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[Heyli]

It was banned last year after friday when Max did this:
https://www.formula1...458127207689642

another rule change due to Verstappen where someone else gets the penalty!

[jAnO76]

another rule change due to Verstappen where someone else gets the penalty!

He should run for FIA president! Slam dunk shoe in!

[Autodromo]

Anyone taking odds on Oscar and Lando taking each other out in Turn 1, leading to a Ferrari WCC?

[Deeq]

Haas is frigging good! Out qualifying RBR & Mercedes...in dry track. Best of the rest by far.😎👍
For Leclerc & Ferrari when it rains..
At least it simplifies teams decision, no need to worry about a miniscule WCC win anymore.

Edited by Deeq, 07 December 2024 - 20:31.

[Claudius]

It's ridiculous how many penalties seem to be given every race weekend these days.

Except for Russell it seems.

[Nemo1965]

Except he didn’t. He got out of the way.

He tried to get out of the way but couldn’t. Still impeded Lawson. Or are you saying that intent does trump actual, physical events? It never has, in the past.

[vlado]

Sebastian Vettel holds the record for the biggest comeback

From the Pit Lane to P3 in 2012 (+21 places)

https://x.com/f1bigd...zg-bv2n8am2mMAg

[KWSN - DSM]

Sebastian Vettel holds the record for the biggest comeback

From the Pit Lane to P3 in 2012 (+21 places)

https://x.com/f1bigd...zg-bv2n8am2mMAg

 

John Watson winning Long Beach 1983 after qualifying 22nd?

[Nemo1965]

John Watson winning Long Beach 1983 after qualifying 22nd?

The McLaren team as a whole recouped 44 places, because Lauda finished second, having qualified 23rd.

[vlado]

I think that’s specifically for this race

[KWSN - DSM]

I think that’s specifically for this race

 

Meaning?

[Clatter]

Is that standard wording? The Next race the driver participates in? Is that Not tomorrow?

 

It's the standard wording. In this case the next race is tomorrow

[Clatter]

I'm confused too. No, that's not the usual wording. It almost sounds as if they're saying the grid penalty will be for the first race of 2026? When Hülkenberg will be with Sauber?

 

It is the standard wording. I honestly don't see the confusion. Penalty applied at the next race seems very clear to me. Next race is tomorrow, unless he doesn't participate, in which case it would be once he is at Sauber.

This one is from Belgium.

https://www.fia.com/...ng of Car 1.pdf

Edited by Clatter, 07 December 2024 - 22:47.

[messy]

Hoping for a good race tomorrow, but I think it’ll probably be fairly lacking in final day drama, McLaren can barely lose the WCC from here. A win for Sainz in his final race for Ferrari would be nice though, and I reckon Lewis will probably put in a few nice overtakes on his way to 6th or 7th. Best chance of fireworks is probably him and/or Leclerc coming up through the field, or Briatore dangling the sword over Jack Doohan’s head as he trundles round at the back. F1 with three weeks or whatever to Christmas feels weird. Ready for the break personally, much as this has been a genuinely interesting year.

[KWSN - DSM]

What was the deal/story with the young woman being shown sitting on top of 'something' which seemed as the top above a top of a tall building?

[Hinkypunk]

What was the deal/story with the young woman being shown sitting on top of 'something' which seemed as the top above a top of a tall building?

Wasn't it a boat?

[FLB]

The grid: https://www.fia.com/...arting Grid.pdf

 

Hulk is P7.

[Nobody]

What was the deal/story with the young woman being shown sitting on top of 'something' which seemed as the top above a top of a tall building?

 

I think it was the mast of daddy's yacht

[KWSN - DSM]

Wasn't it a boat?

 

Ahh there we go.

[KWSN - DSM]

I think it was the mast of daddy's yacht

 

So that show what I don't know. Desert with boats.  

