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#1 LolaB0860

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 15:55

We are starting this one early, since it seems as if the interest is starting to build-up again, as the inevitability of Verstappen domination doesn't seem strong as it was only few weeks ago. There is chance of 3 different teams going for the win. Or, alternatively always the possibility of Verstappen calmly cruising to pole and winning by 15 seconds again, but it seems just as likely that McLaren or Ferrari might be at the front. The world is changing. There's also other stuff happening at the back. Perhaps Magnussen behaves. And Ocon. Or not.

 

It's also one of the more popular events on the calendar as it's currently sits as your 7th favorite GP of the year (on my Autosport ranking thread), too!

 

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(Yes I do see the irony in using gif from a movie called Wet Hot American Summer on Canadian GP thread)

 

Welcome to the 

 

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TRACK MAP

 

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TRACK CHANGES

 

We do not have the official FIA notes yet, but Redditers have found another good piece in the recent trend of "less asphalt runoff": Which should bring joy to us.

https://www.reddit.c...dates_turns_89/

 

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TIRES

 

C3, C4, C5

 

I'm not gonna give more time to Pirelli than that.

 

 

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WEATHER
 
It's still 7 days to the GP, so don't read too much into it.
 
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WHAT UPDATES ARE THE TEAMS BRINGING

 

Overview since it seemed easier:

 

 

 

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SCHEDULE

 

Time zone -corrected times:

https://www.formula1...024/Canada.html

 

Local times, nonsense removed and tidied:

 

FRIDAY 7th JUNE
09:05 - 09:45 - Porsche Carrera Cup North America - Practice 1
10:15 - 10:45 - Ferrari Challenge North America - Practice 1
11:15 - 11:45 - Porsche Carrera Cup North America - Practice 2
13:30 - 14:30 - FIA Formula 1 - Practice 1
15:00 - 15:30 - Ferrari Challenge North America - Practice 2
17:00 - 18:00 - FIA Formula 1 - Practice 2
18:30 - 18:50 - Ferrari Challenge North America - Practice 3

 

SATURDAY 8th JUNE
08:15 - 08:45 - Ferrari Challenge North America - Qualifying 1
09:15 - 09:45 - Porsche Carrera Cup North America - Qualifying
10:20 - 10:50 - Ferrari Challenge North America - Qualifying 2
12:30 - 13:30 - FIA Formula 1 - Practice 3
14:00 - 14:35 - Ferrari Challenge North America - Race 1 (18 Laps or 30 Minutes)
16:00 - 17:00 - FIA Formula 1 - Qualifying
17:55 - 18:40 - Porsche Carrera Cup North America - Race 1 (40 Minutes +1 Lap)

 

SUNDAY 9th JUNE

09:40 - 10:25 - Porsche Carrera Cup North America - Race 2 (40 Minutes +1 Lap)
10:55 - 11:30 - Ferrari Challenge North America - Race 2 (18 Laps or 30 Minutes)
14:00 - 16:00 - FIA Formula 1 - Canadian Grand Prix (70 Laps or 120 Minutes)
 
 

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CAN I SEE THE SUPPORT RACES
 
Why, yes. This year there are no F1600s, historics, Nissans or other specials sadly, the only two support series are Euro marques (same as in Japan). But nevertheless it is probably the two biggest one-make sportscar series in NA that are here. And Ferrari has  new car for the North American series this year, 296 Challenge.
 
Ferrari Quali + Race sessions are livestreamed on Youtube. The sessions are not yet listed but will be here:
 
Porsche races are streamed here (or as replays later on Youtube):
 
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Edited by LolaB0860, 02 June 2024 - 16:19.


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#2 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 16:01

I'm craving poutine, maple syrup and the wall of champions.



#3 ATM

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 16:16

And proper overtakes at the hairpin; I'm slightly bruised after Monaco and its procession.

#4 Goron3

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 16:26

Forecast is still too far out to predict with accuracy but overall we can expect it to be grey and wet across several points of the weekend. If it stays as it is by Wednesday then we can expect a very tricky weekend.

Expecting another strong weekend for Ferrari.

#5 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 16:31

I like the weather predictions.



#6 SophieB

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 16:38

A race that can be wildlife influenced.

 

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Also Vettel wouldn’t always be so laidback at being denied a win as he is here. Worth it because every Sky production head was plainly yelling GET ME PICTURES OF THOSE BIRDS, J Jonah Jameson style, as soon as he mentioned them.

 

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#7 sportyskells

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 16:40

Fingers cross the weather changes 



#8 Ruusperi

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 16:43


We do not have the official FIA notes yet, but Redditers have found another good piece in the recent trend of "less asphalt runoff": Which should bring joy to us.

https://www.reddit.c...dates_turns_89/

 

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That's great! Apparently, there's been tarmac there since 2013.

From Alonso's onboard you can see there was still grass in 2012.



