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[ARTGP]

The Alpine lives!

LIVE: Alpine launches 2024 F1 challenger (autosport.com)

 

Edited by ARTGP, 07 February 2024 - 14:00.

[Anja]

Another car with 90% exposed carbon fibre... 

 

Although ironically it's probably the best looking Alpine since A521 

Edited by Anja, 07 February 2024 - 14:06.

[Venom21]

I'm more interested in the WEC car.

[rootten]

they showed last year's car

[ARTGP]

they showed last year's car

 

 

The live stream showed two cars. One car was uncovered in Enstone with the team, and the other in the formal launch with Harman and Famin (the pictures above).  I didn't get a chance to screenshot that other car. 

[grandmastashi]

5/5 black, bare carbon based liveries with highlight colours. The FIA needs to step in on this before Bahrain - it's going to look ridiculous on TV. 

[JHSingo]

Another car with 90% exposed carbon fibre... 

 

Okay, this is getting a bit beyond a joke now. 

[ARTGP]

The second car (pink livery)

Edited by ARTGP, 07 February 2024 - 14:07.

[STRFerrari4Ever]

So much waffling before the actual car was shown and my takeaway is that the WEC car has a better livery than the primarily carbon F1 car, livery design is dead in the water as of now. I await the constant commentators errors when identifying cars on track because the only distinct design so far is the Stake/Kick one but even that has black.

As for this season, a lot will depend on the Alpine PU as to whether they take a step forward or not. I’m not expecting much from them because they’ve missed their targets of competing for titles by the early 2020s so I expect more of the same, an occasional podium and mostly mediocrity.

[ARTGP]

[rootten]

The second car (pink livery)

 

this also looks like last year's car, they had two versions of sidepods last year

[grandmastashi]

'Pink livery' and 'blue livery' 

 

Mate they're both black with highlight colours. 

[Laster]

Ah ****. Yep everyones car is going to be carbon fibre black with a little bit of colour splashed on there. I’m now expecting ferrari to turn up with only a small splash of red on their car.

Yeah sport definitely needs to step in now and nip the trend in the butt.

Edited by Laster, 07 February 2024 - 14:14.

[JHSingo]

So much waffling before the actual car was shown and my takeaway is that the WEC car has a better livery than the primarily carbon F1 car, livery design is dead in the water as of now. I await the constant commentators errors when identifying cars on track because the only distinct design so far is the Stake/Kick one but even that has black.

 

These F1 liveries all look like testing liveries...and I don't mean that as a good thing. 

 

And people who say the black "looks good" - no it doesn't, not when most the grid has the exact same bloody thing! 

[thegamer23]

Awful livery.

Seriously they need a designer to come up with these? 

[lettuce]

mandatory paint weight time or something surely? 

[STRFerrari4Ever]

Awful livery.

Seriously they need a designer to come up with these?

They shouted him out during the reveal as if this is some bold masterpiece when it’s just black, blue and pink splodged together in an uninspiring manner.

The 2020 Renault sticks two middle fingers at this abomination of a livery.

[vee10]

Nice traditional black Enstone testing livery I can't wait until we see the real livery at the first race.

[TomNokoe]

Nice to see a proper car. The black livery complements the pink and blue really well.

Starting to see some real convergence with aero now.

[GiorgioF1]

What an eyesore.

 

Should be a ****ing rule that at least 80% of the car needs to be painted.

[rootten]

I guess this render is closer to the truth (but still probably differs from the real thing)

 

there are more details: nose appears to be narrower, fhe floor edges are new, mirrors have small deflectors

 

Edited by rootten, 07 February 2024 - 14:31.

[JimmyClark]

'Pink livery' and 'blue livery' 

 

Mate they're both black with highlight colours. 

 

If Pierre or Esteban get their other halves pregnant this year, this would make a cracking gender reveal party prop. 

[grandmastashi]

Nice traditional black Enstone testing livery I can't wait until we see the real livery at the first race.

 

According to Sean Bull on Twitter (graphic designer who worked on it) - this is it. 'An art car for the whole season'

[messy]

Aaarrgghh. So much exposed carbon fibre. What are they all playing at? Black with little highlights of colour, getting utterly crazy.

[Spillage]

I preferred it when Renault's cars were yellow.

[JimmyClark]

It is sad to see when you think how beautiful the first Alpine was: 

 

https://www.topgear....-quite-gorgeous

[mclarensmps]

All the liveries so far (and yes, I include McLaren), look like backmarker liveries from the 90s. It's actually pretty disappointing. 

Hey Liberty, what Value is this garbage adding to F1? 

[Frankbullitt]

What livery?

[Boing 2]

has mclaren released a livery?

