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#151 68targa

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Posted 24 July 2024 - 14:32

I'm surprised this thread didn't start from the  "Get Go" 



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#152 D-Type

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Posted 24 July 2024 - 19:51

It's not only motor sport commentators but tennis commentators infuriate me with their use of "Grand Slam" for a "Grand Slam qualifying tournament".  It's equivalent from saying Oscar Piastri has just won his first World Championship or the Lewis Hamilton has won a record 104 World Championships.



#153 pacificquay

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Posted 24 July 2024 - 21:17

I'm Yorkshire born and bred, and for self defence purposes in my school days I must have had a fairly pronounced local accent, though I was always corrected by my father if I didn't speak 'properly' at home. I moved around the Country a bit after that, and spent several years in Manchester and then East Anglia, mainly Norfolk, so all traces of accents more or less cancelled each other out, and now having lived almost half my life on the south coast of England, I'm pretty much accentless. I've also spent time in France and Germany and am fairly fluent in both languages. Wife Anne insists that I speak both languages, German especially, with a noticeable Sheffield accent. Most Germans tend to assume initially that I'm either Bavarian or Dutch though.

You do have an accent then, a southern English one.

 

No-one is accentless



#154 barrykm

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Posted 25 July 2024 - 07:35

Has 'front axle' and/or 'rear axle' been mentioned yet? This always make me think of the soapbox carts we made when we were youngsters.

 

This drives me crazy when mentioned in conjunction and under and over rotation  :mad:



#155 BRG

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Posted 25 July 2024 - 08:57

Yes, it gets to me too.  Makes you think of a leaf-spring live rear axle on the cars.



#156 Vitesse2

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Posted 25 July 2024 - 09:03

Front nose ...



#157 E1pix

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Posted 25 July 2024 - 17:50

… which is presumably fore of the rear tail.

#158 JacnGille

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Posted 25 July 2024 - 22:52

… which is presumably fore of the rear tail.

What's golf got to do with this topic???  :cool:



#159 10kDA

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Posted 25 July 2024 - 23:02

It's not only motor sport commentators but tennis commentators infuriate me with their use of "Grand Slam" for a "Grand Slam qualifying tournament".  It's equivalent from saying Oscar Piastri has just won his first World Championship or the Lewis Hamilton has won a record 104 World Championships.

I want to know what tennis has to do with baseball.

 

???



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#160 E1pix

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 00:21

What's golf got to do with this topic???  :cool:


Yer waaaay off-topic, Golfs are Volkswagens.

#161 Ray Bell

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 00:59

Front axle? Rear axle?

 

Yes, these exist. But what about 'front windscreen'? 'Rear tail lights'? And the list goes on...



#162 E1pix

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 02:37

How about “flat out” when the pedal’s clearly close to vertical?

#163 john aston

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 05:59

"Full send " and "backing out of it " are especially irksome , almost as much as the term  'turn ' ('Turn 2 'etc) for corner . Fine in Indiana - but at Silverstone or Spa ? No! 



#164 Charlieman

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 06:20

I'll nominate "upgrade", not as an annoyance but as a bad way of thinking. When modifications are made to a car, they are simply that: modifications or changes. There is little testing in F1 nowadays so a change may appear to work in a computer simulation, but there's no guarantee that it works until it has run on the track. If it works, then it can be described as an "upgrade". It's one of the reasons why a change control system is essential in an engineering environment: you need to know what has been modified and what really is an "upgrade".



#165 GregThomas

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 09:30

L J K Setright wrote a very good piece about the origins of a lot of motor racing terms and slang. A large proportion of it came from the bike boys at Brooklands.

 

My beef is that there is one term in current usage which has come the opposite direction

 

"Driver" instead of "Rider" for a motorcycle competitor.  This is becoming very common not only in press reports and articles but also even here on this forum.

 

It is simply wrong.



