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#201 PassWind

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Posted 05 March 2024 - 08:21

At least it is some excitement.
 
I like Yuki, I think he has the talent to be a future Red Bull Driver.  Would be a great commercial boon for Red Bull, Honda and F1 to have a Japanese driver in a top top team.


You are right mate I watch his interviews and I get he is trying to learn another language but he is articulate enough to know he has had good media training. He is a driver first and I really would want that to be the main point reinforced but his salary is supported by his brand within the team. It’s just normal getting kids to understand the big picture and manage the ego somewhat when it’s appropriate.

I don’t mind it when he pops off, as he seems to get faster when he is mad, which is counter intuitive to me. Or is that just my perception, anyway I like the kid. He just needs some management which now insists on a few things.

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#202 PassWind

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Posted 05 March 2024 - 09:41

This reminds me of the old days in RC and all the Villeneuve & Schumacher fans squabbling! :D
Except at least they were World Champions...
Some of you Ozzie's need to get a little perspective.
DR was never going to be a WC. And for that matter neither was Webber. Pastri though may be the real deal.
E. Watching DR claw his way back to a Red Bull seat after his his rather childish departure from that same team is frankly cringe worthy. He made his own bed.


Hey Ozzie is an Ostrich on a variety show, it’s Aussie. S are Z we utiliSe S the way the mother ship does.

Webber had a shot, he was in the running until a late season mistake. He wasn’t good enough, he was very much in reach of one, at the time I didn’t think he would but acknowledged he could.

DR clearly had potential his break out season was as good it gets if ramping up to a real WDC run, his soul was destroyed by a perception that led him astray. He would never win a WDC with Max in the team, he isn’t good enough. I really think Webber had a role to play, I guarantee listening to how Webber talks about a career he would have been in Daniel’s ear, cut your loses the decision is made, Webber does hold grudges.

I know you usually like robust conversation so here is my take on Daniel in the new era. He didn’t deal well with whatever McLaren was doing with its car in 2021, ok thats a problem he needs to fix. But what was it, feel? Anyway to 2022 and you would think that with a different concept the issues might be engineered out. There is new problem though, the anti-geometry some teams needed to control the floor directly impacts drivers feel with 100 percent anti geometry making a car difficult to feel at all. Generally ground effect cars need in order of 80 percent anti geometry and above.

Lewis Hamilton was affected by this as the Mercedes floor needed a higher ratio, the more powerful your floor the more finite control you need. If you loosen the car up to give the driver feedback and the geometry cant keep the floor in its working zone it will be inconsistent including bouncing. Mercedes messed with their concept to at least give the drivers something to work with, you would see Lewis hunt around for a setup as is his way. Then revert to something known as workable enough but they were trying everything to get it working with the as built concept.

So why would Daniel be lost, well McLaren weren’t exactly completely understanding the problem either but their fix may have just been to up the ratio, Lando could deal with it DR couldn’t. I think a few drivers struggle with it DR, Perez, Stroll and Lewis somewhat but he is so good he can work around it often enough and he had a fundamental car problem to deal with.

What could RB see with DR, well they could literally see the garden path teams went down by the way he was trying to drive the car, they stated this. Well they know the anti-geometry code and I suspect all the teams do now, McLaren worked it out last year. I think thats a plausible theory for some of the odd stuff. He seems to be driving better now, WDC material. Not now unless Netflix commands it.

Piastri? I dunno, hope he goes well, he seems ok with a good head. Other than that he hasn’t done much, I have a feeling he ain’t the one either but you never know.

Would I use the above as a complete argument for why, nope. Would any of that if approximately around the problem change much of the future. Not for DR it wont he is done, he was done when he left RB less getting a gift somewhere else.

I did get the old RC vibes but back then we were allowed to bring spiked bats we just couldn’t go full Planet F1 in the village. I like paddock club brutality as a rule but I will pop my hand up and admit I got way too attached to some silly hills to die on in old RC before the public liability police had their say. Yeah I was just completely lost in a bias, I am sure it serves some rule of biological evolution in a group. I dunno…..

Anyway mate I got bored too ;)

#203 Burtros

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Posted 05 March 2024 - 09:53

Well this just confirms you can no longer have a rational debate about an Australian driver on this forum.

Bonus points for some Norris hate making it in too. Impressive.

Edited by Burtros, 05 March 2024 - 09:53.


#204 JBJ

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Posted 05 March 2024 - 11:31

Well this just confirms you can no longer have a rational debate about an Australian driver on this forum.

