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I believe the problem relates to individual browser safe settings. Some browser software will know from the date that there is a genuine risk of seeing the Honker II in this thread today and has disabled all image viewing capabilities as a temporary precaution. Hopefully everything should be fine again tomorrow.

I was prepared to figure this was an "Only the Shadow knows" situation, but this seems more plausible.

[PayasYouRace]

For lovers of beautiful but slow cars.

 

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Yeah not seeing anything anymore either.

 

(Chrome Version 133.0.6943.127, private browsing, win11)

[Sterzo]

Yeah not seeing anything anymore either.

 

(Chrome Version 133.0.6943.127, private browsing, win11)

 

Worth posting in the Website thread, so the info is in one place. So, that's Chrome, Edge and Firefox all affected (for some).
 

[ensign14]

A Shadow of a very different stamp today...

 

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[eibyyz]

 

Looks like a lot of bondo work on that right-front corner...

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George Follmer, Porsche 917/10, Can-Am, 1973.

 

 

[Ivanhoe]

Bruce McLaren in the #16 Cooper battles with Stirling Moss in the BRM at the 1959 British Grand Prix, held at Aintree.

[Bleu]

 

Nico Rosberg's fourth and last season started with promise but team wasn't able to capitalise it. While Brawn GP topped the headlines, Williams was one of three having double diffusor from the beginning. Bad tactical choice in Melbourne with softer tyre dropped him down, then in Sepang he led early but got only half a point in the end. Rosberg topped several free practice sessions but failed to score a podium. Williams was 7th in WCC that year, with all of their points coming from Rosberg.

[Nemo1965]

 

How about a race that perhaps should have been black-flagged? 12 hours of Sebring, 1965. (Funny that my first posted picture is from my birth year). 

 

Jim Hall won in a Chaparral 2A-Chevrolet (Firestone), with Hap Sharp, Ken Miles in the Ford GT40 was second. A shame they did not use a scene like this in the Ferrari vs Ford-movie (If I remember correctly). No viewers would have been believed this scene! ('Typical Hollywood-over the top.') The number-16 car pictured is Lew Spencer in the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe, he finished in 21st place. I don't know if this was the car where Carol Shelby drilled holes in to get the flooding water out of the car, or if it was the Ford.

Edited by Nemo1965, 28 February 2025 - 07:14.

[DeKnyff]

 

 

In the immediate years after WWI, the rules were the same for the US and Europe, which made it possible for European cars to race at Indy and vice-versa. Here we see the Duesenberg 183 Grand Prix of Joe Boyer at what I believe is the 1921 French GP (although the apparently banked road makes me wonder...) Although Boyer couldn't finish the race due to an engine failure, the sister car of Jimmy Murphy won the GP.

 

It was the first road race win of a straight eight engine and, at least according to Wikipedia, the last win in Europe of an American car at a major race until Le Mans in 1966. Although I imagine they forgot the two editions of the Race of Two Worlds, I think this is correct, at least if we consider only major international races and only outright wins, not class wins.

 

Image from Supercars.net

[Sabre1977]

 

 

#16 Fernand Tavano/Bob Grossman - Ferrari 250 GT California 3.0L V12 - 1959 Le Mans 24h (5th)

 

 

 

From : https://copleymotorc...ne-s-n-1451-gt/

Edited by Sabre1977, 28 February 2025 - 08:24.

[Anja]

 

Malcolm Wilson and Ian Grindrod trying not to get stuck in the snow at the 1988 Swedish Rally. They would eventually finish 8th. Wilson was a decent driver, with 2 WRC podiums to his name (despite never competing in the series full-time) and the British Rally Championship title in 1994. But he would be even more successful as a team boss once his M-Sport was chosen by Ford to operate their rallying activities from 1997 onwards, still going on today. So far Wilson's team won 3 manufacturers' titles and 2 drivers' ones. 

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#16 - Jean Alesi - 34º Grande Prémio de Macau 1987 - Dallara 387-Alfa Romeo

 

 

After securing the 1987 French Formula Three Championship, Jean Alesi, alongside Oreca, entered that year's Grande Prémio de Macau with a Dallara powered by Alfa Romeo (here’s your daily Alfa post). Unfortunately, the #16 car failed to finish the race. The victory went to Martin Donnelly.

Edited by JRodrigues, 28 February 2025 - 09:00.

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[Desdirodeabike]

Worth posting in the Website thread, so the info is in one place. So, that's Chrome, Edge and Firefox all affected (for some).
 

Yea, tried all three. No pics showing.

 

Im probably dense, but which one is the Website thread?

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Yea, tried all three. No pics showing.

 

Im probably dense, but which one is the Website thread?

 

Here

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Jack Brabham leads the field in the number 16 Cooper at the French Grand Prix in 1960. Phil Hill's Ferrari challenge subsided before 20 laps were completed, Brabham would lead comfortably for the rest of the distance.

Edited by B Squared, 28 February 2025 - 11:47.

[Sterzo]

I wonder if it's day 16. If so....