#166 MCS

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 18:28

"Full send " and "backing out of it " are especially irksome , almost as much as the term  'turn ' ('Turn 2 'etc) for corner . Fine in Indiana - but at Silverstone or Spa ? No! 

What on earth does "Full send" mean?



#167 Vitesse2

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 18:58

What on earth does "Full send" mean?

Harry Flatters?



#168 kayemod

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 19:01

What on earth does "Full send" mean?

 

 

 

At least in Dutch, I think it translates as "Let me through or we crash".



#169 F1matt

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 19:58

I'm surprised this thread didn't start from the  "Get Go" 

we probably should have started with AND IT’S LIGHTS OUT and then somehow shoe horned the OLD SWITCHEROO into the conversation as well….



#170 BRG

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 20:03

Harry Flatters?

He plays for Spennymoor Town FC 



#171 JacnGille

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 23:09

Yer waaaay off-topic, Golfs are Volkswagens.

I never heard anyone yell FORE when their VW ran off the road.



#172 E1pix

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Posted 26 July 2024 - 23:42

They don’t run, they roll. ;-)

#173 Allan Lupton

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Posted 27 July 2024 - 07:21

all sorts of things that are being competed for are "up for grabs" these days. This morning it was Olympic medals.



#174 BRG

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Posted 27 July 2024 - 08:06

I never heard anyone yell FORE when their VW ran off the road.

No, although you might often hear another four letter word starting with F....  ;)



#175 AJCee

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Posted 27 July 2024 - 12:45

all sorts of things that are being competed for are "up for grabs" these days. This morning it was Olympic medals.


And they all seem to be “meddling”…. It’s like a bumper edition of Scooby Doo.

#176 JacnGille

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Posted 27 July 2024 - 13:20

They don’t run, they roll. ;-)

Only yours!  :cool:



#177 kayemod

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Posted 27 July 2024 - 13:26

And they all seem to be “meddling”…. It’s like a bumper edition of Scooby Doo.

 

I remember Garry Glitter doing some meddling somewhere in the Far East, Thailand I think it was.



#178 cpbell

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Posted 27 July 2024 - 14:32

At least we won't be stuck with the problem cricket has adopted...

 

(Doug might like this)

 

There 'batsmen' have become 'batters', but we'll always - I imagine - have 'drivers'.

 

Mind you, some time ago the 'mechanic' became the 'engineer'. In some parts of the world there's the same problem with describing the person who works on your road car. 'Technician' has become popular.

Unless one has a problem with women's cricket, this seems fine?



#179 E1pix

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Posted 28 July 2024 - 03:22

Only yours!  :cool:


So funny I forgot to laugh.

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#180 JacnGille

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Posted 28 July 2024 - 15:14

So funny I forgot to laugh.

Sue the deer.



#181 DogEarred

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Posted 28 July 2024 - 18:18

I didn’t realize the deer was called Sue…

#182 Doug Nye

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Posted 28 July 2024 - 20:04


"And Verstappen's just gone PURPLE!!!!!!!!"...

 

CND



#183 opplock

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Posted 28 July 2024 - 22:05

He may well have done so in Hungary and burst a few blood vessels. He certainly turned the airwaves purple. His fluency in Anglo-Saxon is impressive. Merv Hughes would be proud. 



#184 E1pix

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Posted 29 July 2024 - 01:28

"And Verstappen's just gone PURPLE!!!!!!!!"...
CND

While hesitating to be too particular, that’s more of a lavender.

#185 Doug Nye

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Posted 29 July 2024 - 06:11

Sorry pardon.  Restricted choice of print tints on this website old boy...  I was seeking the International racing colour of Egypt, long-since discussed here.

 

DCN



#186 nicanary

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Posted 29 July 2024 - 08:43

Risen like a Phoenix..........



#187 E1pix

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Posted 29 July 2024 - 15:25

Sorry pardon.  Restricted choice of print tints on this website old boy...  I was seeking the International racing colour of Egypt, long-since discussed here.
 
