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[ClubmanGT]

I don't. Third cars are a terrible idea, and always have been. 

 

Imagine a season like last year, where one team is head and shoulders clear of the rest. Suddenly, every race is an easy 1-2-3, and you've eliminated the interest of who can snag a podium. Last year was bad enough, but at least the other teams were closely matched enough that there was still some excitement over who'd get the final podium spot. 

 

Plus, third cars probably increase the chance of team orders too. 

 

Indycar has multiple 3+ car teams. It works. 

[Nathan]

You can't compare it to a league that has promotion and relegation.

 

Then I will compare it to the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, CFL, Japanese baseball, Korean baseball, NASCAR, Indycar.

 

Relegation doesn't mean there can't be 21 teams in the BPL or 19.  20 was determined, and that's the limit.  I'm just saying if it was 24 instead of 20 then more players, coaches, fan bases and cities could play in the big time.  24 is better than 20, no?

[Beri]

Indycar has multiple 3+ car teams. It works.

It wouldn't work in F1 because it doesn't have a true constructors championship like we know in F1.

[JvsKVB77]

 

 

Also, local wildcards would absolutely explode the popularity of the sport in many countries. There's so many Aussie or Kiwi journeymen who just end up in Supercars because F1 isn't accessible without something like Red Bull or FDA backing. SVG/Dixon/McLaughlin/Murphy have proven talent isn't the issue. 

 

Imagine bringing Vettel back for a German Grand Prix, or parachuting in Colton Herta for a US GP. Rallying has already proven how successful this can be, it's time to rethink it for F1. 

We need back German GP firstly) Colton still does not have SL. If Vettel want to race in F1 why he need do it only for 1 race? Why we need drivers for 1 race even if it is Rossi, Loeb, Newgarden, Dixon or someone else? To ruin someones season because this people does not need think about championship and points? And that is even we forget about budget cap, engines restrictions, and other this things. 

[Bleu]

I can see it in about this form:

 

* Each team can field third car in two races.

* No more than two teams can field third car in one event.

* Teams will choose the races with third car in snake draft order.

[noikeee]

In the past, third cars with young drivers (or even not so young) provided a point of interest at a small number of Grands Prix. I don't think they really facilitated anyone's big breakthrough though, that wasn't going to happen anyway.

Giles Villeneuve

[noikeee]

I can see it in about this form:

* Each team can field third car in two races.
* No more than two teams can field third car in one event.
* Teams will choose the races with third car in snake draft order.

I remember I once made a thread suggesting almost the exact same idea, but you've described it in a much more succinct easier way to understand. I'm 100% all for it.

A permanent switch to 3 car teams (for every single race) is bad because it will create an horror show of team orders and push smaller teams even further down the grid. However if you limit the entries like this, I really only see upsides not downsides. Apart from maybe the logistics. If F1 sorts it out it could be great

[garoidb]

Giles Villeneuve

 

I hadn't thought of him, strangely. Yeah, maybe he never gets on Ferrari's radar without the drive in the third McLaren at Silverstone in 1977. It's impossible to know the counterfactual future but his big break was actually getting to race James Hunt, in particular, in Trois Rivieres. That's another thing that would never happen now. But, good point. 

[LolaB0860]

Why we need drivers for 1 race even if it is Rossi, Loeb, Newgarden, Dixon or someone else? To ruin someones season because this people does not need think about championship and points?

There are countless series and events where this happens regularly and they manage it perfectly fine.

[Gyan]

FOM, lads, just give extra windtunnel time/budget cap to teams who hire rookies if you want to see more rookies in the sport. And allow a new team or two while you're at it. No need for such convoluted solutions. 

[ensign14]

I hadn't thought of him, strangely. Yeah, maybe he never gets on Ferrari's radar without the drive in the third McLaren at Silverstone in 1977. It's impossible to know the counterfactual future but his big break was actually getting to race James Hunt, in particular, in Trois Rivieres. That's another thing that would never happen now. But, good point. 

Jody Scheckter.

[Myrvold]

Then I will compare it to the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, CFL, Japanese baseball, Korean baseball, NASCAR, Indycar.

 

Doesn't most of these have some sort of "add team" rule? As in, if they meet a certain criteria, they can join. Like F1 has, but they have decided to ignore?

Also. You can set up your own NASCAR or IndyCar team and join - no problems there. You can even do it part time if you like. So that is a bad comparison.