#9 Bleu

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 16:56

Not to forget it's Lance Stroll's home race. He has finished in the points in four out of five races there, however never higher than 9th. And the one he didn't score points - he crashed on the opening lap.



#10 vlado

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 17:03

Expecting another strong weekend for Ferrari.

 

Not if it rains 



#11 Hellenic tifosi

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 17:08

Fantastic atmosphere, and an F1 classic, bring it on! There is something I would like to see changed though, and that is the DRS. First of all, the single detection point for two zones is ridiculous and should NEVER be used. Secondly, it's too powerful down the back straight.

I would like to see a new zone added before the hairpin and getting rid of the big one at the back straight. Let's see if we can see some proper outbraking instead of fly-bys.

#12 LolaB0860

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 17:13

That's great! Apparently, there's been tarmac there since 2013.

From Alonso's onboard you can see there was still grass in 2012.

 

Yes!

 

Abolish tarmac runoff from Turn 1-2, 6, 10 and 11-12 next, please...

 

Turn 6 especially is utterly pointless


Edited by LolaB0860, 02 June 2024 - 17:14.


#13 H0R

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 19:06

I'd like to bring to all of your attention that Canada is a bilingual country The respect for the host country obviously mandates our race thread to be bilingual as well. Please follow suit.

J'aimerais attirer votre attention sur le fait que le Canada est un pays bilingue. Le respect pour le pays hôte exige évidemment que notre fil conducteur soit également bilingue. Merci de suivre le mouvement.

 



#14 PayasYouRace

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 19:09

I'd like to bring to all of your attention that Canada is a bilingual country The respect for the host country obviously mandates our race thread to be bilingual as well. Please follow suit.

J'aimerais attirer votre attention sur le fait que le Canada est un pays bilingue. Le respect pour le pays hôte exige évidemment que notre fil conducteur soit également bilingue. Merci de suivre le mouvement.

 

To this I can only say I’ll let the funky music do the talking.

 



#15 FLB

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 19:32

I'd like to bring to all of your attention that Canada is a bilingual country The respect for the host country obviously mandates our race thread to be bilingual as well. Please follow suit.

J'aimerais attirer votre attention sur le fait que le Canada est un pays bilingue. Le respect pour le pays hôte exige évidemment que notre fil conducteur soit également bilingue. Merci de suivre le mouvement.

 

ROTLFL  :rotfl:

 

 

Mdr  :rotfl:



#16 loki

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 19:36

Remembering the days of peeler joints in seedy hotel basements, 222s over the counter and the Vancouver GP.  As well as the Expos…



#17 FLB

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 20:29

For those coming to Montreal late in the week, there is the possibility of a Canadian Customs strike beginning on June 6: A CBSA strike could soon snarl border traffic. Here’s what you need to know (citynews.ca)



#18 Beri

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Posted 02 June 2024 - 21:16

Canada oh Canada, eh. Great opening post Lola! Thanks.

#19 sportyskells

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 08:34

Might need a plan c for this one as my normal way to watch has been stopped and need the plan b to be fast otherwise I in the same Monaco crash barrier as Perez and the two hasses last time out



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#20 Anderis

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 09:15

A race that can be wildlife influenced.

 

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It was very much influenced in 2007, when Anthony Davidson could've achieved the best result of his F1 career and the best ever result for Super Aguri, but hit one of those animals, his wheels locked up, his front wing got damaged and his race was ruined. He was running well ahead of Sato, who eventually finished 6th..



#21 Goron3

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 09:51

Not if it rains


Riding the kerbs is still important in the wet, and we saw in China that the Red Bull doesn't get heat into the tyres that well. McLaren could come into play..

With grass now added to another chicane, that means all the chicanes apart from the last one have grass. Hopefully they can do similar for the final chicane and turn 1/2.

#22 Nobody

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 10:19

Hooray for track changes

#23 Yoshi

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 10:46

Hooray for track changes


+1

Looking forward to this race, even if we get some rain.

#24 Cliff

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 11:12

Dry race, heard it here first.

#25 Autodromo

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 11:50

Dry race, heard it here first.

What?  No drinking?  What kind of place is this??!!



#26 B38

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 12:03

Please tell me, does Canada exist?



#27 JimmyClark

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 12:11

Dry race, heard it here first.


Looking like wet risk is Saturday, and Sunday will be dry.

#28 TauriJ

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 12:38

Dry race, heard it here first.


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#29 Myrvold

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 14:03

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It is always weird seeing non-Norwegians using a Norwegian service for forecasts outside of Norway.



#30 Beri

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 14:23

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So youre telling me to boot the wife and kid out of the house and prepare myself for some awesome race? Or will we be looking at a red flagged/delayed race and do I need them to bring me my beer during the wait?



#31 TauriJ

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 14:30

Dunno but its widely used here.

Most of the weather forecast sites use the same model anyway.

Anyway looks like weather is changing right before the weekend. Cold front moving in with lots of precipitation. But maybe too early to tell how much it rains and when.