DCN

I was just kidding, Doug, no harm meant.

#188 d j fox

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Posted 29 July 2024 - 19:27

Spa this weekend…Who else groaned at the words “Turn 5”? Oh and “ Turn 1” …. Please!

#189 B Squared

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Posted 29 July 2024 - 21:34

I'm not too sure that those doing commentary are as astute in following a race as the majority at TNF. I just try to ignore it and enjoy the fact that we have nearly every session and race televised. I grew up where you could only read about it and in the United States, IndyCar was shown a week or two later, cut up and edited on ABC's Wide World of Sports.

ESPN beginning coverage in this country in the 1980s of every Formula One race was also a great gift. I just try to enjoy the races, ignore the BS comments and what the heck, sometimes it's fun to do a little bit of shouting at the TV when you're by yourself to correct the fools.

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Posted 29 July 2024 - 22:46

An annoying trait which I observe in evidence at the Olympics today: when interviewed post-event on their performance, a number of competitors began with, "You know what...".

 

Where has that come from? This phrase seems to have replaced "So..." as the starting point for a conversation.



#191 Porsche718

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Posted 29 July 2024 - 22:54

An annoying trait which I observe in evidence at the Olympics today: when interviewed post-event on their performance, a number of competitors began with, "You know what...".

 

Where has that come from? This phrase seems to have replaced "So..." as the starting point for a conversation.

 

It's better than ... "yeah ... nah" ... when sportsmen (or women) are asked about their performance (or lack thereof).



#192 10kDA

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Posted 29 July 2024 - 22:57

An annoying trait which I observe in evidence at the Olympics today: when interviewed post-event on their performance, a number of competitors began with, "You know what...".

 

Where has that come from? This phrase seems to have replaced "So..." as the starting point for a conversation.

I think it's become The Current Thing to avoid that awkward dead air while someone tries to think of what to say. See: "Well..." and, as you mentioned, "So..."

 

One or both (I can't tell their voices apart but I know it's not Diffey) of NBC's Indy Car commentators habitually use "You know what..." when he or they paraphrase something a driver has told them or when they project a driver's verbal rendition of a recent on-track move.



#193 john aston

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Posted 30 July 2024 - 06:03

I first heard the rhetorical 'You know what ?" about 15 years ago, when (don't ask me how this happened ) Simon Cowell used the phrase to preface his every verdict on some wannabe star . It is being superseded by the more abrupt "Look" , much loved by politicians facing a tough interview . It is now being used increasingly by sports folk . 



#194 Nick Planas

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Posted 30 July 2024 - 07:27

I first heard the rhetorical 'You know what ?" about 15 years ago, when (don't ask me how this happened ) Simon Cowell used the phrase to preface his every verdict on some wannabe star . It is being superseded by the more abrupt "Look" , much loved by politicians facing a tough interview . It is now being used increasingly by sports folk . 

Bring back Kimi and his "Bwoah" - it uses less syllables  :rotfl:



#195 BRG

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Posted 30 July 2024 - 08:31

Spa this weekend…Who else groaned at the words “Turn 5”? Oh and “ Turn 1” …. Please!

You should have watched on Channel 4 where they knew the names of all the corners, including the one that Crofty persists in calling "No Nme"



#196 B Squared

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Posted 30 July 2024 - 11:02

For all the complaints, I want to commend Martin Brundle, not necessarily for any speaking, but for his choice of track location while reporting during the second practice session at Spa. He was on the driver's right at Eau Rouge where he stood between Armco and a concrete barrier past the catch fencing and past the marshal's post. It's been quite some time since I have seen footage that reminded me so much of being on corner duty for Indy cars 30 years ago. Chances are slim, but if anything went wrong there it was not going to be good.

#197 E1pix

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Posted 30 July 2024 - 14:42

I’ve noticed that anyone starting a sentence with “Listen…” never do.