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[Bob Riebe]

https://www.brakefor...-united-states/

 

 

Dodge GTX

Ford Taunaus

 

Nash/IKA Torino

 

Chrysler Valiant Charter R/T

 

Chevrolet Firenza CanAm

 

 

[Vitesse2]

The Taunus above is essentially identical in all but a few details to the UK Ford Cortina Mk3. However, the Taunus was available in a two-door coupé version - which is not the one in the picture. Ford UK never offered a Cortina coupé. The Taunus and Cortina were developed in parallel until both were dropped in 1982.

 

https://www.ftc-gb.o...ope/default.htm

 

I see no mention of a bunch of South African Ford muscle cars - the Capri Perana, the Sierra RX6 and RX8, the Sapphire V8 ...

[Bob Riebe]

The Taunus above is essentially identical in all but a few details to the UK Ford Cortina Mk3. However, the Taunus was available in a two-door coupé version - which is not the one in the picture. Ford UK never offered a Cortina coupé. The Taunus and Cortina were developed in parallel until both were dropped in 1982.

 

https://www.ftc-gb.o...ope/default.htm

 

I see no mention of a bunch of South African Ford muscle cars - the Capri Perana, the Sierra RX6 and RX8, the Sapphire V8 ...

I have seen them listed in other lists with U.S. companies overseas only cars, but this time I decided to post it.

[Ray Bell]

That Valiant Charger could not be an R/T model...

[Gerr]

These are not American cars. This thread title is misleading. 

[Bob Riebe]

That Valiant Charger could not be an R/T model...

Picture came with the article, send them a letter.

[Gerr]

This article is misleading and inaccurate.

Bob Riebe, this thread (with this link) is a waste of time.

You posted the link, you should send them the letter..

[Catalina Park]

This article is misleading and inaccurate.

Bob Riebe, this thread (with this link) is a waste of time.

You posted the link, you should send them the letter..

You should ask for your money back.

[E1pix]

https://www.brakefor...-united-states/
 
 

Dodge GTX

Cool thread, Bob.

This car in particular is really interesting… and unlike any parallel sold in the States.

[Gerr]

Sorry, Catalina Park, I don't understand what you mean. I haven't spent any money. Just some time. Is there a cost monetary cost involved? Please explain..

Thanks.. 

[Lee Nicolle]

That Valiant Charger could not be an R/T model...

Correct, RTs were VH only. That is a Cm.

[Lee Nicolle]

None of those cars are American cars, all manufactured in other countries. Some have a similarity to US models but that is it

Taunus is a Euro Ford,based on a Cortina,  Aussie Charger is ,,, Aussie. Ditto Falcon Coupe. 

Capris are English/ Euro Ford, as is Sierras.

This whole thread is total bullshit.

[Rupertlt1]

Bob Riebe is a valid contributor here, who has introduced drag racing and muscle cars to a new audience. He deserves some respect. From an American perspective he is intrigued by cars produced outside the USA by American-owned companies. What is wrong with that?

 

RGDS RLT

[ensign14]

The Taunus above is essentially identical in all but a few details to the UK Ford Cortina Mk3. However, the Taunus was available in a two-door coupé version - which is not the one in the picture. Ford UK never offered a Cortina coupé.

I'd never heard of the Taunus coupé, and I can see why it wasn't a thing for Britain - looks like a Capri on steroids.  A solution for a problem that did not exist here.

 

 

Looks surprisingly good in seventies brown though.

[10kDA]

Last time I checked, Bob didn't write the article. Did the complainers not get that? I agree, E1pix, the Dodge GTX is pretty cool. If a Demon and a '67 Fairlane had a love child...?

[10kDA]

Further on the writer - the article refers to "flat-4" and "flat-6" engines in some of these cars which I would bet your most recent paycheck actually had inline engines in the mentioned models. Maybe brakeforit dot com is using AI to write the filler for the pics.

[Glengavel]

Bob Riebe is a valid contributor here, who has introduced drag racing and muscle cars to a new audience. He deserves some respect. From an American perspective he is intrigued by cars produced outside the USA by American-owned companies. What is wrong with that?

 

RGDS RLT

 

Because there's little motorsport content? And it is a terrible article.

[10kDA]

I'd never heard of the Taunus coupé, and I can see why it wasn't a thing for Britain - looks like a Capri on steroids.  A solution for a problem that did not exist here.

 

 

Looks surprisingly good in seventies brown though.

>Cough

Cough<

[E1pix]

Bob Riebe is a valid contributor here, who has introduced drag racing and muscle cars to a new audience. He deserves some respect. From an American perspective he is intrigued by cars produced outside the USA by American-owned companies. What is wrong with that?

RGDS RLT

Agreed and well-said Rupert, and Thanks.

I for one have *had it* with that crap. This place could be much more fun without it.

Edit: And now I’ve read the other slams against Bob. What’s wrong with you people?

Sorry, Catalina Park, I don't understand what you mean. I haven't spent any money. Just some time. Is there a cost monetary cost involved? Please explain..
Thanks..

I just heard your Mom call you for dinner, can’t you hear from the basement?

Edited by E1pix, 30 December 2023 - 16:47.

[E1pix]

Last time I checked, Bob didn't write the article. Did the complainers not get that? I agree, E1pix, the Dodge GTX is pretty cool. If a Demon and a '67 Fairlane had a love child...?

Curiously though, it looks more ‘65 GTO than Mopar.

Not my color, but very cool car!

[Bob Riebe]

Last time I checked, Bob didn't write the article. Did the complainers not get that? I agree, E1pix, the Dodge GTX is pretty cool. If a Demon and a '67 Fairlane had a love child...?

