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#5601 Autodromo

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 22:46

I find it funny how early in the thread there was tons of glee about Leclerc being found out (after he was over years already pointlessly questioned with myths) just because he didnt looked good in Shanghai in quali and the sprint (which obviously if it had/would continue against an aged out driver wouldn't have been good, but it was one race), and now that it seemingly turned a bit everyone apparently knew all along.

Way way too premature, though Hamilton really needs to find something over his high speed corner performance, it's probably 95 % where his deficit actually lies.

Again, that makes no sense given his victories at Silverstone and Spa last year, both tracks that are full of high-speed corners.  Or do you mean this year specifically?



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#5602 KPower

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 22:49

Again, that makes no sense given his victories at Silverstone and Spa last year, both tracks that are full of high-speed corners.  Or do you mean this year specifically?

 

It was the same last year and no different this year. He would most often lose time to RUS in high speed.


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#5603 vlado

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 22:49

And Charles was very, very good in dirty air today. I don't know if that is the treat of the car or only capabilities from Charles but very good never the less.

 

It has to be a combination of the two but I think he deals with that better than anyone else as far as I can tell. 

 

I noticed it last year in Baku when he fell asleep and let PIA pass him... he drove 40+ laps glued to that mini DRS , it was incredible to see 



#5604 TheAviator

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 22:52

It was the same last year and no different this year. He would most often lose time to RUS in high speed.

Was he ever this far of from Russell as he is from Charles? I remember him being couple tenths down in quali sometimes, but mostly therebouts in race, but in last 2 races he is is miles of Charles.

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 22:52

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"You have to wait for the compound to degrade and cool down a bit. Only on lap 16 was he warned by the garage that the tyre had reached its maximum peak temperature and was now slowly lowering. With the yellow it was immediately clear that Leclerc had less pace than Russell and the garage warned him that in the fast section the data reported how the rear was going into overheating."


"Charles was therefore asking a bit too much from his F1 , keeping minimum speeds in the middle of the curve too high. Hamilton was also told to control the “apex-speed”, therefore the speed at the apex. The aim was to control step by step the thermal management of the tyres along the stint, in order to extract the maximum in every circumstance, also extending the life of the yellow tyre itself."


"An important fact was confirmed by Riccardo Adami himself, that is, that the degradation on the Medium tyre was proving to be greater than expected . Russell, however, was not having an easy life. Compared to Leclerc, he had a little more, but compared to Verstappen and Piastri, he had to do more management at high speeds. Furthermore, George himself immediately opened up on the radio, saying that he did not feel the yellow tyre well."


What a pathetic way to do a racing with instructions for lowering maximum apex speeds during the F1 race. A pinnacle of motorsport. I thought the aim would be and should be to be as fast as possible at any given moment. This is wrong on so many levels.


I got criticised during Bahrain qualifying for saying it’s a tyre lottery but when you hear these comments it’s a disgrace, how on earth can the fastest racing series on the planet have tyres that require such nursing instead of the fastest driver/car combination being able to utilise their speed and may the best combo win.

It won’t ever change because the FIA and Liberty couldn’t care less, if only the teams had some guts to call out the rubbish product even if it brings the sport into disrepute.

#5606 Marklar

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 22:52

Again, that makes no sense given his victories at Silverstone and Spa last year, both tracks that are full of high-speed corners.  Or do you mean this year specifically?

it was lowkey already showing last year, but not as much and consistently as you correctly point out. This year it's extreme and very obvious.
 

Was he ever this far of from Russell as he is from Charles? I remember him being couple tenths down in quali sometimes, but mostly therebouts in race, but in last 2 races he is is miles of Charles.

he was never this much away in the races, usually in fact quicker imo, but Russell is clearly weaker in the races than Leclerc anyway (I mean look how competitive Antonelli already looks)

in qualifying after the summer break last year it was pretty often very clear. even if there have been even then many qualis where he looked quick and then just blew his Q3, I mean he does this this year too, but there were plenty qualis where he was genuinely lost.


Edited by Marklar, 20 April 2025 - 22:57.


#5607 vlado

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 22:53

What must Carlos Sainz be thinking?