Bonus points for some Norris hate making it in too. Impressive.

Stating that a rational debate is no longer possible and at the same time calling it hate is part of the problem IMO



#205 taran

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Posted 05 March 2024 - 11:37

Honda wants a Japanese driver.Yuki is safe enough unless Iwasa gets the call up.....

 

 

https://www.youtube....rts/auGjDexrThU



#206 kumo7

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Posted 05 March 2024 - 13:29


If memory serves me right most of us agreed Ricciardo should beat Yuki convincingly to "deserve" the seat of Perez
We expexted him to do this
So far he hasn't done that, he should do to Yuki what Max is doing to Perez considering his past form


I think nearly all drivers are targeting to become the wdc at some point. Yuki, have Yuki plotted his route to the wdc? I hope so. Certainly Gasley does.

#207 William Hunt

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Posted 05 March 2024 - 15:44

Honda wants a Japanese driver.Yuki is safe enough unless Iwasa gets the call up.....

 

 

https://www.youtube....rts/auGjDexrThU

Bulshit story from Eddie Jordan about Frentzen having to move for Sato because Frentzen was replaced halfway the season by Jean Alesi. It was Alesi who was replaced by Sato, not Frentzen



#208 gowebber

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Posted 06 March 2024 - 03:11

Sky Sports analysis of the last few laps and incident.

https://www.skysport...eels-threatened



#209 ATM

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Posted 06 March 2024 - 08:55

Some fairly decent points raised there. Bottom line, let your driving to the talking-if you're good enough, opportunities will appear.
În that regards, even though I do not consider the divebomb nearly as dangerous as thought initially, it does not help his relation with the team - who just got starkly reminded they have a short fuse driver on their hands. And the fuse is, worryingly, still as short as in the last years. Yes, he's probably safe as long as Honda supports him but he will not make any new fans withij the team, emotional intelligence wise.
Couple that with the fact that the other side of the garage is occupied by a very likeable and easy character (Daniel) and we get a net minus for Yuki after the Bahrain race.

Edited by ATM, 06 March 2024 - 10:36.


#210 midgrid

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Posted 06 March 2024 - 10:34

Bulshit story from Eddie Jordan about Frentzen having to move for Sato because Frentzen was replaced halfway the season by Jean Alesi. It was Alesi who was replaced by Sato, not Frentzen

 

Perhaps he knew that Frentzen would have to move for Sato at season's end anyway, and that their falling-out mid-season just brought it forward?  Although I agree it's likely that he's just misremembered.



#211 kumo7

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Posted 06 March 2024 - 10:41

Perhaps he knew that Frentzen would have to move for Sato at season's end anyway, and that their falling-out mid-season just brought it forward?  Although I agree it's likely that he's just misremembered.

 

By all means, Japanese drivers are mocked on the F1 grid. Sato went on to own Indy 500 twice.

Yuki need to face up this traditional mocking habits. 

This thread is a typical one.



#212 southernstars

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Posted 06 March 2024 - 14:40

By all means, Japanese drivers are mocked on the F1 grid. Sato went on to own Indy 500 twice.
Yuki need to face up this traditional mocking habits.
This thread is a typical one.


It is not "mocking" to call out that Tsunoda's temper caused him to act poorly on the cool down lap. It is not "mocking" to point out that in Mexico his temper not only caused him to hit the same driver three times but to accuse the FIA of favouritism immediately after.

Sticking your head in the sand about a problem does not make it less of a problem. Tsunoda is in year four and is more short-fused and hot-headed than two younger drivers in their second year.

#213 Flasheart

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Posted 06 March 2024 - 21:23

I've got no dog in this fight


Bull*cough*…
Almost every post I’ve seen of yours over the past four years is about running Ricciardo down. Don’t pretend you’re a passive bystander….

#214 kumo7

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Posted 06 March 2024 - 22:19

It is not "mocking" to call out that Tsunoda's temper caused him to act poorly on the cool down lap. It is not "mocking" to point out that in Mexico his temper not only caused him to hit the same driver three times but to accuse the FIA of favouritism immediately after.

Sticking your head in the sand about a problem does not make it less of a problem. Tsunoda is in year four and is more short-fused and hot-headed than two younger drivers in their second year.


I think you repeated your message enough, I can hear you and do reply to you.

Then I think, ah, it’s rolling again.