[loki]

I think it was the mast of daddy's yacht

Is that what the kids call it these days?…

[JimmyClark]

Just seen the session. Loved the unpredictability, but ruined by stewards decisions again it seems. The deleting and reinstating of times was a joke - it's like VAR in football. Put natural limits there (gravel) and if a driver happens to go wide and not lose time then that's their luck. It's just pathetic seeing laps on the limit being deleted for millimetres of wideness when the track allows it.

I didn't see Hulk's infraction, but don't drivers normally overtake at pit exit without penalty? Way to ruin a good news story.

I really don't like this circuit, or the overregulation of modern f1.

[gillesfan76]

The lap time in this generation of cars now is not going to come from pure car development i.e addition of downforce or aero efficiency, but rather setup development. These cars have an extremely narrow setup window so performance on a race weekend is going to come from having the data, tools and experience to predict what the grip levels are going to be and set the car up in its sweet spot. Car development could play a crucial role if they can find ways to widen the car’s performance window, but IMO it’s the performance window that’s going to be more important over pure performance, by a combinationof widening the car’s performance window and knowing how to set the car up.

[RPM40]

Just seen the session. Loved the unpredictability, but ruined by stewards decisions again it seems. The deleting and reinstating of times was a joke - it's like VAR in football. Put natural limits there (gravel) and if a driver happens to go wide and not lose time then that's their luck. It's just pathetic seeing laps on the limit being deleted for millimetres of wideness when the track allows it.

I didn't see Hulk's infraction, but don't drivers normally overtake at pit exit without penalty? Way to ruin a good news story.

I really don't like this circuit, or the overregulation of modern f1.

 

Agreed. They really need to put actual limits on the track if they're going to enforce this. Its so nonsensical to have to aggressively monitor and delete laps every session.

[RPM40]

The lap time in this generation of cars now is not going to come from pure car development i.e addition of downforce or aero efficiency, but rather setup development. These cars have an extremely narrow setup window so performance on a race weekend is going to come from having the data, tools and experience to predict what the grip levels are going to be and set the car up in its sweet spot. Car development could play a crucial role if they can find ways to widen the car’s performance window, but IMO it’s the performance window that’s going to be more important over pure performance, by a combinationof widening the car’s performance window and knowing how to set the car up.

 

That is a very peculiar aspect of these cars that wasn't that common in older generations. You are having huge performance swings from race weekend to race weekend.

 

Any of the top 4 teams can be fastest on a given weekend, depending on how the setup goes.

 

I still think on average, McLaren have had the fastest car overall, it seems to be 'on form' most of the time compared to say Mercedes that can either be dominant or p7/8 depending on the race.

 

Ferrari and Red Bull seem roughly the next best following.

[Laster]

I didn't see Hulk's infraction, but don't drivers normally overtake at pit exit without penalty? Way to ruin a good news story.

They are usually allowed to overtake in the pitlane, but they did specify in the events notes that due to the unusual nature of this pitlane drivers will not be allowed to overtake here, Hulk did unfortunately mess up.

[SophieB]

We are on the formation lap for the F2 championship decider, btw

[JimmyClark]

They are usually allowed to overtake in the pitlane, but they did specify in the events notes that due to the unusual nature of this pitlane drivers will not be allowed to overtake here, Hulk did unfortunately mess up.

Ah ok thanks.

[SamH123]

The grid: https://www.fia.com/...arting Grid.pdf

 

Hulk is P7.

 

how do you find that document when it's not listed here?: https://www.fia.com/...ing-information

[Clatter]

how do you find that document when it's not listed here?: https://www.fia.com/...ing-information

It's in the official documents.

https://www.fia.com/...arting Grid.pdf

[Frood]

how do you find that document when it's not listed here?: https://www.fia.com/...ing-information

https://www.fia.com/...eason-2024-2043

[Thursday]

Danica on Sky. I thought she only did the north American races, not that I'm complaining.

She looks like she has been hitting the gym pretty hard. I should probably do some of that myself instead of eating biscuits.