 

No one cares...

 

maybe ask in the Williams thread 



#5608 Raest

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 22:54

:rotfl:

Oh you're a cute one...



#5609 Hezekiah

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 22:55

Charles is now the fastest on 1 lap, but also the best on tire saving....   When / if this kid gets a good car he's going to be unstoppable.. 

He's been the fastest over one lap for years.



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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:10

I got criticised during Bahrain qualifying for saying it’s a tyre lottery but when you hear these comments it’s a disgrace, how on earth can the fastest racing series on the planet have tyres that require such nursing instead of the fastest driver/car combination being able to utilise their speed and may the best combo win.

It won’t ever change because the FIA and Liberty couldn’t care less, if only the teams had some guts to call out the rubbish product even if it brings the sport into disrepute.

Exactly!



#5611 Astandahl

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:27

Just wanted to say one thing...

 

The more time goes on and the more i look at Alonso and Hamilton i realize that was Schumacher did in his comeback was actually phenomenal.

 

Unfortunately the weakest part of his driving (race craft) got only worse through the years and that cost him a lot of races. His speed in race trim was already great in 2011 and in 2012 he became competitive in qualifying as well, against one of the fastest driver in F1.

 

I enjoyed his moments of brilliance, but i should have enjoyed them more.



#5612 Ultravox

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:37

Just wanted to say one thing...

 

The more time goes on and the more i look at Alonso and Hamilton i realize that was Schumacher did in his comeback was actually phenomenal.

 

Unfortunately the weakest part of his driving (race craft) got only worse through the years and that cost him a lot of races. His speed in race trim was already great in 2011 and in 2012 he became competitive in qualifying as well, against one of the fastest driver in F1.

 

I enjoyed his moments of brilliance, but i should have enjoyed them more.

 

Alonso is performing strongly and crushing his team mate, why are you comparing him to Hamilton atm?



#5613 Bliman

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:41

Look at his comments here. I have a feeling he doesn't know it anymore and has sort of given up, to be honest. I think he is waiting for the new regulations and if it then doesn't work out he will surely quit. He sounds so down and it looks like all the hunger is gone. I don't blame him. It must be super hard going from unfairly losing 2021 then thinking you could get your revenge in 2022 and then Mercedes making bad cars (relatively) and slowly realizing these gen cars aren't for you. I honestly think he has put tons of effort getting things right but it seems he can't find the key and is lost now.



#5614 Bliman

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:42

Alonso is performing strongly and crushing his team mate, why are you comparing him to Hamilton atm?

Stroll says hi.



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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:43

He's been the fastest over one lap for years.

 

He's actually being struggling in Q for the best part of a year now.  



#5616 Marklar

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:43

Alonso is performing strongly and crushing his team mate, why are you comparing him to Hamilton atm?

His team mate is Stroll. And being usually a tiny bit quicker than Stroll (although the last three races Stroll has been exceptionally bad) is not a good performance. And it's a trend that other than the last three races has hold for the last 12 months.

It's solid enough for a 43 year old and he is doing better than Vettel did in what should have been still a decent age, but when you reasonably adjust for the quality of team mates his performance is no better than Hamiltons, even in his current form.

He is lucky (or smart, whatever way you wish to spin it) that in advanced age he faced pretty much the weakest team mate he could have gotten, and many certainly fall for it.



#5617 beachdrifter

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:44

Funny how nobody called it premature when HAM was crowned WDC2025 during pre-season

Looking for the clown emoji, couldn't find it...



#5618 KPower

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:50

What must Carlos Sainz be thinking?

 

My time at Ferrari next to Leclerc looks better by the weekend.  :lol:

 

There are some on this forum that convinced themselves staying a tenth off Leclerc didn't qualify as good enough. It's funny now.  :stoned:

 

But enough litigating the past, I'm curious to see how HAM and Vasseur get him on the right track.


Edited by KPower, 20 April 2025 - 23:55.


#5619 beachdrifter

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:51

I suspect he will see out the season. There's no way he wins a title with Charles as his team mate, 5 years too late for him.

