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#1 molive

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 14:00

From NY Times:

Globe-Trotting Castroneves Proves a Colorful Champion

Helio Castroneves has a theory about why so many Brazilian racecar drivers have gained prominence: "I think when Brazil is not doing well in soccer, they try to find other sports."

Speaking more seriously, Castroneves said leaving soccer- mad Brazil was precisely what he needed.

"I had to go learn a different language, go to a different culture, to do what I love, which is racing," he said. "That creates independence. You create a very strong way to grow. That comes only when you get to a difficult situation, and maybe Brazilians have a better flexibility."

All the years of training in England and Miami and Columbus, Ohio, all the years away from his family and his hometown, São Paulo, paid off for Castroneves on Sunday, when he drove a Team Penske car to victory in the 85th running of the Indianapolis 500.

Castroneves, who earned $1.27 million, beat the second-place finisher, Gil de Ferran, also a Brazilian, also of Team Penske, by 1.73 seconds.

"I made my move and then, thank God, went across the checkered flag," Castroneves, 26, said at a luncheon yesterday in Manhattan. "I actually don't remember if I saw the checkered flag or not. I was so nervous."

With his slight build and impish grin, Castroneves still looks like the boy who fell in love with racing while driving Go Karts.

True to form on Sunday, Castroneves led his pit crew in climbing a retaining fence. Joyously shaking a fist in the air, he showed why many people regard him as the most colorful driver to hit racing in years.

Since he started climbing fences last year, he has been called Spiderman, and he recently showed up at a charity dinner dressed in a red-and-blue Spiderman costume. He considered wearing a helmet adorned with a likeness of Spiderman, but decided against it.

"You have to express your feelings," he said of his postvictory acrobatics.

At age 17, Castroneves went to England to race in British Formula 3. He did not know how to speak English, and neither did his mother, who went to England with him. She quickly returned to Brazil.

Castroneves moved to Columbus and finally Miami. He joined Team Penske for the 2000 season and won three races, including his first victory in the Championship Auto Racing Teams series. That came in Detroit, and that was when Castroneves climbed his first fence.

He was penalized $5,000 for a subsequent climb in Long Beach, Calif., but series officials later dropped the fine.

Castroneves had to find a substitute for his family in Brazil. He has become close to de Ferran, his compatriot. He speaks glowingly of Rick Rinaman, his chief mechanic, who he says is "faster than anybody." And he calls Andy Borme, his engineer of five years, the closest thing he has to a brother.

After the victory, Roger Penske yelled out to Castroneves, "You're the man!"

But it was the words of his mother in the stands that reminded Castroneves of the wisdom of leaving Brazil so many years ago. "I love you," she said. "I'm so proud of you."



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GO HELIO! :)

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#2 Mrv

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 14:13

Oh No another Montoya!!!

#3 tifosi

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 14:18



Why, accordsing to this BB, Indy sucks and is a race for a bunch of washed up has-beens and never-was's. What's so great about that?


Mybe now he can go to F1 and DNF 6 out of 7 races


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#4 The RedBaron

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 14:20

:lol:

#5 molive

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 14:25

Who cares if the 500 is not the same and the IRL drivers suck.

Helio rocks!

#6 Mrv

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 14:40

Montoya was quoted today as saying, "Helio reminds me so much of myself when I was younger":lol: :lol: :lol:

#7 molive

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 14:49

All Helinho has to do now is wrap up the 2001 CART title and he´ll be hot property for a F1 seat in the future.

Mrv, HCN could not be more different than Montoya. He´s a nice character and not full of himself like Juan "I can beat MS" Montoya.

#8 Mrv

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 15:45

Molive I am sure he is a nice fellow. I don't watch cart as I have no interest in it. I am just joking around and I am not being very serious.

#9 Nikolas Garth

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 15:53

Originally posted by Mrv
Montoya was quoted today as saying, "Helio reminds me so much of myself when I was younger":lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :up: :up: :up:

#10 NYR2119935

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 16:06

How could anyone root against Helio???
It's gonna be tough for me now! :)

#11 RedFever

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 16:18

maybe a chance with a Brazilian with at least some talent in F1????

#12 miniman

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 17:09

Luca, give Helio a Ferrari! Ruben's Ferrari :lol:

#13 molive

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 18:27

Originally posted by RedFever
maybe a chance with a Brazilian with at least some talent in F1????


RedF, you never quit, do you?;)

Forget it buddy, Fisichella will NEVER driver a Ferrari...:lol:



#14 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 18:33

And helio will never drive an F1 car.



#15 Lantern

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 19:56

YES!!!!!


I can finally agree with Molive on something involving a driver from Brazil!!!!!!!!!


