and ready venue with the feel and flow of a clean sheet race track design.

 

(And if you do really want to see them racing on a 'proper' permanent road course, they’re racing at Portland International Raceway at the end of the month... yes, that Portland.... )

 

A Formula E Success Story
The inaugural Jakarta ePrix made a bit of a splash last year, with even some series officials being caught out by the response and the level of interest throughout the city. The race was a talking point for months ahead of the event, and the construction of the semi-permanent, purpose built venue was followed in near-daily updates with drone shots from a popular local YouTube channel.

FE’s chief media officer, Aarti Dabas, knew from relatives in the country that the event was a making waves. “We realised that with the government backing, everybody in the streets, it felt like a massive sport had arrived. There were team buses going past and people were waving on the streets, it was completely different, it felt like a football World Cup.”

The race itself was broadcast on Indonesia’s largest free-to-air TV network, and pulled in 13.4 million viewers on TV, with 60,000 in attendance on the ground watching Mitch Evans outfox Jean Eric Vergne for the win. Discussions about a follow up event got underway fairly swiftly, and the city asked to be a double header event. Which leads us right here, in this weekend…
 
Story of the Season (….so far) 
Far from the seemingly random nature of seasons past, this first year has had a clear championship narrative and title favourites emerge, and it comes in the form of Porsche vs Jaguar. These two are thought to have the best powertrains on the grid, and both teams have seen success from both their works and customer entires. 
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 The season started well for Porsche, with dominant performances in Mexico and Diriyah, plus a stunning overtake by Da Costa on Vergne for the win in Cape Town. It took Jaguar powertrains until Round 6 in São Paulo to find their feet, and have been barely looked back since, with either Mitch Evans (Jaguar) or Nick Cassidy (Envision) coming away victorious. Porsche's early form seems to have slipped out of their grasp in recent races, sometimes through mistakes such as when both  Pascal Wehrlein and Da Costa getting their braking zones all wrong and missed out on stronger results in Cape Town and São Paulo, but other times though no fault of their own like when Porsche-customer Andretti driver Jake Dennis lost control in Berlin and wiped out Da Costa in the process. 

 

Momentum very much appears to be with Nick Cassidy at the moment. He’s been by far the most consistent through the season so far, and has been more than happy to lead races when everyone else around him says ‘no one wants to lead’. He pushes to the front, defends track position and waits until it is too late for the chasing pack to easily pass him. It’s netted him the championship lead… can he keep it up?

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The Circuit 

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The Races
Something a little different happening for this double header. Race 1 on Saturday will be 36 laps (85.3 km) whilst Race 2 on Sunday will be 38 laps (90.0 km). 
 
Attack Mode total time is also increased from 4 minutes to 8, and must be used twice. Drivers may select for an activation to last 2, 4 or 6 minutes, so long as which ever they choose at app to the 8 minutes. 
 
Also looks like we’re seeing another reduction in energy allocation, with the net energy allowance of 36 kWh being enforced for both races in this event, thought to be related to the extreme heat and humidity expected. This means 1 kWh per lap in Race 1 and 0.95 kW per lap in Race 2. 

 

Some Driver and Commentary Changes 

André Lotterer is standing aside for Jakarta, something to do with preparations for some big race in France apparently, and in his place we will see the debut of Porsche test and development driver David Beckmann taking seat for Andretti. 

 

Oliver Rowland is also stepping out of the Mahindra seat, completing the slow but stead drain of Olivers from the grid from an all time high of three last season, and will be replaced by Roberto Mehri, the first Spaniard on the FE grid since Jaime Alguersuari and Antonia Garcia started the 2015 Moscow ePrix ... how times change... 