People saying Lewis will wait to see what 2026 brings...but it's not only up to him. If things don't pick up, you have to wonder if Ferrari would keep him for 2026 anyway, he's hardly even an effective wing man at the moment.

Huh? He has at least a 2-year contract, right? So no, there's no "wondering" whether Ferrari would keep him for 2026.



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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:59

My time at Ferrari next to Leclerc looks better by the weekend. :lol:

There are some on this forum that convinced themselves staying a tenth off Leclerc didn't qualify as good enough. It's funny now. :stoned:

But enough litigating the past, I'm curious to see how HAM and Vasseur get him on the right track.


Does it, though?

It seems worth reiterating that after Sainz' first 4 races at Ferrari, Charles had TWICE the amount of points that Carlos had.

Relatively, Lewis is doing much better than that.

#5621 Bliman

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Posted 20 April 2025 - 23:59

Funny how nobody called it premature when HAM was crowned WDC2025 during pre-season

Huh what :rotfl:



#5622 beachdrifter

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 00:00

Incredible race by Charles, perfect. He’s figured something out with the car and he’s dancing it, really great to watch. Would love to see him in a title fight with Max.

Gained a full place, against a Merc struggling with tyre issues. :well:

 

Was nice to see, but not exactly encouraging going forward. It's 3rd or 4th fastest team on any given circuit, it seems. Quali issues will make finishing higher a tall order.


Edited by beachdrifter, 21 April 2025 - 00:01.


#5623 malibu

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 00:05

Hamilton is trying to adapt to a car that the team doesn't seem to be able to understand themselves. It's logical that he'll struggle to an extent. I find the discussion about Hamilton's demise premature at this point of the season.

 

 

what i find surprising is people thinking hamilton was going at 39, to beat Leclerc who is IMH the best driver after Max. People trust too much media communiqué

It was exaggerated. 


Edited by malibu, 21 April 2025 - 00:06.


#5624 beachdrifter

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 00:14

what i find surprising is people thinking hamilton was going at 39, to beat Leclerc who is IMH the best driver after Max. People trust too much media communiqué

It was exaggerated. 

I haven't read much before the season started, but everything I did read said Leclerc would surely be ahead on team experience alone. 100% saw Leclerc ahead.


Edited by beachdrifter, 21 April 2025 - 00:14.


#5625 beachdrifter

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 00:23

Lewis doesn't show the fighting spirit I'd like to see. It's almost like he's resigning himself to performing like this for the rest of the season. I don't get that attitude.

 

https://www.the-race...ill-be-painful/



#5626 KPower

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 00:45

Does it, though?

It seems worth reiterating that after Sainz' first 4 races at Ferrari, Charles had TWICE the amount of points that Carlos had.

Relatively, Lewis is doing much better than that.

 

Hamilton didn't replace 2021 Sainz. He replaced a 2024 Sainz. Fair or unfair, that's the benchmark.  :stoned:

 

Don't take me as some type of Lewis hater, he will absolutely get better as the season progresses. I've seen too much of his career to count him out. This is just cheeky banter.   ;)


Edited by KPower, 21 April 2025 - 00:46.


#5627 hollowstar

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 01:24

Hamilton didn't replace 2021 Sainz. He replaced a 2024 Sainz. Fair or unfair, that's the benchmark.  :stoned:

 

Don't take me as some type of Lewis hater, he will absolutely get better as the season progresses. I've seen too much of his career to count him out. This is just cheeky banter.   ;)

Got it. Let's compare with the current Sainz then.
 

Alex Albon currently has 5 times more points than Carlos Sainz.

 

Relatively, Lewis is doing much better.



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Posted 21 April 2025 - 01:53

Lewis doesn't show the fighting spirit I'd like to see. It's almost like he's resigning himself to performing like this for the rest of the season. I don't get that attitude.

 

https://www.the-race...ill-be-painful/

 

He had a similar comment about his qualifying pace at some point last season 



#5629 KPower

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 02:04

Got it. Let's compare with the current Sainz then.
 

Alex Albon currently has 5 times more points than Carlos Sainz.

 

Relatively, Lewis is doing much better.