#32 TauriJ

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 14:35

So youre telling me to boot the wife and kid out of the house and prepare myself for some awesome race? Or will we be looking at a red flagged/delayed race and do I need them to bring me my beer during the wait?


Before the race week I was hoping for a dry race because top3 teams are so evenly matched. But I wouldnt mind a wet race with light rain

#33 Nemo1965

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 14:45

I'd like to bring to all of your attention that Canada is a bilingual country The respect for the host country obviously mandates our race thread to be bilingual as well. Please follow suit.
J'aimerais attirer votre attention sur le fait que le Canada est un pays bilingue. Le respect pour le pays hôte exige évidemment que notre fil conducteur soit également bilingue. Merci de suivre le mouvement.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=jyO1ILQAGsU

Oui, monsieur:

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Edited by Nemo1965, 03 June 2024 - 14:48.


#34 krapmeister

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 23:05

So youre telling me to boot the wife and kid out of the house and prepare myself for some awesome race? Or will we be looking at a red flagged/delayed race and do I need them to bring me my beer during the wait?


Yes.

#35 JeanAlesi27

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Posted 03 June 2024 - 23:31

Please tell me, does Canada exist?

 

Please tell me,  why you asking such a question.



#36 MaxScelerate

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 01:15

Rufus Wainwright's mom...



#37 southernstars

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 01:52

I just beg there not to be a long red flag, a 4am start is already brutal enough.

#38 GreenMachine

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 02:11

Hmmm, 12mm, spread pretty evenly over morning noon and night as that graphic suggests, that is raceable on full wets and inters.

 

Could be interesting, bordering on exciting ... :wave:



#39 vlado

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 04:19

It is always weird seeing non-Norwegians using a Norwegian service for forecasts outside of Norway.

 

but why?



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#40 1player

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 06:41

Expecting a three-way battle for the podium between McLaren, Ferrari and Red Bull. If it rains, my money's on the British driver in orange.

#41 JimmyClark

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 06:54

Dry race, heard it here first.

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Oh wow, it was Yr.no I used for my post before this too ... Looks like the forecasts are changing a lot.

A race with lots of squally showers would be lovely, never enough to get the red flag out but lots of tyre confusion.

#42 southernstars

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 08:01

It is his time. It is time for Oscar to ascend to the top step. I can feel it in my bones.

 

And at the scene of Daniel's first win, too. It would be too, too sweet.



#43 amerikalei

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 11:01

And proper overtakes at the hairpin; I'm slightly bruised after Monaco and its procession.

Speaking of overtakes at the hairpin, you might enjoy IndyCar Detroit highlights... :drunk:



#44 Myrvold

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 11:57

but why?

 

Because, I have no idea when it emerged as a reliable source for "the world". I see ut on other motorsport forums as well. It's always being used. While I'm not always trusting it for local forecasts :p



#45 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 13:37

I always check the local weather on Yahoo, always predict better than other services.



#46 TomNokoe

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 13:46

Riding the kerbs is still important in the wet, and we saw in China that the Red Bull doesn't get heat into the tyres that well. McLaren could come into play...


I don't know if anyone else feels similar, but I still can't take McLaren seriously in my mind when I try and predict what will happen for any given race weekend.

I don't mean this in a derogatory way whatsoever, it's just that for some reason the evidence before my eyes isn't sinking in to my brain.

Whenever they turn up at the top of the timesheets I still can't help but think, "oh - McLaren are quick! That's a nice surprise", even though it's pretty obvious beforehand.

#47 numberten

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 14:07

I don't know if anyone else feels similar, but I still can't take McLaren seriously in my mind when I try and predict what will happen for any given race weekend.

I don't mean this in a derogatory way whatsoever, it's just that for some reason the evidence before my eyes isn't sinking in to my brain.

Whenever they turn up at the top of the timesheets I still can't help but think, "oh - McLaren are quick! That's a nice surprise", even though it's pretty obvious beforehand.

 

I think that's a pretty fair reflection of the general conversation, listening to podcasts etc. And to be honest, I prefer it that way - low expectations and high results  :D

 

It's when people start predicting McLaren to win that I get nervous. 

 

As for performing better in the wet/cold - I would have said these conditions benefit McLaren more than any other team on the evidence of the past few seasons, however I'm no longer sure that's the case with the latest updates. Hopefully we have an exciting grand prix weekend to find out.



#48 TomNokoe

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 14:08

C3, C4, C5

I'm not gonna give more time to Pirelli than that.

Front pressures increased by a laughable 1.5psi versus last year.

What are they protecting the tyres from? There are no fast corners in Montreal. Incredible, really.


Edited by TomNokoe, 04 June 2024 - 21:54.


#49 sportyskells

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 14:19

At least I now ready for this upcoming Grand Prix and can now use my own laptop 



#50 eibyyz

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Posted 04 June 2024 - 14:36

I'm craving poutine, maple syrup and the wall of champions.

 

I'm missing Tim Hortons.