Trulli-Briatore. Or is that an other type of 'fit'?
Good question. 
Also: thank for all your “likes.” 
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Max Verstappen in 2023: the greatest ever F1 season performance by one driver?
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Posted 01 December 2023 - 22:20
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Posted 01 December 2023 - 22:23
there have been few better "fits" in racing than Clark-Chapman.
That was a very good one.
IMHO, Senna-McLaren/Dennis was at least equal.
Won’t mention another that comes to mind in order not to spoil my good mood. 
Edited by Zmeej, 01 December 2023 - 22:24.
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Posted 02 December 2023 - 07:32
Why? Max has the status of a crasher, while the data shows that he is the person with the least collissions and least amount of car damage since 2018. I will not provide the list of the damages your name driver provided in 2023 alone...
Two Max’s would mean no yielding which means multiple collisions…
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Posted 02 December 2023 - 08:28
OK, not a "free" win but it helped him immensely so the original claim doesn't really hold.
Max passed Charles on track after a penalty. Ferrari did not want to pit Charles because his tires were just 5 laps and it would take too much time to heat making him lose much more time. He was still in the lead with fresh tires. Max came from far behind and took both drivers in front. And somehow Charles tires were still good to fight and overtake Perez. In a Red Bull. That was a lucky win. Sure.
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Posted 02 December 2023 - 10:02
Indeed (replying to F1Frog). I was really just wanting to disabuse the notion that Clark was so successful in spite of Lotus! As is so often the case it was the combination, and there have been few better "fits" in racing than Clark-Chapman.
Stewart-Tyrrell?
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Posted 02 December 2023 - 10:26
Indeed (replying to F1Frog). I was really just wanting to disabuse the notion that Clark was so successful in spite of Lotus! As is so often the case it was the combination, and there have been few better "fits" in racing than Clark-Chapman.
Trying to work out how one of the best drivers of his era could be so successful “in spite” of driving what were consistently the best cars of that era.
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Posted 02 December 2023 - 14:09
Whatever you want to call it. Going back to the original post - the safety car was a misfortune for Leclerc.Max passed Charles on track after a penalty. Ferrari did not want to pit Charles because his tires were just 5 laps and it would take too much time to heat making him lose much more time. He was still in the lead with fresh tires. Max came from far behind and took both drivers in front. And somehow Charles tires were still good to fight and overtake Perez. In a Red Bull. That was a lucky win. Sure.
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Posted 02 December 2023 - 17:55
Only sidereally pertinent to this thread, a title of another one concerning Max (which I find werra myoozing 
), from earlier in his career:
"Is Verstappen really any better than Jean-Éric Vergne?"
https://forums.autos...an-éric-vergne/