#215 Cadence

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Posted 06 March 2024 - 23:07

Bull*cough*…
Almost every post I’ve seen of yours over the past four years is about running Ricciardo down. Don’t pretend you’re a passive bystander….

Do you feel better now?

There are professional support groups available should you require one. :lol:


E. I actually really like Ricciardo. Nice bloke.

But IMO he's past his "Best Before Date" as a driver and needs to come to terms with that. I think his time at Renault and McLaren pretty much prove that. And he is after all the only one responsible for his exit from RBR. Thus his efforts to return are undeniably ironic.

I will admit that I find most driver fanboys insufferable at times though.

And this whole Tsunoda incident was caused by a stupid team decision that wasn't going to help either driver or the team. But it did penalize Yuki, and elevate Daniel without merit. Hence arguments to the contrary fall within the fanboys spectrum IMO.

One last thing, I've only been back in the RC thread maybe just over a year. Been a member 21 years now, but left the thread years ago as it had devolved into a **** show.

I'm happy to have an open exchange of dialogue where we may not agree, but if you just want to sling insults, push off.

Edited by Cadence, 06 March 2024 - 23:28.


#216 PassWind

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Posted 06 March 2024 - 23:53

By all means, Japanese drivers are mocked on the F1 grid. Sato went on to own Indy 500 twice.
Yuki need to face up this traditional mocking habits. 
This thread is a typical one.


Sato is excellent one of the finest drivers Japan has produced.

Yuki wont read this thread, his team wont mock him I hope. But they should mentor him as any senior person does with someone junior. As to the behaviour being dangerous or not it’s up to the drivers to meet and discuss it if they want. They manage their own driving standards in the first instance.

Yeah a deal was made of it here which descended down irrelevant rabbit holes. In reality it’s not a big deal, it isn’t owning headlines, Horner has an exclusive deal on that. Hope Yuki sends him flowers for running top cover.

#217 Cadence

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Posted 07 March 2024 - 00:30

Yeah a deal was made of it here which descended down irrelevant rabbit holes. In reality it’s not a big deal, it isn’t owning headlines, Horner has an exclusive deal on that. Hope Yuki sends him flowers for running top cover.

:lol: :up:

#218 William Hunt

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Posted 07 March 2024 - 00:56

Kobayashi was one of the most popular drivers in F1 when he was driving in it. And I stayed a fan of him when he moved to WEC with Toyota (and he still does Super Formula as well). Kazuki Nakajima was underrated on this forum, he had the bad luck that he was the team mate of Nico Rosberg who dominated him but he wasn't bad at all.
But the most underrated Japanese F1 driver surely has to be Tora Takagi. At the time they said his lack of English hindered him a bit but man he was really quick in an F1 car. He first completely trashed Rosset at Tyrrell (okay it was just Rosset, who has a bad reputation and performed very poorly in F1) but the next season at Arrows he was matching Pedro de la Rosa in qualy. Quick driver and it would have been interesting to see had he been able to stay a 3rd year in F1. He was a great qualifier.
 



#219 kumo7

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Posted 07 March 2024 - 05:53

Sato is excellent one of the finest drivers Japan has produced.

Yuki wont read this thread, his team wont mock him I hope. But they should mentor him as any senior person does with someone junior. As to the behaviour being dangerous or not it’s up to the drivers to meet and discuss it if they want. They manage their own driving standards in the first instance.

Yeah a deal was made of it here which descended down irrelevant rabbit holes. In reality it’s not a big deal, it isn’t owning headlines, Horner has an exclusive deal on that. Hope Yuki sends him flowers for running top cover.

 

Does he? I am not too sure.

 

But anyhow, PassWind, I think you have said the samething repeatedly time after time, obviously in different words, and at some point, it is pointless, rather jump to new subject.

