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[Roadhouse]

 

Bit gutted about this one, as we're going on holiday to Scotland next week and we'll literally drive past Goodwood after arriving in Dover. Next year though, next year...

[southernstars]

Goodwood's on the bucket list. One day...

[DogEarred]

Weather forecast is not the best for the whole weekend though.

[SophieB]

It’s a great day out. I went in 2012 and saw, amongst other things, the Ferrari lads just casually let a little kid sit in the cockpit of the actual racing car that Mark Gene was later driving around. I thought that was incredibly cool of them.

[Roadhouse]

Don't know why they're putting up a smoky Dutch flag, but cheers anyway!

[balmybaldwin]

Weather forecast is not the best for the whole weekend though.

Yes, if you are going, make sure you know where your towing eye is in your car and be nice to the volunteers that pull you out of the car park!

[jonpollak]

Oh Dear...

 

 

Jp

[balmybaldwin]

its gone... what happened?

[FLB]

its gone... what happened?

 

Watch Hyundai RN22e Crash Hard At Goodwood After Missing Turn (insideevs.com)

[balmybaldwin]

Ouch.

[krapmeister]

Incident filled first day at Goodwood, a wheel came off an old Jaguar and bounced into the crowd as well. Thankfully it appears that no one was seriously injured - looked scary as hell though!

https://imgur.io/RvW1PR6

Edited by krapmeister, 13 July 2023 - 22:24.

[ensign14]

Whoever is responsible for arranging the access routes this year needs to be fired.  From a cannon.  Into a wall.

 

Smacks of someone having retired and someone coming in saying "I know how to deal with this far better" and ends up trying to put 50,000 cars on one road.  With broken traffic lights.

 

Absolute shitshow.  My normal 3-ish hour journey was nearer 6.  Mostly down to the last 5 miles taking 2 hours. 

[Mat13]

Whoever is responsible for arranging the access routes this year needs to be fired. From a cannon. Into a wall.

Smacks of someone having retired and someone coming in saying "I know how to deal with this far better" and ends up trying to put 50,000 cars on one road. With broken traffic lights.

Absolute shitshow. My normal 3-ish hour journey was nearer 6. Mostly down to the last 5 miles taking 2 hours.

Try living in the area…

[Roadhouse]

Incident filled first day at Goodwood, a wheel came off an old Jaguar and bounced into the crowd as well. Thankfully it appears that no one was seriously injured - looked scary as hell though!

https://imgur.io/RvW1PR6

 

 

It really is a matter of time isn't it. 

[southernstars]

 

It really is a matter of time isn't it. 

 

Especially with the hill as wet as it is today. Some of those ancient cars were getting very sideways.

[IrvTheSwerve]

Incident filled first day at Goodwood, a wheel came off an old Jaguar and bounced into the crowd as well. Thankfully it appears that no one was seriously injured - looked scary as hell though!

https://imgur.io/RvW1PR6

 

Blimey.

 

I said this last year (and I don't want to be a killjoy by any means) but watching the speeds that some of the cars are doing now up the hill (e.g. the McMurtry)...it seems crazy that there are literally some haybales, a single crowd guardrail and nothing else between the track and crowd. I always wince a bit watching some of the quick runs.

 

I know it's become a bit of an exhibition rather than a competition and we have had quick runs up the hill in the past, but it just seems inconsistent with modern day track safety.

[Roadhouse]

Travis Pastrana's run honestly made me wince most, you don't want an adrenaline junky on the limit and it did not look like he left anything on the table. Those bales work well as long as cars stay planted, we got a potential massacre on our hands when they don't.

I do still really want to go there though, but will pick our spot carefully.

[southernstars]

I said this last year (and I don't want to be a killjoy by any means) but watching the speeds that some of the cars are doing now up the hill (e.g. the McMurtry)...it seems crazy that there are literally some haybales, a single crowd guardrail and nothing else between the track and crowd. I always wince a bit watching some of the quick runs.

