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[pdac]

If you want the cars to go faster (flat out), just increase the number of laps, reduce the time  and say that anyone who fails to complete all laps is not classified.

[RedRabbit]

What I suggested a few pages back.

(I do hope they do this and it makes a mockery of the new rule)

How is it a mockery? It would be a calculated strategy that gets a back of field driver a good result.

Won't be the first time something like that paid off.

[pdac]

How is it a mockery? It would be a calculated strategy that gets a back of field driver a good result.

Won't be the first time something like that paid off.

 

I only meant that in the sense that it's a strategy that was probably not something the new rule were supposed to create.

[Fastpass75]

I think most of the objections to the race come from the TV audiences but having been to the race twice it is a fantastic occasion and I wouldn't want to see it drop off the calendar. The fact is every driver wants Monaco on his CV so its prestige is never going to diminish. Keep it.

[Goron3]

I really like this new rule and giving it some thought, it could lead to some really bold strategies. The fact that it's two pit stops, but not a 'each compound must be used' rule is significant.

 

If you're 20th, it makes sense to come in at the end of lap 1 and stick on a set of Hards. Even without a lap 1 SC or VSC, you'll catch the pack who will be stuck in a train. You'd effectively jump everyone ahead that's less than 20s infront of you by the time they pit.

 

But if you're 19th...well you might as well do the exact same at the end of lap 1. Because if not, you're stuck in the same train of cars, knowing that the driver who is 20th has effectively jumped you. You'd have two pit stops left, not just the one.

 

So what if you're 15th? Do you stay in the same train? Or do you, in the knowledge those at the back are planning to box to get one of the mandatory stops out of the way, do the same to avoid losing places to them later in the race?

 

The repurcussions are fascinating.

[BRG]

This should go in the file entitled "Batty Ideas To Enliven Boring Formula One Races" along with reversed grids, sprinklers, refuelling etc

[absinthedude]

I'd have preferred lifting the requirement to even have one pitstop, permitting any strategy including running the race on one set of tyres.

 

Mind you, what I'd really prefer is altering the cars so they can once again race a bit at Monaco. But that's just sensible. 

[Dalton007]

Stop going to Monaco. It's even a challenge anymore for these guys. Time to move on. 

[JimmyClark]

Stop going to Monaco. It's even a challenge anymore for these guys. Time to move on. 

 

In qualifying it most certainly is. 

 

We just need to get the drivers to push more in races, and that challenge will be there. 

[Autodromo]

I really like this new rule and giving it some thought, it could lead to some really bold strategies. The fact that it's two pit stops, but not a 'each compound must be used' rule is significant.

 

If you're 20th, it makes sense to come in at the end of lap 1 and stick on a set of Hards. Even without a lap 1 SC or VSC, you'll catch the pack who will be stuck in a train. You'd effectively jump everyone ahead that's less than 20s infront of you by the time they pit.

 

But if you're 19th...well you might as well do the exact same at the end of lap 1. Because if not, you're stuck in the same train of cars, knowing that the driver who is 20th has effectively jumped you. You'd have two pit stops left, not just the one.

 

So what if you're 15th? Do you stay in the same train? Or do you, in the knowledge those at the back are planning to box to get one of the mandatory stops out of the way, do the same to avoid losing places to them later in the race?

 

The repurcussions are fascinating.

Cars DO get spread out at Monaco, even before the first stop.  So the assumption that a car that qualified 20th could put on hards and catch the back of a "train" is not a given.

[Goron3]

Cars DO get spread out at Monaco, even before the first stop. So the assumption that a car that qualified 20th could put on hards and catch the back of a "train" is not a given.

The cars at the front would have to be pushing hard from lap 1 to cause a field spread. I doubt they will, especially as the C6 and C5 will show deg.

[pdac]

In qualifying it most certainly is. 

 

We just need to get the drivers to push more in races, and that challenge will be there. 

 

If you want to introduce an artificial element, the set a minimum lap time with cars being unclassified if they fail to meet the minimum lap time on some high percentage of the total (the lap time would be different for each lap to account for the weight of the fuel diminishing over time and tyre degradation - but would be know in advance of the race start).

[JimmyClark]

If you want to introduce an artificial element, the set a minimum lap time with cars being unclassified if they fail to meet the minimum lap time on some high percentage of the total (the lap time would be different for each lap to account for the weight of the fuel diminishing over time and tyre degradation - but would be know in advance of the race start).

 

5 points for the most fastest laps set in the race (i.e. the fastest driver on each lap counts as one fastest lap) could work and be less complicated. 

[pdac]

5 points for the most fastest laps set in the race (i.e. the fastest driver on each lap counts as one fastest lap) could work and be less complicated. 

 

No, because cars of teams that are not the fastest won't bother. There needs to be some incentive of disincentive for every driver based solely on their performance and not linked to the performance of any of the others.