[Clrnc]

Another car that resembles more towards Mclaren design than RB. Why doesn't more people copy RB? Everyone going for the scooped sidepods 

[JimmyClark]

Another car that resembles more towards Mclaren design than RB. Why doesn't more people copy RB? Everyone going for the scooped sidepods 

Maybe the McLaren one is easier to work out how it fits together? It's a lot more than just the sidepod shapes. 

 

But I'm no aerodynamicist, so that's just my hunch rather than any actual technical knowledge. 

[ARTGP]

Another car that resembles more towards Mclaren design than RB. Why doesn't more people copy RB? Everyone going for the scooped sidepods 

 

Alpine had scooped sidepods before Mclaren did and even before Aston. This is the A522 from 2022:

 

Edited by ARTGP, 07 February 2024 - 16:36.

[mclarensmps]

has mclaren released a livery?

 

Yes, it's better than last year's but not great

[pryanjack]

I like it

[Clrnc]

Alpine had scooped sidepods before Mclaren did and even before Aston. This is the A522 from 2022:

Yeah I know, but this current version seems more similar to Mclaren than their own original version for the entire sidepod shape.

Haas is following the same route too. Just surprised nobody is copying RB directly for 2 years now even though they are the fastest team

[vlado]

So we gonnna have bunch of black cars .. cool

[PitViperRacing]

That is horrific.

[ARTGP]

this also looks like last year's car, they had two versions of sidepods last year

 

Someone on a different forum pointed out this interesting looking radiator opening. There is also speculation of an s-duct device. 

 

Edited by ARTGP, 07 February 2024 - 21:26.

[OvDrone]

I'm more interested in the WEC car.

L@@k how low it is!

[William Hunt]

The way carbon reflects light makes the livery even worse, as can be seen in post nr. 38 of this thread;

[YamahaV10]

I like it

I do too. The fading on the blue looks cool. They brought the A back on the engine coweling bc everyone said they liked it. Now they hate it.


I swear Tommo F1 sets the trend. If he hates it , the majority hates it.

Edited by YamahaV10, 08 February 2024 - 04:40.

[Okyo]

Someone on a different forum pointed out this interesting looking radiator opening. There is also speculation of an s-duct device. 

 

Looks like a version of what Ferrari had last year (https://maxf1.net/wp...by-MAXF1net.jpg), though quite a bit more agressive. 

Edited by Okyo, 08 February 2024 - 06:26.

[eREr]

I think the livery looks fine. Black goes well both with the blue and pink. I like it.

 

The wide nose (which is even wider than '23 version) is strange. All other lead cars (at least from '23) have narrow nose, Alpine did the opposite. This is definitely not the trend. But if RB, Ferrari, Mc will come up with similar designs for '24, then probably that's fine. If not, then I'm not sure (as an armchair expert) if it is the right direction.

[kumo7]

Looks like a version of what Ferrari had last year (https://maxf1.net/wp...by-MAXF1net.jpg), though quite a bit more agressive. 

 

To me, these engineering points are worth much more than a paint job on a tub. I think the paint job looks good enough. (I agree could be better tho)

The car has aggressive features it has a wider nose, very narrow rear gearbox, where the floor is very flat. It looks very much like a development of 23 car, tho, even if the team claims that the car is nearly 100% new. It means the car has all new components...

[Amz964]

Agree with a lot of people here that yes it does look very similar to the A523 at a glance but it's clear there has been some significant changes underneath. One interesting part is the suspension which has been changed significantly and I really hope the cooling system has been revised to reduce the excessive drag it had last year.

The livery is not too bad but the 2021 one was exceptional.

[rootten]

I think we haven't seen everything yet, I'm expecting more details to be uncovered in Bahrain

[ARTGP]

One thing mentioned last year was how they were going to revamp the internal cooling system so that is something they have worked on which we cannot see. There's also the floor of the car which we can't see. 

 

Harman also said something curious. He said that they moved the exhaust and wanted to make sure they were not cooling the exhaust system because it was wasting energy in the airflow. 

Edited by ARTGP, 08 February 2024 - 18:31.

[pryanjack]

Looks fast

[krapmeister]

Somewhat surprised to see Travis Kelce repping the Alpine F1 team at a Super Bowl press conference...

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=iK3wKi_1jvI

Swifties unite!

[rootten]

I think the livery looks fine. Black goes well both with the blue and pink. I like it.

 

The wide nose (which is even wider than '23 version) is strange. All other lead cars (at least from '23) have narrow nose, Alpine did the opposite. This is definitely not the trend. But if RB, Ferrari, Mc will come up with similar designs for '24, then probably that's fine. If not, then I'm not sure (as an armchair expert) if it is the right direction.

 

looks like more and more cars are featuring a wider nose this season