 

Again, its banter and you seem to be very serious about this by making random comparisons and not the most relevant one(2024 Sainz vs 2025 Hamilton). If you want to get super worked up about it, stay stressed I guess.  :lol:


Edited by KPower, 21 April 2025 - 02:20.


#5630 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 02:04

Got it. Let's compare with the current Sainz then.

Alex Albon currently has 5 times more points than Carlos Sainz.

Relatively, Lewis is doing much better.

Lol.
Lewis is in his prime.

#5631 Ultravox

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 02:31

Stroll says hi.

 

And how does that prove he's underperforming like Hamilton? Logic says Hi.



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Posted 21 April 2025 - 02:35

His team mate is Stroll. And being usually a tiny bit quicker than Stroll (although the last three races Stroll has been exceptionally bad) is not a good performance. And it's a trend that other than the last three races has hold for the last 12 months.

It's solid enough for a 43 year old and he is doing better than Vettel did in what should have been still a decent age, but when you reasonably adjust for the quality of team mates his performance is no better than Hamiltons, even in his current form.

He is lucky (or smart, whatever way you wish to spin it) that in advanced age he faced pretty much the weakest team mate he could have gotten, and many certainly fall for it.

 

A mountain of speculation there. You keep assuming Stroll is terrible rather than giving Alonso the credit for making him look terrible like the credit Max gets. A far less experienced version of Stroll performed respectably vs Vettel a 4 time WC so the idea he is one of the worst drivers on the grid has no foundation to reality. Fact is Alonso is performing strongly his team mate, while Lewis is not so they are not comparable.  Anything else is wild speculation.



#5633 vlado

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 02:46

Claim that ALO and LEC have very similar driving styles? 

 

https://x.com/Formul...026582324203835

 

thoughts? 



#5634 chrcol

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 03:29

Lewis is getting found out. 

 

He's only ever been dominant in a perfect car with a teammate that's slower (often being beaten by those teammates). 

 

How long before Italy fully turn on Lewis... 

Most drivers decline after 38.  Plus he seems particularly affected by these new regulations.

 

I have accepted he has past his prime, but it seems to be really really bothering some people,  I am just happy he is driving for Ferrari.

 

He won his first WDC in the second best car of the year, matched WDC Alonso as a rookie, Russell was the first driver to be a match for Lewis after Alonso, the other drivers like Button and Rosberg had spells but were overall outclassed.  I think all his team mates were dominant prior to being his team mate.


Edited by chrcol, 21 April 2025 - 03:35.


#5635 Lowgrip

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 04:14

Look at his comments here. I have a feeling he doesn't know it anymore and has sort of given up, to be honest. I think he is waiting for the new regulations and if it then doesn't work out he will surely quit. He sounds so down and it looks like all the hunger is gone. I don't blame him. It must be super hard going from unfairly losing 2021 then thinking you could get your revenge in 2022 and then Mercedes making bad cars (relatively) and slowly realizing these gen cars aren't for you. I honestly think he has put tons of effort getting things right but it seems he can't find the key and is lost now.

 You don't blame him? he looks clueless and has prioritised the wrong thins IMHO.

From the outside, it looks like(as I said before) he shows up ONLY to drive the car and prefer to do different things not related to his racing career/performance in between race weekends(it worked in the past but now it is different).

He needed engineers from Mercedes on his side to help him big time in this new adventure, but expected his talent/driving alone to do the work.

His race yesterday was the worst from him I can remember as a fan and his little battle with Norris was really bad.  :cry:  He only lost time and disrupted his own rhythm when he must now focus on mastering the tyres, not wasting time to protect his image of a racer.


Edited by Lowgrip, 21 April 2025 - 04:14.


#5636 MikeTekRacing

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 04:19

He starts from unfairly losing 2021. A year Lewis was already past his prime

Excuses

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 04:28

His race yesterday was the worst from him I can remember as a fan and his little battle with Norris was really bad.  :cry:  He only lost time and disrupted his own rhythm when he must now focus on mastering the tyres, not wasting time to protect his image of a racer.

 

His battle with Norris was bad for Norris.

