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#1 Risil

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 18:39

Bienvenue au Portland – quick one to get us underway before practice starts. You know Portland: home of GI Joe’s, Ursula Le Guin, liberal politics, that big mountain in the background. Portland! It’s also home to one of the US West Coast’s premier straights-and-corners natural race tracks, where they used to hold a CART fixture (Jabroc failure, Mark Blundell, Juan Montoya spinning 360 degrees at a restart) and later on an Indycar race (when Scott Dixon essentially won the 2018 championship).

 

The track hasn’t changed – it’s a long and wide pit straight, a narrow and curvy back straight, and some esses and a hairpin at either end. The straight also has a chicane in the middle which I forecast will attract most of the pre-race broadcast’s talking points just as surely as it will attract somebody to leave their braking to the latest possible minute, aim their car at the apex and hope. Possibly at every restart.

 

Championship-wise we are now waiting for points leader Alex Palou to appear at the finish line and claim a second series title. He has in fact not won a race since Mid-Ohio at the beginning of July and while his non-Ganassi rivals are totally out of the picture, double race winner as of last weekend Scott Dixon still has a chance provided his teammate has two terrible weekends and the 74-point deficit can be closed up. By my calculations Palou needs something like a fourth-place finish to wrap up the title even if Dixon makes it three wins in a row. He will probably achieve this. Or he won’t, and he’ll win it at Laguna Seca with an eleventh-place finish and we’ll have to try and summon up some enthusiasm.

 

Any championship interest further back? The battle for third is on after Newgarden’s terrible races at Indy and Gateway have brought him within sight of the winless Pato O’Ward and the still fairly streaky Scott McLaughlin. Speaking of winless, Team Of The Future McLaren are still without one this year, and although Zak Brown may be more irritated that Alex Palou has eluded him, the fact that they haven’t scored something that Andretti Autosport have two of and even Rahal-Letterman-Lanigan have achieved is surely present in that big deal-making brain of his. Oh and Estonia’s Juri Vips, who in the distant past narrowly beat Marcus Armstrong to the German F4 title, is getting a late-season Indycar debut taking over the vacant Rahal seat that Conor Daly kept warm last week. Best keep the radio on mute.

 

Anyway, here’s the schedule. This is Pacific time, Portland being in furthest Oregon, so add on 8 (eight) hours to get to the UK and 9 (nine) for western Europe.

 

Friday, 1 September

1.55pm: Indy NXT practice 1

3.00: Indycar practice 1

4.30: USF2000 race 1

5.30: USF Pro 2000 race 1 (how is this different)

 

Saturday, 2 September

9.00am: Indycar practice 2

10.15: US Touring Car Championship (!!!) race 1

11.20: Indy NXT practice 2

12.30pm: Indycar qualifying

2.15: USF2000 race 2

3.10: USF Pro 2000 race 2

6.00: US Touring Car Championship race 2

 

Sunday, 3 September

10.20am: Indy NXT race

12.30: Indycar race

3.15: USFPro 2000 race 3

4.20: USF2000 race 3

 

Aaaand enjoy! Practice starts in 20 mins!!

 



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#2 PayasYouRace

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 18:42

Obligatory Portland 1997 finish photo:

 

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#3 GlenWatkins

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 18:54

Ursula K Le Guin reference, nice!

#4 paulb

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 18:54

Obligatory Portland 2018 first lap crash photo. Perhaps the greatest Dixon Indycar miracle too.

 

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#5 LolaB0860

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 19:00

4.30: USF2000 race 1

5.30: USF Pro 2000 race 1 (how is this different)

 

 

USF Pro 2000 is Star Mazda and the other one is not

 

The spec Tatuus in Pro is the same spec chassis as in not-Pro but it's mildly more powerful and has some extra bits

 

Yes, the person who rebranded these series (and some goes for NXT) should be fired


Edited by LolaB0860, 01 September 2023 - 19:03.


#6 paulb

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 19:06

:clap:  Me seeing track activity at 1:55.

 

:(  Me remembering I’m on the other coast.


 


Edited by paulb, 01 September 2023 - 19:07.


