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Formula E in JAKARTA - Double Header Weekend


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Poll: What are you looking forward to most in Jakarta? (8 member(s) have cast votes)

What are you looking forward to most in Jakarta?

  1. Porsche fighting back (1 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  2. Jaguar keeping the success flowing (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Unexpected success from someone else (2 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  4. Some great racing and an enthusiastic crowd (2 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  5. Drivers battling the heat and humidity (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. A track shaped like a horse puppet (3 votes [37.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

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#151 eab

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:46

Stoffel plummeting down the order.



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#152 Jellyfishcake

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:46

Vandoornes placement doesn't seem as good, he lost out in T1 with not the great positioning after a good start,

and now he's just getting shuffled out down from 4th to 10th 



#153 Ben1445

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:47

Picture-in-picture replays yo, come on.

It's weird cause they were doing them a lot more earlier in the season 



#154 Ben1445

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:49

2 more laps 

 

Eyes on Evans/Wehrlein 



#155 eab

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:50

16.6s Günther on Evans in 3rd. Surreal.



#156 Ben1445

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:50

Uh oh - Max wants fastest lap 



#157 RSRally

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:50

Geunther wants fastest lap!

#158 Ben1445

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:52

Imperious from Günther 



#159 Disgrace

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:52

Gunther, such a frustrating driver. Happy for the Maserati team though.



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#160 Disgrace

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:53

Great result for Nissan too. McLaren by contrast have gone backwards all year.



#161 Ben1445

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:56

First official Maserati single seater win since Fangio's 1957 victory at the Nürburgring, apparently 

 

Little more complicated than that if you want to dig into the details but that'll be the marketing line 



#162 RSRally

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:56

Brilliant job by Gunther and Maserati.

That was an enjoyable race too, despite more energy limited it wasn't too extreme.

It must be a very complicated job for FE to decide on energy allowances and lap count to ensure overtaking and a tactical battle without going so far that people don't want to lead. They got it right this weekend for sure.

As noted, Edwards did a good job. If he wants the gig full time that's fine by me.

#163 Ben1445

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 08:58

That was an enjoyable race too, despite more energy limited it wasn't too extreme.

It must be a very complicated job for FE to decide on energy allowances and lap count to ensure overtaking and a tactical battle without going so far that people don't want to lead. They got it right this weekend for sure.

Agree. I think this weekend might have been experimental on this front and hopefully quite informative. It's a moving target which varies from circuit to circuit and hopefully they get good at pitching it just right. 

 

Today was good. 



#164 MattK9

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 09:04

It was a pack race in the beginning but crucially Dennis and Gunther were able to pull a gap to the rest of the field.

#165 Ben1445

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 09:06

Interesting that there seemed to be more people in the grandstands today compared to yesterday 



#166 Ben1445

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 09:08

Piquet Jr not at all impressed by Cassidy's day-ending manoeuvre 



#167 Ben1445

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 09:18

Up next... Formula E goes all IndyCar with a visit to Portland 



#168 RSRally

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 09:24

Interesting Cassidy interview lol

#169 Ben1445

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 16:05

Interestingly, the first race (36 laps) was won at an average speed of 120.8 kph, whilst the second race (38 laps) was won at an average speed of 120.2 kph.

That’s not a huge difference, despite the not insignificant reduction in energy allocation.

#170 Bliman

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Posted 04 June 2023 - 16:19

Vandoornes placement doesn't seem as good, he lost out in T1 with not the great positioning after a good start,

and now he's just getting shuffled out down from 4th to 10th 

 

The reason why he lost those places is because he had a problem with the suspension due to contact with another driver.



#171 thegamer23

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 08:14

Just managed to watch all the weekend's action, after spending 3 days in Misano getting sunburnt and watching Bautista trashing the field in Superbike!
 

One of the cleanest, most straightforward & enjoyable weekends of the season so far to my eyes.  :up:  

Jakarta track delivered once again a set of very good races, with a clear picture of the fastest drivers on track, good battles all around the field and a not exaggerated energy-saving racing dynamic.

Great weekend for Max Gunther who gets redemption after a very though start of the season, and the first ever victory for Maserati in Formula E!  :clap: 
Wehrlein comes back at the top as well with an outstanding pefromance in Race 1 and a solid effort in Race 2.
Dennis grabs two podiums to climb back up to P2 in the overall.

 

Evans not far off, despite being punted by Sam Bird AGAIN. That's unaccettable from the brit, and if i were Jaguar's team boss, i'd have a big talk with him about his future, and probably would prevent any on-track battle between these two in the final races of the season.

Big loser of the weeknd is Cassidy, who only gets a minor point finish in Race 1 and 0 points in race 2, with a rookie mistake that i wasn't expecting by him.

Another talking point is: what's happening to Mahindra? From getting the first Gen 3 pole in Mexico to these kind of performances at the very back of the field. 

Talking about the new voice of Formula E, Ben Edwards: i like him very much!  :up: 
It's a different style from Jack Nicholls, obviously, but he definetely brings something unique, and there's a good dynamic between him and Karun Chandock.


So...i think all positives coming out from Jakarta, for a Gen 3 debut season that could really become a classic in the final 3 races.

3 races: Portland, Rome, London, and 3 realistic championship contenders, with Wehrlein, Dennis, Cassidy (and i'd put Evans in there too). 

Bring it on the final part of the season!   :clap:

Portland, next stop. Could be a classic race in what's maybe the very first traditional track that Formula E is going to tackle on.

 

 

Race 1 Highlights

 

Race 2 Highlights

 

 


Edited by thegamer23, 05 June 2023 - 08:26.


#172 Ben1445

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 10:13

Interestingly, that win for Günther means he has 4 career wins in FE (from 59 starts), which is one more than last season’s champion Stoffel Vandoorne (3 wins from 64 starts).

Edited by Ben1445, 05 June 2023 - 10:15.


#173 eab

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 11:56

How did you get at 59 resp 64 starts? I have it 62 (63 entries; didn't make the start once because of a crash) resp 66.

 

But yeah, an interesting, cool stat. And not surprising at the same time. Reaffirming their image.



#174 Ben1445

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 14:59

How did you get at 59 resp 64 starts? I have it 62 (63 entries; didn't make the start once because of a crash) resp 66.

Honestly, I just pulled the figures from the List of Formula E Driver Records page on Wikipedia. Entirely possible that they're not perfectly accurate/up to date, plus I misinterpreted entries as starts. 



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Posted 07 June 2023 - 08:53

Gen3 vs Gen2 Qualy lap (sorry, don't know how to embed)

https://twitter.com/...h9-c5aPp0w&s=19