Perhaps Red Bull needs scape goat badly at this point as the Horner issue is spiraling terribly uncontrollably. Shame, the team had sow such integrity, but after the death of the Detrich Mateschits, it seems to me that there is on going internal power struggles and the different belief on the future of the brand amongst the owners. I can imagine that the power formed by Mateshit's harmony is not easy to replicate by those who are not Mateshits, as he was an incredible entrepreneur, adventurer, someone with huge dedication to his belief; one could, in general I may say, hardly establish the respect that Mateshits has built himself upon. It was so  surprising that we heard so little or almost nothing about him operating out of the codes of behavior. There were none of these none sense threads between the driver who lost his edge against a driver who is much more capable. Never the less, Let me excuse myself from pointless talk from my side. It all suddens me to post my sentiments on these whole Red Bul culture. Red Bull sells this free to adventure attitude with the can, this to me, obviously associates the culture of being funny and go beyond the line. It appear to me that many who are involved with the running of the team think that Horner had crossed the line with this affair. Red Bull as the brand encourages of outrageous actions. sporting adventure that obviously associated emotional out burst. So what Yuki did during the cool down lap truly and entirely belongs to this Red Bull's culture of expressing the excitements that belongs to the experience of going beyond the conscious line of danger. Let me say, Yuki Loyally allowed Dan to pass during the race. I also add there were many who did not concede to the order by the pit wall. but he did, which is something we all should say something very good about Yuki, isn't it? Everyday the guys and dolls dressed in Red Bull branding jump from the airplane and dive into the canyons with go camera on his heads. The ads appear to be no accidents at all, but some shows a heavy consequences. I can truly imagine that Horner might projected himself that he was playing within the rule of this Red Bull's code for go beyond the danger for adventure. it belongs to the culture. Therefore there is no end to this Yuki bashing in public and endless, truly endless outbursts of frustration. oK, now I do ends my rant. 

 

So please, let us bring end to this pointless talks, Yuki has published stunning message about his prospects and excuses. 


Edited by kumo7, 07 March 2024 - 06:18.


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#220 gowebber

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Posted 07 March 2024 - 10:44

Do you feel better now?

There are professional support groups available should you require one. :lol:


E. I actually really like Ricciardo. Nice bloke.

But IMO he's past his "Best Before Date" as a driver and needs to come to terms with that. I think his time at Renault and McLaren pretty much prove that. And he is after all the only one responsible for his exit from RBR. Thus his efforts to return are undeniably ironic.

I will admit that I find most driver fanboys insufferable at times though.

And this whole Tsunoda incident was caused by a stupid team decision that wasn't going to help either driver or the team. But it did penalize Yuki, and elevate Daniel without merit. Hence arguments to the contrary fall within the fanboys spectrum IMO.

One last thing, I've only been back in the RC thread maybe just over a year. Been a member 21 years now, but left the thread years ago as it had devolved into a **** show.

I'm happy to have an open exchange of dialogue where we may not agree, but if you just want to sling insults, push off.

Lol this just proves you haven't got a clue. To say his Renault stint proves he is past it is daft. His 2020 year was highly praised. He was rated 4th best driver by TPs and outdrove that Renault.

https://www.formula1...C3MrzeFNa3.html

Laurent Mekies, Jody Egginton, Peter Bayer, Franz Tost etc have heaped praise on him. While it remains to be seen if he can recapture his mojo he did show glimpses of it last year at Hungary, Mexico and Brazil.

Besides this it was already noted by Bayer his car setup was not great in the Bahrain race and they were only really able to fix it in the last stint not to mention its devoid of logic to form any assertion off one race in a new season.

It's far too early to call him past it especially given this car features the RB19 suspension and suits his driving style much more than the McLaren ever did. He also has a full preseason and fully healed hand now unlike last season.

Also as Mekies mentioned recently he has the full and close support of the team to help bring out his best as well.

Edited by gowebber, 07 March 2024 - 11:40.


#221 southernstars

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Posted 07 March 2024 - 11:18

I think his time at Renault and McLaren pretty much prove that.

 

Anyone who tries to claim that Ricciardo was washed at Renault immediately loses all credibility in their argument.

 

Red Bull as the brand encourages of outrageous actions. sporting adventure that obviously associated emotional out burst. So what Yuki did during the cool down lap truly and entirely belongs to this Red Bull's culture of expressing the excitements that belongs to the experience of going beyond the conscious line of danger. 

 

No. Red Bull's ethos is to sponsor exciting, extreme events that involve calculated risk. It is not to sponsor childish temper tantrums that endanger the safety of others.



#222 kumo7

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Posted 07 March 2024 - 11:26

Anyone who tries to claim that Ricciardo was washed at Renault immediately loses all credibility in their argument.


No. Red Bull's ethos is to sponsor exciting, extreme events that involve calculated risk. It is not to sponsor childish temper tantrums that endanger the safety of others.


No, you are incorrect. Take you time to find it out.

