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[HistoryFan]

Stoffel Vandoorne to leave DS Penske => for Maserati, Envision or Nissan

Maximilian Günther rumoured to replace Vandoorne at DS Penske

Nico Müller to leave Abt Cupra, rumoured to join Andretti-Porsche.

Da Costa likely to stay at Porsche.

[thegamer23]

Silly Season started! 

 

Jake Hughes set to exit McLaren, towards Maserati? 
https://www.the-race...la-e-explained/

 

Wonderkid Taylor barnard seems to be the favourite for the McLaren seat nowù

 

 

Also, Dan Ticktum could be a free agent this summer, can't see him staying at ERT one more season and he had offers already

Edited by thegamer23, 23 July 2024 - 10:09.

[sgtkate]

 

 

Also, Dan Ticktum could be a free agent this summer, can't see him staying at ERT one more season and he had offers already

Ticktum has been pretty useless this season and given his reputation for being an ass I'd struggle to see who would want him. I know ERT haven't been exactly stellar this year either so perhaps he has performed well but been hampered by the car, yet he only outscored Sette Camera by 1 point over the season.

[Muppetmad]

Even if Ticktum had Verstappen levels of talent (which he assuredly doesn't), I'm not sure I'd take him.

[efuloni]

Ticktum has been pretty useless this season and given his reputation for being an ass I'd struggle to see who would want him. I know ERT haven't been exactly stellar this year either so perhaps he has performed well but been hampered by the car, yet he only outscored Sette Camera by 1 point over the season.

Honestly, Camara has been better than him most of the time and is more deserving of a better seat, IMO.

[juicy sushi]

They were impressive in 2023 as they'd throw the car up the grid in qualifying, and then hang on through sheer stubbornness as long as they could in the race.  But Nico Mueller did the same thing this year, without having to be a head case in the process (SSC wasn't being one either, mind you).

[thegamer23]

To be fair Ticktum is keeping quite a low profile in FE.

Maybe cause he found even more aggressive guys than him to race with!   

I think he has the speed (same as Sette Camara), so would be nice to see either of them in a more competitive seat. 

[thegamer23]

Seems like Envision is retaining Buemi-Frijns, so no space for Vandoorne there i guess!

https://www.the-race...e-silly-season/

[HistoryFan]

Vandoorne confirmed leaving DS Penske, rumoured to DS Penske with Günther rumoured to join DS Penske.

[HistoryFan]

So it looks like:

 

Jaguar: Mitch Evans – Nick Cassidy

Porsche: Pascal Wehrlein – Antonio Felix da Costa

DS Penske: Jean-Eric Vergne – Maximilian Günther

Nissan:

Andretti-Porsche: Jake Dennis – Nico Müller

Envision-Jaguar: Robin Frijns - Sébastien Buemi

McLaren-Nissan: Taylor Barnard

Maserati: Stoffel Vandoorne - Jake Hughes

Abt Lola Yamaha:

Mahindra: Nyck de Vries – Edoardo Mortara

ERT:

[F1Frog]

I think Rowland, Bird and di Grassi will all stay at their current teams.

[F1Frog]

They were impressive in 2023 as they'd throw the car up the grid in qualifying, and then hang on through sheer stubbornness as long as they could in the race. But Nico Mueller did the same thing this year, without having to be a head case in the process (SSC wasn't being one either, mind you).

I find it interesting that Mueller, Sette-Camara and Ticktum seem better at this than drivers with far more success in good cars like Di Grassi, Frijns, Mortara and De Vries.

[juicy sushi]

I find it interesting that Mueller, Sette-Camara and Ticktum seem better at this than drivers with far more success in good cars like Di Grassi, Frijns, Mortara and De Vries.

I think it's a bit psychological.  If you've always been racing for underdogs, you understand the mentality you need.  I think drivers who come from experiences in very well-resourced teams leads to less appetite for aggressive risk taking as you don't have the same understanding that you need to take every opportunity because that might be the only one.  Also, that group of drivers has a couple who very much do not like the Gen3 experience at all, which will affect things.