 

Tom Pryce shared with his contemporary Ronnie Peterson both an unpretentious personality and a spectacular driving style. While I hadn’t been a driver’s “fan” since the age of twelve, I nevertheless take more interest in those whose promising talents I’ve witnessed in junior formulae, including both of those gentlemen.

 

Pryce won a single F1 race, the 1975 Race of Champions at Brands Hatch. Do I really need to say this? Oh well, I suppose I must: I woz there. There was a light snow shower before the race; parts of me not mentionable on a polite forum have just about thawed out by now.

 

The field was padded out with Formula 5000 cars. Now that was an excellent formula, providing cars competitive with F1 speeds (an F5000 Chevron had won the same race two years earlier), but the way they lurched into the bends with their tall and heavy engines trying to fall over looked most ungainly.

 

The picture shows Pryce in the F1 Shadow, demonstrating his tail-out style at Bottom Bend. Not ungainly at all.

 

 

Edited by Sterzo, 28 February 2025 - 11:41.

[OvDrone]

Harri Rovanpera's ( father of Kalle ) sole WRC Rally win came during the 2001 season at Rally Sweden. That year he had his best ever WRC season, finishing 5th overall with that 1 win and 2x 2nds, 2x 3rds driving the #16 Peugeot Total 206 WRC.

[Bleu]

Harri Rovanpera's ( father of Kalle ) sole WRC Rally win came during the 2001 season at Rally Sweden. That year he had his best ever WRC season, finishing 5th overall with that 1 win and 2x 2nds, 2x 3rds driving the #16 Peugeot Total 206 WRC.
 

 

His co-driver Risto Pietiläinen was also co-driver when Kalle started his career in Latvia. In Latvia driver's licence was not needed to participate rallies as far as co-driver had one (and co-driver drove the car between special stages).

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Mirror, mirror, mon amour...

[dutra]

Edited by dutra, 01 March 2025 - 01:34.

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1969.

 

 

[Ivanhoe]

Roger Penske fighting his Ferrari 250 GTO and avoiding contact with the Jaguar E-type of Jack Sears at the 1963 Tourist Trophy at Goodwood.

[Bleu]

 

Paul Tracy is a rare driver having raced IndyCar before the split and after the re-unification. Here is he driving in Edmonton in 2010.

Edited by Bleu, 01 March 2025 - 07:59.

[mikeC]

Roger Penske fighting his Ferrari 250 GTO and avoiding contact with the Jaguar E-type of Jack Sears at the 1963 Tourist Trophy at Goodwood.

Looking at the shape of that front wing, that's not the first time they've got close!

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[Anja]

 

Derek Bell started in a handful of rallies of varying level within the UK, chief among them two editions of the RAC Rally. This photo comes from 1988 when unlike the previous year he reached the finish line - in 29th place. 

Edited by Anja, 01 March 2025 - 09:12.

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[DeKnyff]

 

Nothing more appropiate for a t-minus thread than a t-minus sponsored car. Here we see Toranosuke "Tora" Takagi, driving an Arrows A20 at the 1999 Monaco GP. He couldn't finish the race.

 

Malik Abo Ibrahim, a Nigerian prince, approached Tom Walkinshaw for the 1999 season and proposed him to sponsor and take a share in the team, with several banks financing the deal thanks to his connections. Ibrahim's idea was to promote a new brand, t-minus, which didn't have any product but he hoped that the notoriety the name would achieve thanks to F1 would allow him to sell a whole range of clothing. This is, first build the brand, then launch the products. Which can be great as a discussion topic at a Marketing School, but doesn't work in real life. Thing is, Ibrahim disappeared mid-season without having paid anything and the t-minus logos were deleted from the car. Not too different from the Rich Energy story of twenty years later. Apparently, he later tried the same move with a NASCAR team and finished in jail, but I'd like to have more precise details about that. But whatever you think of him, Ibrahim must be a highly skilled oil-snake salesman, since in 2020 he married the daughter of a Nigerian billionaire (a real one this time).

 

Image from Motorsport Images

[Nemo1965]

 

Alain Prost climbs from his Renault at the infamous* Monaco Grand Prix of 1982. We all know, the race of which James Hunt said on live-tv: 'Nobody seems to WANT to win this race.' In the background later winner Riccardo Patrese arrives in his Brabham. He recovered of a spin, which happened on the oil of Derek Daly's Williams who was driving the last laps minus rear-wing and a gearbox that dragged over the ground. Patrese only found out in 2007 by virtue of Christopher Hiltons book about the 1982 season why he braked 20 meters earlier at the Grand Hotel hairpin and still spun. ('So that was you, Derek!')

 

(*'In-famous is when you're MORE than famous.  Not just famous, IN-famous.')

Edited by Nemo1965, 01 March 2025 - 14:01.

[Pieter]

 

How about a race that perhaps should have been black-flagged? 12 hours of Sebring, 1965. (Funny that my first posted picture is from my birth year). 