#7 ezequiel

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 21:01

Indy NXT practice now. Live timing changed Victor Franzoni's name to Franzone


Edited by ezequiel, 01 September 2023 - 21:01.


#8 jonpollak

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 21:52

8 minutes till Practice 1 !!!!

Jp



#9 jonpollak

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 21:54

Ursula K Le Guin reference, nice!

Speculative fiction !!!

VERY Indycar.

 

Jp



#10 potmotr

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 22:31

Has something happened to Barry Wanser from CGR?

 

"Barry has some significant health issues" and is in hospital, according to Leigh Diffey 

 

https://www.instagra...zRlODBiNWFlZA==


Edited by potmotr, 01 September 2023 - 22:33.


#11 jonpollak

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 23:20

VIPS did well.
Jp

#12 paulb

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 23:20

Nice debut by Vips.



#13 loki

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Posted 01 September 2023 - 23:23

Was that a Wanser Big Head with Palou in the last shot?



#14 jonpollak

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 00:04

Whoa,somehow, here's Practice 1 on You Tube ???

 

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#15 paulb

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 00:14

VIPS did well.
Jp

 

Nice debut by Vips.

… brilliant minds think alike.  :kiss:



#16 FLB

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 00:30

Has something happened to Barry Wanser from CGR?

 

"Barry has some significant health issues" and is in hospital, according to Leigh Diffey 

 

https://www.instagra...zRlODBiNWFlZA==

 

He's been operated to remove a carcinoma (skin cancer) and will miss the final two races: Alex Palou trying to clinch IndyCar title with strategist Barry Wanser sidelined last two races - NBC Sports

 

 

Wanser was diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma, a common form of skin cancer. The cancer was caught early and is very curable, according to Wanser. He had surgery on Aug. 30 and is focused on continued treatment and recovery.

Edited by FLB, 02 September 2023 - 00:31.


#17 Afterburner

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 04:52

Awful news about Wanser. Best wishes to him and his family and hopefully they got it before it spread.

#18 rghojai

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 05:24

In better news, I watched practice right after I ate some Bavarian Meats smoked salami.

#19 Frood

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 08:40

In the continuing saga of previously likeable driver continues season arc to become unlikeable...

 

Welcome to IndyCar, Scott. :p



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#20 rghojai

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 08:50

Snotty is so two-faced. Races people real hard and whines when he gets what he gives. And he's a nasty jackass on socials when people reasonably and politely relate as much. It's been surprising to see how childish and unprofessional he is.

#21 B Squared

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 10:37

Snotty is so two-faced. Races people real hard and whines when he gets what he gives. And he's a nasty jackass on socials when people reasonably and politely relate as much. It's been surprising to see how childish and unprofessional he is.

After quite liking Scott early on, he seems to have turned into quite a piece of work. 



#22 red stick

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 11:27

Wait.
Beef among drivers no longer good?

#23 B Squared

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 11:44

Wait.
Beef among drivers no longer good?

Some watch motorsports for things beyond personal soap operas.



#24 FLB

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 11:57

Some watch motorsports for things beyond personal soap operas.

For sure, but feuding between drivers has (nearly!) always been part of it:

 

Barney Oldfield: America’s Racer -- The Henry Ford Blog - Blog - The Henry Ford

 

Oldfield Vs. DePalma | First Super Speedway

 

Barney Oldfield October 2019 - Motor Sport Magazine



#25 B Squared

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 12:01

For sure, but feuding between drivers has (nearly!) always been part of it:

I've been following the sport for 60 years, so this is not something new to me; it just doesn't move the needle for me in deciding to attend or view a motor racing event.



#26 Muppetmad

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 12:06

It strikes me as a sad thing to fight about too. From my recollection of it, I thought Malukas' move was on the edge, and maybe worthy of a few harsh words on the radio, but nothing that couldn't have been handled discreetly after the race.



#27 B Squared

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 12:29

Perhaps fellow Bus Bro, Josef Newgarden, should remind McLaughlin of the tactics used by him at this same track when Newgarden very aggressively passed Pagenaud for the lead and win in Newgarden's first year at Team. This is nothing new, except for the offended party being different.