HELIO RULES THA PLAYGROUND!! :up: :up:

#16 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 20:06

Molive, you'd support a ride buying no talent guy from Sao Paulo just for national pride. No wonder you're so anti-schumacher, you cant even recognise when someone has a little bit of raw ability

#17 molive

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 20:18

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
Molive, you'd support a ride buying no talent guy from Sao Paulo just for national pride. No wonder you're so anti-schumacher, you cant even recognise when someone has a little bit of raw ability


Sorry, but I´ve NEVER (search if you will) posted any fan stuff about Christian Fittipaldi or Pedro Diniz or many other "fellow" brazilians, you´re generalizing to make a point. The fact that I like Helio and Gil (I think GDF is better than RB, btw) doesn´t mean I´ll support whoever gets a ride.

And, no, I´m not an anti-MS per-se, or anti-german for that matter. I fully recognize MS´s one of the best all time (no point denying). The fact is that I don´t like him as a person, his flawed character, if you will, and I get annoyed when he gets so much attention and gets compared to the ones I really admired (like AS, AP, NM, etc).

nuff said. bye!

#18 Lantern

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Posted 30 May 2001 - 23:24

Originally posted by molive
I fully recognize MS´s one of the best all time (no point denying). The fact is that I don´t like him as a person, his flawed character, if you will, and I get annoyed when he gets so much attention and gets compared to the ones I really admired (like AS, AP, NM, etc).



:confused: I am a little confused Molive. Why would you get annoyed if schuey is compared to AS,AP,NM, ect if you consider him one of the best of all time.

Is it because of his "flawed character" alone?


Just thought I would ask. Because I have always had people I just didn't like in sport even though they were one of the very best in their sport. But I have never gotten annoyed when an athlete I respect is compared with one I didn't like personally but thought was great, since they weren't comparing their personalities just how well each of then performed in their craft.


Just as my favorite tennis player of all time is Boris Becker and the player I hate more than any other is Andre (f)agassi. Yet I recognise he is great and have no problem with his comparison to "Boom Boom".




.....Sorry for going off topic so....Helio RULZ!!

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Posted 31 May 2001 - 00:46

Originally posted by Mrv
Montoya was quoted today as saying, "Helio reminds me so much of myself when I was younger":lol: :lol: :lol:


Montoya is younger than Helio

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#20 senninha

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Posted 31 May 2001 - 02:47

Originally posted by molive


RedF, you never quit, do you?;)

Forget it buddy, Fisichella will NEVER driver a Ferrari...:lol:


In fact Fisi had a great chance to drive one Ferrari... but he bought a PORSCHE as his STREET car!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted 31 May 2001 - 02:53

Originally posted by Mrv
Oh No another Montoya!!!


translating:

Oh No another Montoya (southamerican under developed GREAT driver invading european place).


BTW: Helio buy a ride for Penske ????

I remember Helio lost his manager (Emmo) and broke a contract with Hogan - with a payment - just to sign with Penske.

Some people here are crazy: i can except every bs.

Maybe Helio was guilty for Moore's death, too.
Bastard boy from Sao Paulo.

GO HELIO !!!

#22 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 31 May 2001 - 04:01

broke a contract with Hogan? Hogan was gone and Helio had no ride, then Moore died

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Posted 31 May 2001 - 05:46

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
broke a contract with Hogan? Hogan was gone and Helio had no ride, then Moore died


yea that pretty much sums it up.

:cry: for Moore
:D for Helio

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Posted 31 May 2001 - 07:19

Originally posted by molive


The fact is that I don´t like him as a person, his flawed character, if you will, and I get annoyed when he gets so


Excuse me while I choke on my sandwich LMAO!:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

How the feck would you know. Thats the dumbest comment I have ever seen on this BB, and I am 100% serious

charachter is flawed :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW -I think it'd be good for Helio to get a chance, but I can think of only one driver who deserves to be booted from F1 and that is Marques.

#25 molive

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Posted 31 May 2001 - 11:54

Yep, that´s exactly what I meant, flawed character, meaning he gives (rather, gave) the word "champion" a bad rep by ramming into Hill (Damon Hill, of all people!) and trying (but happily not succeding) to do the same with JV. That´s how the feck I know. :rolleyes:

And don´t gimme that BS that AS did the same. Senna was f* up by Prost/Balestre in a WDC that should have been his, and only got REVENGE, which is a completely different thing, the following year. MS used his dirty tactics against drivers who had never done anything wrong (at least in the race track) against him.

Now, get on with your sandwich...;)


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Posted 31 May 2001 - 12:02

And to add just a little comment: WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE TO BRING MS INTO A THREAD, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE MAIN TOPIC IS? this is so fraking annoying! And that´s the reason why I should just quit the board all together. This BB is so pro-MS-butt-kissing it sickens me!



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Posted 31 May 2001 - 13:50

Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
broke a contract with Hogan? Hogan was gone and Helio had no ride, then Moore died


No, you deadly wrong. You're changing the order of things.