 

Starting this weekend and for the rest of the season, veteran commentator Bed Edwards is stepping up as lead commentator for reasons you should visit a different thread for. He should be joined in the commentary booth this weekend by Karun Chandhok

 
The Timetable 
Friday 2nd June 
Free Practice 1 .... 15:30 (09:30 BST) 
Saturday 3rd June 
Free Practice 2 …. 08:10 (02:10 BST) 
Qualifying: ………… 10:40 (04:40 BST) 
Race 1 (36 laps) .. 15:00 (09:00 BST) 
Sunday 4th June
Free Practice 3 …. 08:10 (02:10 BST) 
Qualifying: ………… 10:40 (04:40 BST) 
Race 1 (38 laps) .. 15:00 (09:00 BST)


Edited by Ben1445, 01 June 2023 - 16:47.


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#2 thegamer23

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Posted 01 June 2023 - 17:18

The "track shaped like a horse puppet" option killed me  :lol: 

Great op!!

I'll catch up with all of the action on sunday evening, i'll be out for a trip this weekend.

So...i'll make my Race Predictions:  :smoking:

 

Race 1: Mitch Evans (Jaguar)
Race 2: Nick Cassidy (Envision)


Should be a weekend where reliability issues could happen due to the extreme heat & humidity: also, rain is forecasted sometime during Sunday, so Race 2 could be quite a different story from Saturday's one.


Edited by thegamer23, 01 June 2023 - 17:22.


#3 MattK9

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Posted 01 June 2023 - 20:46

Great op.
I hope porsche can fight back and we have a real multi team/multi engine manufacturers fighting for the title.

Interesting that the two races are different lengths. With less energy allowance then previously. We can see how this will go!

#4 Ben1445

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 07:21

Kicking off the weekend now with FP1 and the Preview Show -  Live in 30 minutes ish 

 



#5 Ben1445

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 08:35

FP1 session is live

#6 RSRally

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 09:02

DS powertrains looking good.

#7 Ben1445

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 09:16

I do really like this track, lots of space and good flow.

#8 Ben1445

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 10:23

DS Automobiles' 100th ePrix livery 

 

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#9 Ben1445

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 11:14

Slightly topical detour here (with FE being in Jakarta and a possible A1GP revival bid on the cards) as we wait for Saturday's track action. 

 

Another semi-permanent street circuit was built in the Lippo Village region of the city for the 2008-09 A1GP season though wasn't ready in time to debut that year, after which A1GP ceased operations. The track was used for local events but ceased to be used as a racing circuit after 2012. What's incredible to me is how quickly the abandoned track has become overgrown and otherworldly. This year, Google StreetView has added images from the first few corners of the track, allowing us to explore this section of track and imagine what could have been... 

 

This comparison of Turn 3 from a local touring car event from sometime around 2009-11 really does show just how much it has changed since then. 

 

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This immediately got me thinking about what this venue might look like, either after a good few years of racing there (as we might hope for) or if FE were to move elsewhere. So I pulled these onboards from the same place on the track two years apart, noting the trees on drivers left which were newly planted last year and have now had a year to grow. Very small thing but, yes... yes, this is how I sometimes spend my free time...   :stoned:

 

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#10 Ben1445

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Posted 02 June 2023 - 21:35

Up next at a pretty horrid time of the morning for Europeans is FP2 

 



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Posted 02 June 2023 - 21:45

Horrid for you, but 9pm evening entertainment for me with a double of rye after dinner.



#12 juicy sushi

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 01:06

RIght, let's see what FP2 brings.  Will be fun to if the Stellantis pace holds or the others make bigger gains.



#13 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 03:40

Quali1 has started.



#14 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 03:44

210-points-weekend this one, an individual maximum of 58 for grabs.



#15 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 03:48

Bird tailwhipping that wall pretty nicely.



#16 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 03:51

Final runs for Group A.



#17 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 03:52

Tcktum P3 for now.



#18 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 03:54

Cassidy out and Frijns shock quarter finalist.

2 DS Penskes and Dennis the other ones from this group.



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Posted 03 June 2023 - 03:56

2 thousandths of a sec between Nick and Robin.



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#20 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:01

Pascal looking to bounce back.