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#28 FLB

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 12:43

Perhaps fellow Bus Bro, Josef Newgarden, should remind McLaughlin of the tactics used by him at this same track when Newgarden very aggressively passed Pagenaud for the lead and win in Newgarden's first year at Team. This is nothing new, except for the offended party being different.

In McLaughlin's case (with Malukas), I'm willing to cut him some slack this time. I can well imagine some pent-up frustration about this year not going according to plan. He just needs to channel it more contstructively, IMHO.



#29 red stick

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 12:49

Some watch motorsports for things beyond personal soap operas.


Well, that's my tribe as well, but I can walk and chew gum simultaneously.  ;)

Edited by red stick, 02 September 2023 - 14:46.


#30 jonpollak

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 14:05

I’m all for a good ‘Barney’.

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#31 Risil

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 14:25

Perhaps fellow Bus Bro, Josef Newgarden, should remind McLaughlin of the tactics used by him at this same track when Newgarden very aggressively passed Pagenaud for the lead and win in Newgarden's first year at Team. This is nothing new, except for the offended party being different.


A cherished Indycar memory for me. That was such a hard move at such a crucial juncture.

#32 red stick

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 16:16

Lundgaard ahead again in Practice 2.

#33 Lassel

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 16:34

I see ‘prodigiously talented’ Chadwick was 14th out of 17 in practice

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 16:44

In the continuing saga of previously likeable driver continues season arc to become unlikeable...

Welcome to IndyCar, Scott. :p

Malukas sounds like the kid in the Call of Duty lobby who’s succeeding in winding up the guy he’s just beat, which, knowing that Scotty Mac doesn’t handle mouthy kids on Call of Duty well, is only going to cause this to escalate.

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 16:48

Malukas sounds like the kid in the Call of Duty lobby who’s succeeding in winding up the guy he’s just beat, which, knowing that Scotty Mac doesn’t handle mouthy kids on Call of Duty well, is only going to cause this to escalate.

Obviously, Scotty Mac and Little David need further exploration on the next Bus Bros.

 

The former Young American Josef Newgarden can put on his referee uniform.


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#36 red stick

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 16:53

McLaughlin quickest in Practice 2. A little over two and a half hours to qualifying.

#37 ezequiel

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 16:54

I suggest a hot air balloon race around the world to settle things.



#38 jonpollak

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 17:01

Did SkyF1 miss half of Practice 2 or did I fail to set my VCR correctly?

Jp

Edited by jonpollak, 02 September 2023 - 17:56.


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Posted 02 September 2023 - 17:29

ECR looking decent for once. Or at least Veekay is, RHR not so much.

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 17:58

Did SkyF1 miss half of Practice 2 or did I fail to set my VCR correctly?

Jp

 


Yes they were too busy letting Slotover warble on with his nonsense.

#41 jonpollak

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 18:37

Looks like YouTube has the second practice up already.
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#42 FLB

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 18:45

Qualifying in 45 minutes.



#43 potmotr

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 19:10

Why do they need a kerb on the inside at turn one?

Clearly they're allowed to run completely over it, so just have the inside wall?

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 19:20

Why do they need a kerb on the inside at turn one?

Clearly they're allowed to run completely over it, so just have the inside wall?

No idea, but judging from yesterday, somebody is going to clip it again, just like Herta did last year.



#45 paulb

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 19:21

From the looks of Group 1, Group 2 is going to be stacked.



#46 paulb

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 19:32

Aaannnddd here we go.



#47 potmotr

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 19:32

Great circuit this

#48 FLB

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 19:33

Ferrucci goes agricultural.



#49 Anja

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 19:33

Is it a hot take if I say I think this is one of the worst circuits on the calendar?



#50 potmotr

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Posted 02 September 2023 - 19:36

Is it a hot take if I say I think this is one of the worst circuits on the calendar?


I love it! Always an action-packed race.

I just wish the sowed proper grass and watered it regularly, soils make such a difference in terms of presentation.