1st - Moore died first. Afterall, team Hogan was alive in Fontana, racing too !

2nd - Helio broke a contract with Hogan, against Fittipaldi opinion. They didn't talk until today. Emmo, as Helio's manager, was using his prestigee with Mercedes (Hogan's engine) and Helio turned a "Mercedes driver" linked to F1, including;

3rd - Without Helio, Emmo gave up buying part of Hogan team;

4th - Hogan had no money from Emmo and decided to close the door.

#28 molive

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Posted 31 May 2001 - 17:15

A poll conducted by a Brazilian Racing site, they asked who the fans wanted to see in a F1 car, the answers:

Hélio Castroneves 519 30%
Gil de Ferran 408 24%
Antônio Pizzonia 383 22%
Cristiano da Matta 225 13%
None of the above 112 7%
Bruno Junqueira 47 3%
Tony Kanaan 23 1%


Maybe I should change my sig to : Give Helio a F1! :)

#29 Lantern

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Posted 31 May 2001 - 19:34

Originally posted by molive
And to add just a little comment: WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS HAVE TO BRING MS INTO A THREAD, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE MAIN TOPIC IS? this is so fraking annoying! And that´s the reason why I should just quit the board all together. This BB is so pro-MS-butt-kissing it sickens me!



:down: :down:



Excuse me kind sir. But the first person to type MS(as in Michael Schumacher) is you.:lol:




#30 molive

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Posted 31 May 2001 - 21:34

yes I did, in Juan "I can beat MS" Montoya...:rolleyes:

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Posted 01 June 2001 - 04:39

Molive - your reasoning isflawed in the fact that Schumacher is never gonna be good enough for you. Senna was Brazillian, Schumacher is not, and that is the root of all you excessive, unrelenting, and over the top complaints. Give it up, you are way to transparent.:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted 01 June 2001 - 08:16

I just wanted to elaborate on how nice a guy Helio is. I think he could do some good for whatever series he races in. I remember back in 1998, I met him at Nazareth and talked to him for a few minutes, and he was extremely down to earth, very cordial, polite, and kind-hearted. I also remember he was good with little children! That should come in handy should he ever team with JPM

:up:

In fact, that first time I had asked him to autograph an alumax t-shirt for me, and in 2000 I saw him again in Mid-Ohio (where he won that weekend). I saw him, and I was actually wearing the alumax shirt from his rookie sponsor, and he was impressed, and even claimed to have remembered me. Now I know this is impossible, but that he even bothered to say that, and to pretend, speaks very highly of his character. When after winning the race, he was interviewed on the track PA system, he had a certain sincerety and euphoria in his voice that was really touching and satisfying. So I say, wherever you go, Helio, best of luck to you, you are truly a class act in a sea of arrogant and self-centered me-firsts.

:) :up: :)

#33 RedFever

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Posted 01 June 2001 - 14:48

Fisichella doesn't have to drive a Ferrari, any good car will do, unlike Barichello he has speed and lots of it. A Jordan or Bar or Williams would be more than enough, thank you very much. Besides, this Bennetton is the left over of people who don't work there any more. Gascoyne arrived and realized that sure they could imrpove it but would not be able to focus entirely on the 2002 car. So, he basically stopped testing for 2 months on the current car to have his designers focus on next year's model. Plus, Renault is already working on evolutions of the engine. Chances are, Renault will be already a mid-field car by next year. So, even staying with Renault, it could turn out to be a good move for Fisi.

The issue is not about Fisi driving a Ferrari or not. The issue is about speed. Fisi is faster than Rubens, simple as that. Besides, I doubt Fisi would be interested in a contract where he has to move over and let Schumi by, I guess as far as he is concerned, Rubens can keep that role all for himself.

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Posted 01 June 2001 - 22:34

when was this thread about fisi anyways?

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Posted 01 June 2001 - 22:46

Okay, nothing is good. Helio sucks, MS sucks, the indy500 sucks.

There are definitely some people here with a dark cloud over their heads (lives?).
Given that it's easier to hate than love, I'd wager that some need to try a little harder to see the bright side.






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Posted 01 June 2001 - 23:05

Originally posted by senninha


No, you deadly wrong. You're changing the order of things.

1st - Moore died first. Afterall, team Hogan was alive in Fontana, racing too !

2nd - Helio broke a contract with Hogan, against Fittipaldi opinion. They didn't talk until today. Emmo, as Helio's manager, was using his prestigee with Mercedes (Hogan's engine) and Helio turned a "Mercedes driver" linked to F1, including;

3rd - Without Helio, Emmo gave up buying part of Hogan team;

4th - Hogan had no money from Emmo and decided to close the door.


nope:

1. Hogan announces on Friday of Fontana he is closing his doors because he has no sponsor. Helio out of ride.

2. Greg Moore dies

3. Helio is signed to replace Moore

4. Helio fires Emmo because Emmo was against his move to Team Penske

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Posted 01 June 2001 - 23:17

Yes, give Helio a Minardi!!! Maybe that's the F1 he deserves...