 

On the stream they showed the McMurty's timed run from last year and I could barely watch it. It's too damn fast for so little protection. This year even just the show run was still wildly quick.

[jonpollak]

And on top of that …… Max Chilton !!
Jp

[Red5ive]

Goodwood FOS is a great day out....

 

 

..............unless its raining.

[balmybaldwin]

Sounds like they may cancel tomorrow.  I think because of high winds and potential damage to trees.

https://www.facebook...641167781379794

 

I know the hay bales don't look like great protection, but having been quite a few times I think they aren't as bad as they look on TV.  Firstly they aren't normal size haybales and secondly the distance of the crowd is quite far in the high risk areas. I'd estimate each one is around quater of a ton, more than a meter high, and therefore provide a significant distribution of energy. I've seen a few crashes on the corner the hyundai went off on yesterday, every time the cars stop with a couple of rows of bales left un touched.   I think the biggest worry with them would be fire.

 

For most cars I think they are fairly well covered as it's single car runs which are less likely to launch anything, however i really don't think the stadium trucks or any of the big 4x4/dakar rally stuff should be allowed e.g. an Xtreme E car could well go over the bales rather than in to them.

 

The Rally stage is also pretty good safety wise. It's very hard to get into the "firing zone" but can get a really good close look.

 

One of the really different things about Goodwood is the access to get close to the cars and the action. I would rather it was made non competitive than have fences up... it's one of the few places in the world you get to photograph these cars at speed without the haze of a fence

 

 

 

(I'm a local and was volunteering there today ready to tow people who needed it out of the carpark)

Edited by balmybaldwin, 14 July 2023 - 20:49.

[ensign14]

Officially cancelled tomorrow. 

[IrvTheSwerve]

Officially cancelled tomorrow. 

Bummer. First time it’s happened.

[Peat]

As there's nothing on today, let's learn the difference between Hay & Straw. While often used interchangeably by non-agricultural folk, they are actually quite different: 

Hay - This is grass that's cut and baled prior to a seed head forming, meaning the cut leaf is full of nutrients. It's used as winter animal feed and is therefore quite a valuable commodity. ~£75/tonne*

 

Straw - This is the stem of cereal crops such as barley, wheat or oats. This is effectively a waste product from harvesting the seed heads (grain) but is mainly used as indoor winter bedding for farm animals.  ~£45/tonne*

*Straw is dry and hollow, whereas hay is more solid with a higher moisture content. So each bale is denser/heavier. 10 tonnes of straw is more bales than 10 tonnes of hay. 

TLDR - The bales at Goodwood are Straw, not Hay. 

 

They are often mixed up:

 

 

Armed with this crucial knowledge, now you too can can impress your friends every time they misidentify baled fodder. You're welcome. 

[Mat13]

If you want to get really nerdy, the bales used at Goodwood are 120x90s- in that they are 90cm tall, and 120cm wide. They’re made by a ‘six-stringer’ baler that runs six lengths of twine around each bale, meaning more straw can be packed into the same size package. Depending on bale length (usually 8ft in straw), a straw bale can range from 450-560kg in weight- the ones at Goodwood will be heavier than that though, because they’ve spent the last year sat outside so are bloody wet. Once used, the bales are then sent to the biomass boiler- it burns the bales and creates hot water for Goodwood house.

[Peat]

Top info. I had assumed they used new bales every year as they always look (from the tele) quite fresh. Do they use them for a few years each then?

[Mat13]

They certainly used to, depending on the state of them- I wonder if they use fresh ones every year now they have the boiler to fill. Even if they’re fresh though, they’re from last years harvest so are pretty much a year old.

[Risil]

THANK YOU

[F1matt]

Does Goodwood have to be sanctioned by Motorsport UK or any governing body or isn't it technically a motorsport event? 

[midgrid]

Sounds like we need the Crimson Haybailer to make an appearance...

[ensign14]

That always pissed me off in Wacky Races.

