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[kumo7]

It is up to the talks in the town and the results. 

[loki]

How else can you read it? 

 

Plus, chassis registration is for FIA's business. Teams name and how it will be broadcasred will NOT be the business of FIA, but of FOM. 

It’s the name of the entrant the FIA accepted and F1 rejected.   I reckon the company will be renamed after they get in with the chassis being Cadillac.

[RedRabbit]

McLaren and Aston Martin are manufacturers, as is Alpine. Should they too be required to run their own PUs?

Always just being contrary. McLaren don't manufacture their own production engines, they use a specialist in Ricaro (sp?), and Aston Martin production engines are Mercedes based.

Ideally, I would prefer all teams to build their own engines or have a manufacturer partner though.

An F1 engine should be capable of being built by specialists like Cosworth, Judd, Ricaro etc.

[BRG]

Always just being contrary. McLaren don't manufacture their own production engines, they use a specialist in Ricaro (sp?), and Aston Martin production engines are Mercedes based.

Ideally, I would prefer all teams to build their own engines or have a manufacturer partner though.

An F1 engine should be capable of being built by specialists like Cosworth, Judd, Ricaro etc.

Ricardo are McLaren's contracted engine builder who builds the engines as specified by McLaren.  It is a McLaren engine, nobody else can or does use it, and they are the sole owner of the right to it.   And Aston still use some of their own engines,

[kumo7]

It’s the name of the entrant the FIA accepted and F1 rejected.   I reckon the company will be renamed after they get in with the chassis being Cadillac.

 

Yes, OK, it may indeed become Cadillac chassis. 

 

But Ferrari said it closed the contract with Andretti. OK, this contract can be redefined when the team organization gets the new branding. 

Which means, Andretti to sell the part of F1 operation to Cadillac, or some sort of lease agreement.

It is very much like Enstone, being Lotus, Renault, Alpine, or Sauber being Alfa, ... and to AUDI. In such way(s), the team will be called Cadillac.

 

In a way it is the same way as Acura in IMSA series

Edited by kumo7, Today, 11:09.

[LolaB0860]

Magnussen snr had Caddy links and a good relationship I believe.

He drove factory Corvette GT1s and GT2s for many years

[MRX94]

Ricardo are McLaren's contracted engine builder who builds the engines as specified by McLaren.  It is a McLaren engine, nobody else can or does use it, and they are the sole owner of the right to it.   And Aston still use some of their own engines,

It's legally a McLaren engine, but in actuality the current 4.0 V8 that powers many McLaren road cars had it's beginnings as a Nissan engine, and was developed by Tom Walkinshaw Racing, from whom McLaren bought the intellectual rights. Then McLaren and Ricardo further developed it and the latter builds them for McLaren.

So in reality it's quite a far cry from, say a Ferrari engine, which is designed, developed and built at Maranello.

[le chat noir]

The FIA entry goes to the company. The company is Andretti, but this company is now being led by another company. Still, the Ferrari contract is with the company that has the F1 entry, and that will be Andretti.

The company name may well change in time, but the company number will remain the same.

 

This way you trace Mercedes back to Tyrell - same number, same company - and Red Bull to Stewart etc etc.

 

Funny they haven't yet changed the company name, but Ferrari can only say who they have done the contract with, and then shoehorn in the fact it's now led by others.

 

This doesn't affect the chassis name or team name, I don't think.

 

RB was team name, Racing Bulls was company name. I don't recall chassis name though.

Edited by le chat noir, Today, 15:27.

[kumo7]

The FIA entry goes to the company. The company is Andretti, but this company is now being led by another company. Still, the Ferrari contract is with the company that has the F1 entry, and that will be Andretti.
The company name may well change in time, but the company number will remain the same.

This way you trace Mercedes back to Tyrell - same number, same company - and Red Bull to Stewart etc etc.

Funny they haven't yet changed the company name, but Ferrari can only say who they have done the contract with, and then shoehorn in the fact it's now led by others.

This doesn't affect the chassis name or team name, I don't think.

RB was team name, Racing Bulls was company name. I don't recall chassis name though.

yup.

[loki]

Yes, OK, it may indeed become Cadillac chassis. 

 

But Ferrari said it closed the contract with Andretti. OK, this contract can be redefined when the team organization gets the new branding. 

Which means, Andretti to sell the part of F1 operation to Cadillac, or some sort of lease agreement.

It is very much like Enstone, being Lotus, Renault, Alpine, or Sauber being Alfa, ... and to AUDI. In such way(s), the team will be called Cadillac.

 

In a way it is the same way as Acura in IMSA series

That’s not how GM operates factory race programs.  They don’t own the operation.  Andretti Global’s parent TWG Global owns the F1 race operation with Cadillac as an operating partner.  It’s the same sort of deal that TWG owned WTR has with Cadillac in IMSA.  The switch in naming from Andretti to TWG was due to the dustup Micheal had with Liberty and the teams.