#223 Sterzo

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Posted 07 March 2024 - 16:51

National bias is tedious in any context, and especially so in motor racing which is a truly international sport. I feel quite lucky that I happen to live in England, because so many young drivers from Brazil, Argentina, USA, Australia and Japan - as well as the rest of Europe - have come here and raced in the junior formulae. I'm nobody's fan, but have enthused about the talents of Webber, Ricciardo, Ikuzawa and Sato amongst others. (Tsunoda didn't race here, unfortunately).

 

Simply put, Tsunoda did something he shouldn't have, and Ricciardo had a worrying slump in form for a couple of years, which may or may not recur. There is no need whatever for anyone, Japanese or Australian, to be offended by that statement, nor to spend many words in "defending" a countryman. I have witnessed worse things done by English drivers but so what? Let's ignore nationality.



#224 Cadence

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Posted 07 March 2024 - 23:56

Anyone who tries to claim that Ricciardo was washed at Renault immediately loses all credibility in their argument.


Because you say so?

Okay precious. :lol:

#225 Cadence

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 00:01

Lol this just proves you haven't got a clue. To say his Renault stint proves he is past it is daft. His 2020 year was highly praised. He was rated 4th best driver by TPs and outdrove that Renault.

He raced for Renault for 2 Seasons sunshine, not one. His 2nd year was dismal, as was his tenure at McLaren with the exception of the win Lando gifted him.

Strange you left those parts out.

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 01:44

He raced for Renault for 2 Seasons sunshine, not one. His 2nd year was dismal, as was his tenure at McLaren with the exception of the win Lando gifted him.

Strange you left those parts out.

 

I think you need to re-check and re-watch the two seasons Ricciardo was in Renault if you mean his 2nd year in Renault was dismal.



#227 PitViperRacing

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 01:51

He raced for Renault for 2 Seasons sunshine, not one. His 2nd year was dismal, as was his tenure at McLaren with the exception of the win Lando gifted him.

Strange you left those parts out.


He came 5th in his second season at Renault. What the **** are you talking about?

#228 baddog

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 02:28

Maybe time to move chat back to the team thread? This event is done and dusted no?



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Posted 08 March 2024 - 03:50

He raced for Renault for 2 Seasons sunshine, not one. His 2nd year was dismal, as was his tenure at McLaren with the exception of the win Lando gifted him.

Strange you left those parts out.

 

Lol seriously when presented with all the supporting evidence about his Renault stint and the clear facts about his 100% earned Monza win which I and others have done you still don't get it and reply with what can only be described as blatant trolling. This has to be one the most daft and ignorant posts I've ever read here and that's saying something. ‍ 

 

Renault 

 

2019

 

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2020

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Rated 4th best in 2020 by team principals

 

https://www.formula1...C3MrzeFNa3.html

 

Monza 2021 Ricciardo was almost +10 secs up the road on Norris before Max and Lewis collided causing a safety car hence he only caught Ricciardo after that due to the SC. Also Dan was saving tyres with Lando behind and managing the car. He then set the fastest lap on the last lap to prove this. Nowhere did he "gift" Lando the win at Monza.

 

"“I was like, ‘OK, I don’t need to be saving (tyres) this much’, so then I kind of turned it up a little bit. With the restarts and the craziness of the racing these days, I was always trying to save a little bit, just in case there was another restart.

 
“Could I have won by 20 seconds? I’m not saying I could have, no, but I was just doing what I had to.”
 
Ricciardo threw caution to the wind on the final lap of Monza, proving he was the quickest driver on the track by claiming fastest lap of the Italian Grand Prix and clinching a valuable extra point for the constructors’ championship."

 

 

https://www.foxsport...4d8ece70ea8cf26

 

 

Next time maybe actually read what people are posting properly and do some research first before responding??   :D


Edited by gowebber, 08 March 2024 - 04:35.


#230 kumo7

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 05:43

Lol seriously when presented with all the supporting evidence about his Renault stint and the clear facts about his 100% earned Monza win which I and others have done you still don't get it and reply with what can only be described as blatant trolling. This has to be one the most daft and ignorant posts I've ever read here and that's saying something. ‍ 

 

Renault 

 

2019

 

w38405.jpg

 

2020

paP1GX.jpg

 

Rated 4th best in 2020 by team principals

 

https://www.formula1...C3MrzeFNa3.html

 

Monza 2021 Ricciardo was almost +10 secs up the road on Norris before Max and Lewis collided causing a safety car hence he only caught Ricciardo after that due to the SC. Also Dan was saving tyres with Lando behind and managing the car. He then set the fastest lap on the last lap to prove this. Nowhere did he "gift" Lando the win at Monza.