[SenorSjon]

So it looks like:

Jaguar: Mitch Evans – Nick Cassidy
Porsche: Pascal Wehrlein – Antonio Felix da Costa
DS Penske: Jean-Eric Vergne – Maximilian Günther
Nissan:
Andretti-Porsche: Jake Dennis – Nico Müller
Envision-Jaguar: Robin Frijns - Sébastien Buemi
McLaren-Nissan: Taylor Barnard
Maserati: Stoffel Vandoorne - Jake Hughes
Abt Lola Yamaha:
Mahindra: Nyck de Vries – Edoardo Mortara
ERT:

Weren't the Envision drivers confirmed earlier this week?

[juicy sushi]

Weren't the Envision drivers confirmed earlier this week?

Not officially, but it's been informally confirmed.  And Rowland and Bird are the same.

[thegamer23]

Daruvala out of the series or he'll manage to get a seat elsewhere?

Wasn't a super impressive season

Edited by thegamer23, 27 July 2024 - 17:45.

[Disgrace]

No idea how or why he got the drive in the first place, really.

[juicy sushi]

De Vries didn’t get fired fast enough. That’s why.

[thegamer23]

Stoffel Vandoorne + Jake Hughes joins MASERATI!

https://www.instagra...jcxcjFmMXpyYnhp

 

Edited by thegamer23, 29 July 2024 - 12:11.

[Jellyfishcake]

Interesting reprieve for Vandoorne, he actually ends up driving for the same powertrain.

But a fresh enviroment, and probably a slightly easier teammate to face, but losing to Vergne is one thing, but Hughes would be a challenge to his future in FE.

 

Likewise Hughes, he looked quick on occasion at McLaren, but things never really came together. 

[maximilian]

Admittedly I haven't been following FE as much as before, but the driver movements these days are pretty random, it seems - almost like meanwhile pretty much every driver has driven for pretty much every team at some point     And some of them hold on to a spot in the series for WAY too long without ever really performing well or doing much to justify it 

[Sterzo]

Admittedly I haven't been following FE as much as before, but the driver movements these days are pretty random, it seems - almost like meanwhile pretty much every driver has driven for pretty much every team at some point     And some of them hold on to a spot in the series for WAY too long without ever really performing well or doing much to justify it 

My equally subjective impression is that the same drivers are milling around the teams, rather than new ones being introduced. Would have expected more churn, given the large supply of "not quite in F1" drivers in the world.

Edited by Sterzo, 29 July 2024 - 16:41.

[juicy sushi]

I think the challenge of the series being rather unique gives it a unique bias towards incumbents.  Also, a lot of team managers seem to feel that the reason these drivers might be on the market was more that their previous team failed them, rather than the driver failed the team.

[Disgrace]

Not basing this on any news, but Nissan could do worse than admitting they got rid of the wrong guy and hire Nato back.

[juicy sushi]

I would agree, but we’ll see if they are that ruthless.

[thegamer23]

To be fair there was quite a turn around of drivers in the last few seasons.

Dennis, Muller, Ticktum, Sette Camara, Fenestraz, Hughes, Daruvala joining, replacing drivers like Rast, Giovinazzi, Askew, Lotterer, De Vries (who eventually came back).

Next season it might be Taylor Barnard joining the field.

The only "OG" that might be little bit stretching his permanence in FE is Di Grassi, the rest is still performing!

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Edited by thegamer23, 29 July 2024 - 20:54.

[juicy sushi]

So, right now I think the grid is looking like:

 

Porsche: Wehrlein, Da Costa

Jaguar: Evans, Cassidy

DS-Penske: Verne, Guenther

Maserati: Vandoorne, Hughes

Envision: Buemi, Frijns

Andretti: Dennis, Muller? 

Nissan: Rowland, Fenestraz?

McLaren: Bird, Barnard?

Mahindra: De Vries, Mortara 

Abt-Lola-Yamaha: Di Grassi, ?

ERT: Ticktum?, Sette Camara?

[thegamer23]

[thegamer23]

Intriguing!

 

Edited by thegamer23, 31 July 2024 - 17:53.