 

IT'S A ****ing PLANE NOT A CAR

[cpbell]

Incident filled first day at Goodwood, a wheel came off an old Jaguar and bounced into the crowd as well. Thankfully it appears that no one was seriously injured - looked scary as hell though!

https://imgur.io/RvW1PR6

Nasty stuff.

[Risil]

That always pissed me off in Wacky Races.

IT'S A FUCKING PLANE NOT A CAR

CHEATING

[pup]

That always pissed me off in Wacky Races.

IT'S A ****ing PLANE NOT A CAR

A plane, with a machine gun mounted to the nose - you’d think that would raise an eyebrow or two with the stewards. But things were different under Moseley.

Edited by pup, 15 July 2023 - 14:17.

[PayasYouRace]

Sounds like we need the Crimson Haybailer to make an appearance...
 

 

Or should it have been the Strawbailer?

[Mat13]

This is the only baler you need.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=LwGYHFy59fY

Sorry, it’s really nerdy, but people in agriculture love this stuff. And get very emotional about whether that is the only baler you need, or if actually it’s rubbish and you need another one that does the same but in a very slightly different way. Or colour.

Edited by Mat13, 15 July 2023 - 21:27.

[Peat]

Fancy!

[Red5ive]

So Goodwood didnt get flattened in the storms yesterday then.

 

Maybe there were some snowflakes around....

[Collombin]

Getting hit by an unleashed marquee wouldn't have been fun.

Still, looks like I made the right call in giving it a miss this year. It's last week's Brooklands Tyrrell event that I regret missing.

[southernstars]

It's a nice day today though. The only real clouds have been of the tyre smoke.

 

Mick looked like he was having some fun in the W12. Now the Lotus parade is going on (Lotii?)

[krapmeister]

Molecomb claiming a couple of expensive victims today

[southernstars]

Someone just binned that beautiful Lleyton House into the hay bales and wrecked it entirely 

[Thursday]

Someone just binned that beautiful Lleyton House into the hay bales and wrecked it entirely 

Nah, just bent it a bit.

https://imgur.com/a/lalPuvw#0Zh0Ek4

I think it is this corner where people have said that if you wait until you can see the entry to brake, you have left it too late.

[ensign14]

Good job I got it on Thursday then.

 

 

(this was also the worst year yet for people standing right next to cars without doing anything constructive like looking at them, often to talk to people on their phones asking them where they were, and judging by the accents they were almost entirely from Essex)

[Myrvold]

Someone just binned that beautiful Lleyton House into the hay bales and wrecked it entirely 

 

They're built to be used. It happens, but better than seeing it covered in dust in a barn somewhere.

Edited by Myrvold, 16 July 2023 - 12:32.

[Thursday]

Good job I got it on Thursday then.

 

(this was also the worst year yet for people standing right next to cars without doing anything constructive like looking at them, often to talk to people on their phones asking them where they were, and judging by the accents they were almost entirely from Essex)

Please don't tell me FoS has become an event to be seen at rather than enjoy. 

The societal trend for going to events in order to take some pictures for internet clout rather than experiencing it and meeting like minded people is rather saddening.

I've been twice and for me it is all about looking at cars, taking pictures of cars, chatting to the people who work on these cars and chatting to strangers about cars.

[Collombin]

I've been twice and for me it is all about looking at cars, taking pictures of cars, chatting to the people who work on these cars and chatting to strangers about cars.

Largely agree. The cars going up the hill is actually the least interesting element to me, often I ignored them completely.

[Lassel]

Please don't tell me FoS has become an event to be seen at rather than enjoy.

It’s been that way for 20 years now

[JHSingo]

Another car in the bales, a BMW M1 Procar. 

 

Is it me, or does there seem to been an awful lot of incidents this year? More than normal.

[Myrvold]

Another car in the bales, a BMW M1 Procar. 

 

Is it me, or does there seem to been an awful lot of incidents this year? More than normal.

 

Cars being driven harder? If so, I'm all for it!