 

"“I was like, ‘OK, I don’t need to be saving (tyres) this much’, so then I kind of turned it up a little bit. With the restarts and the craziness of the racing these days, I was always trying to save a little bit, just in case there was another restart.

 
“Could I have won by 20 seconds? I’m not saying I could have, no, but I was just doing what I had to.”
 
Ricciardo threw caution to the wind on the final lap of Monza, proving he was the quickest driver on the track by claiming fastest lap of the Italian Grand Prix and clinching a valuable extra point for the constructors’ championship."

 

 

https://www.foxsport...4d8ece70ea8cf26

 

 

Next time maybe actually read what people are posting properly and do some research first before responding??   :D

 

Will you please start new thread for Riocciardo’s performance after his Renault contract? 

Your post onluy concerns the perfomance of Daniel Ricciardo and have no mention of the on track post race incident between Yuki and Daniel. 

Your post is not relevant to the subject.

I believe you ca agree that It is not positively encouraging for motorsports enthusiasts that this talk is sustained to mix up all reasons to one topic.



#231 gowebber

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 06:07

Will you please start new thread for Riocciardo’s performance after his Renault contract? 

Your post onluy concerns the perfomance of Daniel Ricciardo and have no mention of the on track post race incident between Yuki and Daniel. 

Your post is not relevant to the subject.

I believe you ca agree that It is not positively encouraging for motorsports enthusiasts that this talk is sustained to mix up all reasons to one topic.

 

I'm not the one who keeps bringing Renault up. Just correcting blatantly incorrect information. 

 

Your post below not long ago for example never mentioned the incident either.  I guess there needs to be a question as to how strict on the topic it needs to be with relevance to how the drivers acted in the incident and then how that relates to being deserving of the RBR seat where past performances attribute to that assessment.

 

https://forums.autos...5#entry10524823

 

However as someone else mentioned though maybe its time to close this thread as it might have run its course.


Edited by gowebber, 08 March 2024 - 06:17.


#232 kumo7

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 06:16

I'm not the one who keeps bringing Renault up. Just correcting blatantly incorrect information. As someone else mentioned though maybe its time to close this thread.

 

I can imagine your P.O.V. 

But then do you want to replay to any context and any thread about it, even if it has little to add to the chain of the logic? 



#233 gowebber

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 06:21

I can imagine your P.O.V. 

But then do you want to replay to any context and any thread about it, even if it has little to add to the chain of the logic? 

 

I think looking back at earlier posts you will find this thread was hijacked a bit by some talking about the drivers performance particularly RIcciardo's rather than discussing the incident on the cooldown lap. That certainly wasn't me either. I guess let the mods decide what needs cleaning up and if it needs to close?


Edited by gowebber, 08 March 2024 - 06:23.


#234 ATM

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 07:37

Yeah, good point, we're swaying from the road and going in the bushes here.

One thing I really did not understand from the incident was why Danny Ric accelerated out of the corner, with Tsunoda right beside him. Looked sort of a mini drag race to me. Why not just slow down (or just accelerate slower) and let him go ahead in his merry way? It would have minimized an already low risk to non-existent.

Edited by ATM, 08 March 2024 - 07:56.


#235 kumo7

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 10:59

I think looking back at earlier posts you will find this thread was hijacked a bit by some talking about the drivers performance particularly RIcciardo's rather than discussing the incident on the cooldown lap. That certainly wasn't me either. I guess let the mods decide what needs cleaning up and if it needs to close?


Ok, that is one way to end it. I believe there is other way to end this endless not aspirating posting. If you like to please continue, but I am not reacting to posting I am afraid.

#236 gowebber

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 11:11

Yeah, good point, we're swaying from the road and going in the bushes here.

One thing I really did not understand from the incident was why Danny Ric accelerated out of the corner, with Tsunoda right beside him. Looked sort of a mini drag race to me. Why not just slow down (or just accelerate slower) and let him go ahead in his merry way? It would have minimized an already low risk to non-existent.

I don't think he was accelerating very hard out of the corner. Prob didn't expect Yuki to overtake him there up the inside either after the lockup. Dan was just keeping to the left of track like you normally would in case someone else overtakes you on the normal right side imo.

Edited by gowebber, 08 March 2024 - 11:29.


#237 PayasYouRace

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Posted 08 March 2024 - 11:36

You guys have clearly exhausted the topic. Closed.