[HistoryFan]

not for 2025, but for 2026 (Gen4): Mahindra could be out:

 

https://www.the-race...quit-formula-e/

[HistoryFan]

Jaguar: Mitch Evans – Nick Cassidy

Porsche: Pascal Wehrlein – Antonio Felix da Costa

DS Penske: Jean-Eric Vergne – Maximilian Günther

Nissan: Oliver Rowland

Andretti-Porsche: Jake Dennis – Nico Müller

Envision-Jaguar: Robin Frijns - Sébastien Buemi

McLaren-Nissan: Taylor Barnard

Maserati: Stoffel Vandoorne - Jake Hughes

Abt Lola Yamaha: Lucas di Grassi

Mahindra: Nyck de Vries – Edoardo Mortara

ERT:

[RSRally]

FE Notebook (https://x.com/fe_not...Q_f4hDpGNw&s=09) are teasing that Rowland's teammate at Nissan will be one of Fenestraz/Nato/Collet/Pouchaire and Di Grassi's Abt-Lola teammate will be Kelvin VDL/Vesti/Tramnitz/Ticktum.

[thegamer23]

Some surprising names rumored there!!

Would love to see Pourchaire in Nissan, he was one of the first driver to test Gen 3.

[HistoryFan]

why Purchaire not to Audi/Sauber in Formula 1?

[F1Frog]

I think Nissan should keep Fenestraz. He was brilliant in season nine and still has potential. And I think Abt should go with Ticktum.

[thegamer23]

why Purchaire not to Audi/Sauber in Formula 1?

Not following F1 silly season a lot but... i guess...money?

You usually need a big bag of money to get a F1 seat if you're not in the right "circle"

FE is still more of a sport in that regard.

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Edited by thegamer23, 09 August 2024 - 10:40.

[thegamer23]

Andretti announces departure of Norman Nato!

 

https://e-formula.ne...rman-nato-90877

Edited by thegamer23, 09 August 2024 - 16:06.

[juicy sushi]

Poor Norman!  This is getting silly.

[RSRally]

Poor Norman! This is getting silly.

I think this has more to do with Porsche needing somewhere to put Muller than a reflection on Nato's performance. Hopefully he'll get a seat elsewhere.

[RSRally]

Latest FE Notebook tweet rumours Bird's McLaren teammate as Barnard/SS Camara/Collet/Aron.

I could see Sette Camara happening if Barnard wants to keep pushing up the F1 ladder as he has prior links to McLaren iirc?

[thegamer23]

Fun fact: Nato drove for 4 different teams in the last 4 seasons.

And he could be on to a 5th one next season!

Bonkers!

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Edited by thegamer23, 10 August 2024 - 07:39.

[Sterzo]

^ He keeps being reborn.

[juicy sushi]

He's clearly good enough, but keeps being the victim of circumstance at every team he goes to.  It's a bizarre pattern.

[maximilian]

To be fair, Nato hasn't exactly had a great season, so his time might rightfully be expiring in FE.  As it is, it's surprising how little influx of NEW drivers there is in the series at the moment... seems like the same old suspects just moving around, without really having achieved much to justify remaining.

[WonderWoman61]

Love that Lola launch livery! Not wishing to go off-subject.

[SenorSjon]

To be fair, Nato hasn't exactly had a great season, so his time might rightfully be expiring in FE.  As it is, it's surprising how little influx of NEW drivers there is in the series at the moment... seems like the same old suspects just moving around, without really having achieved much to justify remaining.

 

With the focus on energy saving and platoon racing, especially on racetracks, experience trumps youth.

[RSRally]

FE Notebook says the grid is now locked in and we should get some more news this week.

[RSRally]

Muller confirmed at Andretti:

https://www.autospor...-team/10644139/

[thegamer23]

I rate Muller very high, some of his drives with ABT Cupra this season have been stunning.

Great lineup at Andretti! 

[RSRally]

From FE notebook:

'More big driver news coming this afternoon! This one will have far-reaching consequences for the rest of Gen3. Stay tuned via @wearetherace #FormulaE'

Edited by RSRally, 14 August 2024 - 09:01.