Same thought I had about how it looks .

[Bob Riebe]

Bob Riebe is a valid contributor here, who has introduced drag racing and muscle cars to a new audience. He deserves some respect. From an American perspective he is intrigued by cars produced outside the USA by American-owned companies. What is wrong with that?

 

RGDS RLT

Thank you.

[jcbc3]

I don't have a problem with the thread. I do have a problem with this though:

 

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I for one have *had it* with that crap. This place could be much more fun without it.

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I just heard your Mom call you for dinner, can’t you hear from the basement?

 

 

I don't think you should be throwing stones, Epix

[E1pix]

That was the entire point.

Read what he said to get some back. It wasn’t okay in any civil terms, least not for we who just wanna discuss racing.

[Gerr]

E1pix, is this what's bothering you?

 

"This article is misleading and inaccurate.

Bob Riebe, this thread (with this link) is a waste of time.

You posted the link, you should send them the letter.."

 

Looks civil to me.

Maybe you missed the comma after Bob Riebe.

[GreenMachine]

Not getting into the slanging match, but ...

 

Bob, I read that article.  The writing was IMHO sh1thouse, and no way was I clicking on the 'more' button at the end - definitely not up to your usual standards. Feel free to enjoy this stuff, but please be a little more discriminating/precise in your recommendations to us, eg "some nice pics of American-style cars produced outside the USA"

 

I would almost put money on the suggestion above that it was an AI generated text in which case - woe is us. 

 

An even more woe-inducing thought - AI has taken over the 'Bob Reibe' persona       

 

Happy New Year everybody!!

[Charlieman]

I'd never heard of the Taunus coupé, and I can see why it wasn't a thing for Britain - looks like a Capri on steroids.  A solution for a problem that did not exist here.

There was a Granada Mk 1 coupé which made it to the UK. Thankfully we didn't see too many. I'd like to blame the Germans for it, but who wants to know what happened in Essex. 

[Bob Riebe]

Not getting into the slanging match, but ...

 

Bob, I read that article.  The writing was IMHO sh1thouse, and no way was I clicking on the 'more' button at the end - definitely not up to your usual standards. Feel free to enjoy this stuff, but please be a little more discriminating/precise in your recommendations to us, eg "some nice pics of American-style cars produced outside the USA"

 

I would almost put money on the suggestion above that it was an AI generated text in which case - woe is us. 

An even more woe-inducing thought - AI has taken over the 'Bob Reibe' persona       

Happy New Year everybody!!

For what it is worth:

I have read articles on pre-nineties cars from major rags , Hot Rod, Vintage Motosport for familiar names, where it is obvious the writer has zero knowledge about the vehicles, or time period, and is just mimicking what he has been told by some also ignorant source,  as it is mostly  Bollocks.

 

I am not going to play editor for articles online (though on rare occasions I have done so) as automobiles from overseas I have knowledge in the past from subscribling to British, Australian, New Zealand and South African magazines (most of which are now out of print) and I am not going to make claims when it is all second hand on a good day.

Now one can find information, that  to a U.S. citizen, is both eye opening and simply informative new news, source accuracy, is a crap shoot, to often.

 

If some thing is not enjoyable, stop/ don't read/ing it and move on.

There was a time back in the Buford and Fines days when I would engage in semi-nasty. one on one, exchanges but it made no sense so those days are pretty much gone.

Merry Sixth Day of Christmas and have a Blessed New Year.
 

Edited by Bob Riebe, 31 December 2023 - 01:09.

[E1pix]

Happy New Year, Bob.

[Lee Nicolle]

Bob Riebe is a valid contributor here, who has introduced drag racing and muscle cars to a new audience. He deserves some respect. From an American perspective he is intrigued by cars produced outside the USA by American-owned companies. What is wrong with that?

 

RGDS RLT

What is wrong with it,, the heading for a start. 30 American cars NOT sold in the US. None are American cars start with that. See my other contribution. 

The story he has based it on is wrong in many ways. So has no substance.

[GreenMachine]

Thanks for the reply Bob, and I return your good wishes! 

[ensign14]

What is wrong with it,, the heading for a start. 30 American cars NOT sold in the US. None are American cars start with that. See my other contribution. 

The story he has based it on is wrong in many ways. So has no substance.

Depends on how one defines "American", doesn't it?  American parentco.  Is Volvo a Chinese marque now?  Technically, yes.

 

Certainly nobody seems to consider British-built Toyotas as British...

[Sterzo]

In case it's useful for the historical record, I toured Ford's Dagenham plant in 1971. The workers' language would have left no car in doubt that it came from Essex and no-where more civilised. The torrent of obscenity stopped only when everyone spotted the stunning blonde in our party, and the metal shed echoed with whistles and wolf calls which must have threatened its structural integrity.

[Catalina Park]

In Australia Holden, Ford and Valiant were all Australian, but Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan, VW, BMC/Leyland were all foreign.

[LittleChris]

Was Dagenham part of Essex in 1971 ? Thought it became part of Greater London a few years before

Edited by LittleChris, 31 December 2023 - 11:38.

[Sterzo]

Was Dagenham part of Essex in 1971 ? Thought it became part of Greater London a few years before

It's both. Local government is the Greater London Authority, postal address is Essex.

[10kDA]

For NASCAR's purposes, Toyotas are considered domestic to the US. I suppose some individual units are though some are not.

[E1pix]

I don’t understand the lineage arguments.

The logic is like saying every American, Asian, Australian, or Euro product made in China is now a Chinese product…

We build Toyotas here now, but still consider them Japanese, and give them their well-deserved Kudos for it.