 

Jim Hall won in a Chaparral 2A-Chevrolet (Firestone), with Hap Sharp, Ken Miles in the Ford GT40 was second. A shame they did not use a scene like this in the Ferrari vs Ford-movie (If I remember correctly). No viewers would have been believed this scene! ('Typical Hollywood-over the top.') The number-16 car pictured is Lew Spencer in the Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe, he finished in 21st place. I don't know if this was the car where Carol Shelby drilled holes in to get the flooding water out of the car, or if it was the Ford.

 

 

Didn't known this fact about the rain, but I wasn't around at the time.

 

Found this report on dailymotion:

https://www.dailymot...m/video/x915ayi

The rain sets in around 17 minutes.

 

Sorry, a bit of topic.

[Nemo1965]

Didn't known this fact about the rain, but I wasn't around at the time.

 

Found this report on dailymotion:

https://www.dailymot...m/video/x915ayi

The rain sets in around 17 minutes.

 

Sorry, a bit of topic.

 

Not all! 

 

EDIT: And what an excellent introduction of the different classes by the near-sighted reporter. And nice interviews with Dan Gurney, amongst others. 

Edited by Nemo1965, 01 March 2025 - 14:06.

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The start of the 1972 South African Grand Prix with number 15 Chris Amon's Matra battling for the top six positions at the start

[Sterzo]

The Renault 3.5 World Series was a cheap alternative to GP2 and well-supported. UK Renault dealerships gave free tickets for the 2007 Donington round to customers, one of whom generously passed his on to me. Here is rookie Bertrand Baguette, who rotated at The Old Hairpin (which isn’t a hairpin) on lap 22, and was out.

 

 

I woz there but couldn’t be sure whether Baguette made a crumby mistake or another driver failed to use his loaf and nudged him. Bertrand ran two more years in the formula. Far from becoming stale, he was on a roll and became 2009 champion. Later in his career, in 2011, Baguette led the Indy 500.

 

As I queued for the exit in my road car, a father and son walked past. The boy was identifying Renaults (of which there were many) and asked his dad if mine was one. ‘Oh no,’ he said, ‘that’s an Alfa Romeo.’ As this thread needs more Alfa pictures, here is the car (long deceased) in which I woz sitting.

 

 

[ensign14]

The last decent shot from a legendary name...

 

[chdphd]

José María "Pechito" López in his GP2 DAMS at Silverstone, 2005. He qualified 7th, finishing the feature race in 9th. He didn't start Sunday's sprint race.
 
He took one victory in 2005 - the Spanish sprint race. He finished the season 9th in the championship.
 
He was super successful in the World Touring Car Championship, winning three consecutive titles for Citroën, the first coming in 2014.
 
You may remember him being named as a driver for the US F1 team that never happened.
 


Photo by me.

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Jim Thurman shares this photo:

 

Merv Sartori turning a practice lap in his super modified on the 1/4 mile paved oval at Ukiah Speedway, Ukiah, California on June 29, 1973. The upright style super modifieds were extremely popular in Central and Northern in the 1960s and 1970s, racing on both paved and dirt ovals, though this is a classic example of a pavement modified.

 

 

Jim advises that this was "taken by a kid that had never used his dad's unusual camera for something moving," but he got some pointers on panning moments before this shot.

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1969.

 

 

[Ivanhoe]

John Cooper drives one of his own creations - a Cooper T20 - at a practise session of the Daily Express International Trophy in 1952, held at Silverstone.

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1969.

 

 

The last running start Le Mans, which was abandoned after John Woolfe (No. 10) crashed with fatal consequences on the opening lap.

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[Bleu]

 

2011 was Adrian Sutil's best season in F1. While he had better single race results in three other seasons, 9th in drivers' standings behind Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari and Mercedes pairings was the highest position he achieved.

[Anja]

 

Mika Häkkinen making his rallying debut at the 2003 Arctic Rally. He finished in 29th place and came back to this event a few more times, with his best result being 7th in 2004. 

[Sabre1977]

 

#14 Mark Webber - Red Bull RB5 Renault RS27 - Red Bull Racing - Nürburgring - 2009 German GP (Winner)

 

Edited by Sabre1977, 02 March 2025 - 09:13.

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The P. Hill/Gendebien Ferrari retired from the lead, with about five hours remaining, at Le Mans in 1959.

[DeKnyff]

 

The BMW-Alpina 2800 CS of Helmut Kelleners and Gunther Huber, winners of the 24 Hours of Spa in 1970. The early days of the BMW access to power in touring cars.

 

Launched commercially in 1968, the E9 coupés started being prepared for touring racing along 1969 by specialists like Alpina or Schnitzer. In 1970, they came in full force, winning Spa and Salzburg. The following year marked the debut of the BMW arch-rivals, the works Ford Capris, which prompted BMW to found its own works racing team and later to poach Ford's manager, Jochen Neerpasch. The Ford vs. BMW rivalry would last for the five years to come and it would suppose one of the highest points ever in touring car racing.

 

Image from WheelsAge.org