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[krea]

But it's a bit strong to accuse another team when your team would now breach the regulations without changes to the wings.

 

When did you get the impression that Brown do care not to look like a hypocrite?  

[sterlingfan2000]

https://www.motorspo...-tool/10665225/

Wolff attacks Redbull again.

Also Redbull lost Race Pace in Austin, is this related to this fix ?

Hopefully we get an answer. Vasseur and now Toto Wolff also wants an investigation despite FIA saying matter is closed

Edited by sterlingfan2000, 21 October 2024 - 11:07.

[gillesfan76]

Zak Brown’s affidavit suggestion is a good one. If they’re telling the truth then this should be fine right?

 

Red Bull have had this for 3 years and Rob Marshall now works for McLaren. I can imagine Zak has straight out asked Rob what this arrangement is about, given it’s been there when Rob was at the team and perhaps Rob has told Brown enough that Brown isn’t letting this go. Affidavit is a good idea and I’m surprised the FIA hasn’t used that as a tool previously and routinely to weed out issues of potential cheating.

[Stephane]

Now, is Zak ok having employed a cheater that is also backstabbing his old team for said cheating?

[RedRabbit]

https://www.motorspo...-tool/10665225/

Wolff attacks Redbull again.

Also Redbull lost Race Pace in Austin, is this related to this fix ?

Hopefully we get an answer. Vasseur and now Toto Wolff also wants an investigation despite FIA saying matter is closed

Toto basically admits in that interview that he doesn't actually know how the device works. "... from my distance...."

[gillesfan76]

Now, is Zak ok having employed a cheater that is also backstabbing his old team for said cheating?

 

Who cares? Largely irrelevant. Who’s willing to sign an affidavit is far more interesting a question.

[Ali_G]

This is some theatre from Brown. Completely leaving Horner’s previous antics in the shade.

If the RBR mechanics are to sign an affidavit, why not have every team member on the entire grid do the same to say they have never knowingly cheated.

Edited by Ali_G, 21 October 2024 - 14:10.

[SCUDmissile]

Why are all sports becoming professional wrestling hahahaha

[SenorSjon]

https://www.motorspo...-tool/10665225/

Wolff attacks Redbull again.

Also Redbull lost Race Pace in Austin, is this related to this fix ?

Hopefully we get an answer. Vasseur and now Toto Wolff also wants an investigation despite FIA saying matter is closed

 

Wolff needs a bit of distraction from the team this weekend.

 

And, RB was fine between Sprint Q and R. So no. 

[PayasYouRace]

Zak Brown’s affidavit suggestion is a good one. If they’re telling the truth then this should be fine right?

Red Bull have had this for 3 years and Rob Marshall now works for McLaren. I can imagine Zak has straight out asked Rob what this arrangement is about, given it’s been there when Rob was at the team and perhaps Rob has told Brown enough that Brown isn’t letting this go. Affidavit is a good idea and I’m surprised the FIA hasn’t used that as a tool previously and routinely to weed out issues of potential cheating.

How is that a good idea? For an affidavit to have any value you need physical evidence to support it. Otherwise it’s just one word against an other. The FIA already have all the physical evidence they could get for the case, and they can’t go back and check. So anyone’s going to be willing to sign their name against a statement saying they didn’t cheat.

[Heyli]

How is that a good idea? For an affidavit to have any value you need physical evidence to support it. Otherwise it’s just one word against an other. The FIA already have all the physical evidence they could get for the case, and they can’t go back and check. So anyone’s going to be willing to sign their name against a statement saying they don’t cheat.

Worst part is that the Fia already admitted that as well. Going to be difficult to bluff towards the employees saying "we know what you did, just admit it!".

[jonklug]

Zak Brown’s affidavit suggestion is a good one. If they’re telling the truth then this should be fine right?

 

Red Bull have had this for 3 years and Rob Marshall now works for McLaren. I can imagine Zak has straight out asked Rob what this arrangement is about, given it’s been there when Rob was at the team and perhaps Rob has told Brown enough that Brown isn’t letting this go. Affidavit is a good idea and I’m surprised the FIA hasn’t used that as a tool previously and routinely to weed out issues of potential cheating.

 

But I thought Zak said he trusts the FIA and the FIA have said it's a non story. Sounds like someone is ultra bitter. He tries to be Toto so bad, it's transparent af. 

[speedyenrico]

It is a good thing for Zac and his employees that they did not had to sign an affidavit around the RW development

Edited by speedyenrico, 21 October 2024 - 20:22.

[PitViperRacing]

New FIA strategy. Get every employee of every team to sign an affidavit stating that they've never cheated and will immediately report any occurrence of cheating that they see or hear about.

Unreal that people are legitimately pushing for this lmao

Edited by PitViperRacing, 22 October 2024 - 10:07.

[Ali_G]

Knew FIA strategy. Get every employee of every team to sign an affidavit stating that they've never cheated and will immediately report any occurrence of cheating that they see or hear about.

Unreal that people are legitimately pushing for this lmao

It’s ludicrous isn’t it. And I can’t see any argument against doing it if the RBR mechanics are asked to do it.

[Secretariat]

I used to get annoyed watching/reading team principals bicker at each other. In recent times, it's Horner and Brown. However, now I chuckle when I imagine them as Jim Cornette and Bobby "The Brain" Heenan. Definitely less annoying.   

[Ivanhoe]

FIA factory investigation clears Red Bull over front bib allegations

[jonklug]

FIA factory investigation clears Red Bull over front bib allegations

 

Also of note is that they didn't find anyone doing anything dodgy with cooling the tires in Brazil but will continue to monitor the situation. 

[krea]

Tires were clearly wet though. FIA are looking away once again

[Henri Greuter]

I used to get annoyed watching/reading team principals bicker at each other. In recent times, it's Horner and Brown. However, now I chuckle when I imagine them as Jim Cornette and Bobby "The Brain" Heenan. Definitely less annoying. 

 

 

And who is your F1 equivalent of Jimmy `mouth of tthe south` Hart ???

[DW46]

And who is your F1 equivalent of Jimmy `mouth of tthe south` Hart ???

EJ