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Hypothetical endurance capability of current F1 cars


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Poll: Hypothetical endurance capabilities (10 member(s) have cast votes)

If we're talking MAXIMUM capabilities, for how long do you think current F1 cars could last in a single race (NOTE: tire+fuel rules would be relaxed)?

  1. 500 Kilometers (2 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  2. 1000 Kilometers (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 6 Hours (5 votes [50.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  4. 8 Hours (1 votes [10.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  5. 10 Hours (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 12 Hours (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 13-23 Hours (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. 24 Hours or more (2 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

If the upcoming United States GP distance was suddenly switched to 1000 KM, how many of the current 20 cars would finish the race in classified position? (NOTE: In this scenario there's no DNFs by accident damage, and tire+fuel rules would be relaxed)

  1. None of them would finish (2 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  2. 1-5 cars would finish (1 votes [10.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  3. 6-10 cars would finish (2 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. 11-15 cars would finish (2 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  5. 16-20 cars would finish (3 votes [30.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

Would you be interested in seeing F1 Grand Prix with greater length than 300 KM?

  1. Yes, on regular or semi-regular basis (2 votes [20.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  2. Maybe as one-off somewhere (3 votes [30.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  3. Not really (5 votes [50.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

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#1 LolaB0860

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Posted Yesterday, 18:54

If refueling was allowed again in meaningful fashion and Pirelli brought in unlimited set tires, for how long do you think the current F1 cars/teams could last?

 

Of course, many of the modern components and qualities of the cars are already meant to last for a very long time (engines up to several thousand kilometers) in the everlasting search for longevity, however we're talking of continuous race here.

 

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Edited by LolaB0860, Yesterday, 18:56.


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#2 Stephane

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Posted Yesterday, 18:58

Depends a lot on which track

#3 PlatenGlass

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Posted Yesterday, 19:06

Good question. Some people say that the best components fail as soon as they've done the required distance but that's not really true because failures are to a large extent probabilistic and also failure is not always all or nothing so some parts might suffer worse performance before actually failing.

I'm not sure of the answer but I don't see why they wouldn't at least do two or three GPs fairly comfortably and probably more.

#4 highdownforce

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Posted Yesterday, 19:08

More than a Vanwall.

#5 Jerem

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Posted Yesterday, 21:17

I guess the brakes would be the among most critical parts, on some tracks it's just not possible to go much longer than race distance on those brakes.



#6 Grippy

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Posted Yesterday, 21:46

At some circuits they might be limited by brake-disc wear. They could use more durable materials but would have longer braking distances.

and I have no idea what sort of fluids they use in a race. I assume with better tolerances less than earlier years.

400km would be ok but we've got WEC for longer distances.

 

edit slow typing while watching a film, so @Jerem beat me on the brakes issue.


Edited by Grippy, Yesterday, 21:48.


#7 LolaB0860

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Posted Today, 07:35

Yes I imagine Spa and Monaco would treat the durability quite differently. Similarly, 1000kms at Monza could be more doable than 6 Hours due to the speed of that race.

I assume COTA would be alright all-rounder benchmark, being typical Tilkedrome

Edited by LolaB0860, Today, 07:36.


#8 PlatenGlass

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Posted Today, 08:13

Good point on the brakes.

#9 IrvTheSwerve

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Posted Today, 08:53

With the current regs I would wager they could turn stuff down and lift-and-coast to 6 hours…