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[thefinalapex]

I don't know about brilliant, but if you are thinking of Antti Kalhola, yes, it's me.

Nice one, can i send you a pm about one of your videos that i can’t find anymore?

[Jim Thurman]

I generally don't wade into these, as lists are just the opinion of either one person or a small panel, and relative rankings are kind of moot, but...

Bobby Unser should be way higher than #53. 

I guess they've biased it to championships and Indy 500 wins, and I know they had the "All-arounder" list, but how Parnelli Jones can be that far down in relation to many, I do not know. I don't say that based on his recent passing. I would've written the same thing if this was 20 years ago. And before red stick chimes in with "Pikes Peak" for Bobby Unser's accomplishments, Parnelli won it three times in stock cars!

Edited by Jim Thurman, 11 July 2024 - 22:23.

[Jim Thurman]

Pearson>>>>>>Petty and it's not particularly close.

I don't know that I'd use that many >, but definitely Pearson over Petty. Back at the turn of the century, there were many of these lists geared to best of the century. Someone broke down all the stats for Pearson vs. Petty and Pearson dominated. I believe there was only one, maybe two, categories that Petty came out on top of. And when only doing races where both started (which used to be a thing), Pearson was even further ahead.

 

Pearson impressed the road racers at the initial IROC races at Riverside. He also won a Trans-Am race there.

 

Again, there seems bias towards championships, but Pearson won three, which were just about the only seasons he actively campaigned for the championship. One year, he finished 2nd in points to Petty running half the races Petty did (   !). I also don't understand Jeff Gordon that much higher than Jimmie Johnson.

Edited by Jim Thurman, 11 July 2024 - 22:24.

[AnttiK]

Nice one, can i send you a pm about one of your videos that i can’t find anymore?

Yeah no problem, send me a pm 

[krea]

The fact that Schumacher won his titles with two teams which were pretty much not even close of being title winning material, should basically put him at the top. He basically did what most drivers wishes they could pull off but didn't archive twice. 

[Sterzo]

Didn't want to start a new topic for this, but the paper edition of Autosport on 22nd August had several pages devoted to Ayrton Senna, definitely one of the top 100!

 

At first I sighed - articles on Senna again? - but they really are excellent. As, indeed, is Autosport week after week in 2024.

 

Amongst other things, there are interviews with every one of his F1 race engineers, plus Dick Bennetts who ran him in F3. A recurring theme is Senna's rare understanding of and feedback about engine performance. From ignition timing in F3, to inlet control on the F1 turbo Honda, he found out how it worked and was able to relate it to how he drove and what advantage it could give. We all know Honda were fans of him, but it wasn't just because he was so good. His discussions with the Honda engineers enabled them to develop the motor's characteristics in a way that complemented the driver's skills. And that level of technical feedback is rare.

[Risil]

Aside from everything else it's good to hear that Autosport has found its publishing mojo after some really wobbly times.

[George Costanza]

The fact that Schumacher won his titles with two teams which were pretty much not even close of being title winning material, should basically put him at the top. He basically did what most drivers wishes they could pull off but didn't archive twice.

Benetton was a great team.

[George Costanza]

Didn't want to start a new topic for this, but the paper edition of Autosport on 22nd August had several pages devoted to Ayrton Senna, definitely one of the top 100!

At first I sighed - articles on Senna again? - but they really are excellent. As, indeed, is Autosport week after week in 2024.

Amongst other things, there are interviews with every one of his F1 race engineers, plus Dick Bennetts who ran him in F3. A recurring theme is Senna's rare understanding of and feedback about engine performance. From ignition timing in F3, to inlet control on the F1 turbo Honda, he found out how it worked and was able to relate it to how he drove and what advantage it could give. We all know Honda were fans of him, but it wasn't just because he was so good. His discussions with the Honda engineers enabled them to develop the motor's characteristics in a way that complemented the driver's skills. And that level of technical feedback is rare.

Michael Schumacher was very similar.