#21 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:06

Günther and Wehrlein seem to be in a league of their own right now.



#22 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:08

Final runs in this group stage.

Right now Gue-Weh-Eva-DaC as the top-4.


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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:11

No Jags, both Works and Envisions, in the Duels.



#24 Ben1445

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:12

Very interesting groups

Porsche fight back may be starting

#25 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:12

Rast and Mortara massive improvements from their first runs.



#26 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:16

Very interesting groups

Porsche fight back may be starting

I'd welcome it.



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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:17

Both DS-Penskes and Maseratis are up against each other.



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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:18

I'd be more surprised if JEV takes this one than the other way around.



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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:20

What can I say, I like surprises. :lol:



#30 Ben1445

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:21

I’m pleased with that, mainly since I had JEV down in my predictor vote

I’ve gone with Dennis for this one

#31 Ben1445

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:23

Dennis vs Vergne is harder to call

#32 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:27

Yeah, indeed. But I'll go for Dennis.



#33 Ben1445

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:28

Successful clean sweep for me for the Quarter Finals in predictor vote

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:28

I’m going Vergne and Günther

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:31

I’m pleased with that, mainly since I had JEV down in my predictor vote

I’ve gone with Dennis for this one

Your 'predictor vote'. Does that mean your vote is one that make up those numbers they show before the respective Duel? And are they part of a larger thing, maybe some kind of fan competition?



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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:37

Max and Pascal were nip and tuck, and head and shoulders above the rest (in terms of FE), in all of their runs in the Group. But I like to tell the narrative of a reinvigorated Pascal in a bid to take back the initiative in the title battle.

So that makes Dennis VS Wehrlein for me.



#37 Ben1445

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:38

Your 'predictor vote'. Does that mean your vote is one that make up those numbers they show before the respective Duel? And are they part of a larger thing, maybe some kind of fan competition?

Yep, both of these things. They show the fan predictions on the broadcast abs you score points for being correct. There’s race by race tallies and a season long score. Not sure if there’s any kind of prize for highest scores other than personal pride but…

Ultimately seems to be the fan engagement replacement for FanBoost, which seems to be a massive improvement

#38 Ben1445

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:39

Ohhh got that one wrong! Well done to Dennis

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:43

Günther has always been good with one lap pace and also energy management in the races

…less so keeping the car on the track and in one piece

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#40 Ben1445

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:47

Definitely an interesting hypothesis that the Porsches might be happier in hotter weather than the Jagaurs

Might have to dig into the data on that one

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:52

Would bode well for them, with all of the remaining race on the northern hemisphere during summertime.



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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:52

.353s BOOM. That's massive.



#43 eab

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:53

SuperMax.



#44 Ben1445

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:56

Good for Maserati, they’ve not had an amazing season so far

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 04:59

Ayy, not a bad qualifying for the ABT team - certainly compared to their powertrain provider Mahindra who sweep up the final grid slots

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 05:00

So both the Porsche and the DS powertrains have performed mega. Occupy the whole top-6. Da Costa slightly off, but he'll come good during the race I reckon. Can't fault Beckmann.

Aim can't be anything else than to hammer a big blow to the Jag-powered teams.



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Posted 03 June 2023 - 05:02

Ayy, not a bad qualifying for the ABT team - certainly compared to their powertrain provider Mahindra who sweep up the final grid slots

Yeah, Mahindra seem to be going through some difficult times.



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Posted 03 June 2023 - 06:09

How long later is the race? 



#49 Ben1445

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 06:18

First race of the weekend coming up at 9 am UK time, which is about 1h45 after this post. Should be 45ish minutes of fun. 

 

For UK viewers here's the Channel 4 Sport YouTube link for streaming, but if that's not your jam it will also be broadcast live on Channel 4. Coverage starts at 8:30

 



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Posted 03 June 2023 - 06:21

How long later is the race? 

Race will be at 9:04 BST, so in less than 1h45m from now.