Montoya last year outraced, autqualified, out everything all about Helio... And the Toyota wasn't as good car as the Reynard-Honda Helio is an average driver.. Also he is a very dirty driver, the move that he done last Sunday against Buhl, is the same that he did to Montoya in many CART races during the last years... Helio would be nothing in F1....

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Posted 02 June 2001 - 03:17

Helio 7th, Montoya 9th in the championship. Yes....he sure did out everything Helio:rolleyes:

Maybe Jimmy Vasser deserves that Williams F1 seat since he finished 6th in the championship:lol:



I guess everyone has a way at looking at things...

...and twisting things(I may have been guilty of this at times;)) but the bottom line is that I have always been a fan of Helio and after what has to be one of the truest shows of pure happiness in the winners circle at Indy last weekend I found myself becoming an even bigger fan of HCN.

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Posted 02 June 2001 - 03:49

Lantern. Had Ganassi not opted for changing engines (Honda to Toyota), Montoya would have quite easily won the Cart title in '00. After winning the 500 last year, Montoya was leading the Milwaukee race and his p!sspoor Toyota blew up. That was just one of many examples where Toyota reliability really hurt Montoya.

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Posted 02 June 2001 - 04:10

Originally posted by Lantern
Helio 7th, Montoya 9th in the championship. Yes....he sure did out everything Helio:rolleyes:

Maybe Jimmy Vasser deserves that Williams F1 seat since he finished 6th in the championship:lol:



I guess everyone has a way at looking at things...

...and twisting things(I may have been guilty of this at times;)) but the bottom line is that I have always been a fan of Helio and after what has to be one of the truest shows of pure happiness in the winners circle at Indy last weekend I found myself becoming an even bigger fan of HCN.


Sad quote!!! The only thing that you read are the results??? Montoya has the most leaded laps in the championship (even more than De Ferran, more poles, more wins... Please don't make me laugh.... :evil:

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Posted 02 June 2001 - 07:12

Originally posted by molive
Yep, that´s exactly what I meant, flawed character, meaning he gives (rather, gave) the word "champion" a bad rep by ramming into Hill (Damon Hill, of all people!) and trying (but happily not succeding) to do the same with JV. That´s how the feck I know. :rolleyes:

And don´t gimme that BS that AS did the same. Senna was f* up by Prost/Balestre in a WDC that should have been his, and only got REVENGE, which is a completely different thing, the following year. MS used his dirty tactics against drivers who had never done anything wrong (at least in the race track) against him.

Now, get on with your sandwich...;)


So by this reasoning Jos was justified in ending Heidfeld's race in Monaco?

#42 Lantern

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Posted 02 June 2001 - 08:05

Originally posted by MP4/?


Sad quote!!! The only thing that you read are the results??? Montoya has the most leaded laps in the championship (even more than De Ferran, more poles, more wins... Please don't make me laugh.... :evil:


All I was doing was showing how things can be twisted to look any way someone wants it to look. I even made mention of how I am guilty of it from time to time. The vasser comment should have made it apparently clear that the whole post was tongue in cheek.:rolleyes:

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Posted 02 June 2001 - 14:41

Originally posted by Chris G.
Okay, nothing is good. Helio sucks, MS sucks, the indy500 sucks.

There are definitely some people here with a dark cloud over their heads (lives?).
Given that it's easier to hate than love, I'd wager that some need to try a little harder to see the bright side.






Perfect comment!!:up: :up: :up:

I HATE it too.:drunk: :p

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Posted 02 June 2001 - 14:46

Originally posted by Rahalnut


nope:

1. Hogan announces on Friday of Fontana he is closing his doors because he has no sponsor. Helio out of ride.

2. Greg Moore dies

3. Helio is signed to replace Moore

4. Helio fires Emmo because Emmo was against his move to Team Penske


First: Moore's fans don't need to get nervous. Helio ONLY went to Penske AFTER Moore death. Period!!


1. As i said before, Emerson would buy at least of Hogan's team and Carl WOULD keep as a "race chief";

4. You can see clealy your first comente make no sense. If Emmo was against Helio at Penske (Fittipaldi'd like to keep Helio as a Mercedes driver), is because Helio had a seat !!!:stoned:

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Posted 03 June 2001 - 00:11

interesting arguments indeed.

#46 MP4/?

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Posted 03 June 2001 - 02:16

Some people have all the truth with them and anybody else but them have the reason... If you try to notice that their are in a mistake, they bash... because you have doubt of "truth"...

Really I'm sorry of this kind of people.... :(

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Posted 03 June 2001 - 02:52

Yep. :)