 

It may have lost Hamilton some time , but it didn't really impact his result. Nor did the battle interfere with him learning the car or th etyres, as he spent much of the race a few seconds behind another car and not being challenged from behind.

 

On the other hand, it probably cost Norris the podium, and secured the podium for Leclerc.



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Posted 21 April 2025 - 04:40

Look at his comments here. I have a feeling he doesn't know it anymore and has sort of given up, to be honest. I think he is waiting for the new regulations and if it then doesn't work out he will surely quit. He sounds so down and it looks like all the hunger is gone. I don't blame him. It must be super hard going from unfairly losing 2021 then thinking you could get your revenge in 2022 and then Mercedes making bad cars (relatively) and slowly realizing these gen cars aren't for you. I honestly think he has put tons of effort getting things right but it seems he can't find the key and is lost now.
https://www.youtube....h?v=2qX4T91LyQQ


The self pity from Hamilton is not the strong leadership that Ferrari opened their chequebook for though. All that PR and stuff about feeling the best he’s ever felt, and fired up for the challenge… where did all that go?!

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 05:55

Hopefully Lewis will regain his form when the European races start. He has been a slow starter for years and most of the tracks they have raced on so far have not suited Lewis. Hopefully he will put up a decent show at Silverstone. I still have faith in Lewis! :)

 

Anything can happen, as China showed. But the lack of race pace is worrying given it’s his strength. I can understand that in qualifying, trying to drive a car on the ragged edge of the limit when you can’t feel it when pushed to that edge, is going to be a tall order. But in the race, everything is dialled back a bit and his famed car manipulation still used to show. So losing so much race pace tells me that even below the limit, he just can’t make the car do what he wants. I expect the high speed tracks are going to expose him and the gaps and race pace should be a lot better in the low and medium speed tracks.



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Posted 21 April 2025 - 06:10

Claim that ALO and LEC have very similar driving styles? 

 

https://x.com/Formul...026582324203835

 

thoughts? 

 

Alonso has every driving style.



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Posted 21 April 2025 - 06:21

https://www.planetf1...025-conclusions

 

Look at the speed trace comparison near the end of that link. Lewis is treating the brake and throttle as an on/off switch, his speed trace is peaky. He carries more speed before turning in, then initial rotation comparison with Charles seems around the same, but then mid-corner minimum speed is terrible. Charles’ is settling his car, while Lewis hasn’t so the floor isn’t generating the grip. Because Charles is carrying a higher minimum speed, he can be gentler on the throttle on exit while Lewis has to be aggressive on it to try and make up the time.

 

The entire trace shows Charles is flowing the car through. He is coming off the brakes earlier and letting the car roll into the corner more gently with a nice blended and softer transition from braking to steering input to throttle pick up. Charles is carrying the perfect amount of speed to turn in at the correct point for the corner getting just the right compromise between braking, turn in point/speed, maximising his rotation mid-corner and maximising minimum speed. The exit takes care of itself then.

 

In contrast Lewis is coming in hard, aggressive on the brakes which unsettles the car. So his problems are starting with the hard braking, pretty clear to see. Because every input thereafter is trying to deal with the consequences of the hard braking which unsettles the car, so he turns in early to get the car settled more, but then his corner angle is too acute leaving him requiring a higher amount of rotation mid-corner where he loses too much speed, so he uses the throttle aggressively to pick up acceleration on exit compounding his tyre use.

 

But having gone down a different setup to try and maximise his flawed style for these cars at these fast flowing tracks, his car is not correctly balanced to even try and do what Charles is doing. Especially at fast flowing tracks like this, it’s clear Charles’s approach is the correct one. If lewis is even trying different setups in these kinds of tracks, he’s just preventing himself from adapting to how the car needs to be driven. He simply needs to copy Charles’ setup for these kinds of faster flowing tracks, and then work on driving it the same way. Lewis had plenty of opportunity for the previous 3 years at Mercedes to experiment with what George was doing in both setup and driving to get on top of what these cars need but by his own admission he was stubborn. At this point in time and at least seeing out this last year of regulation, he needs to limit his own direction only for the low speed tracks and just copy Charles fully for the faster tracks.



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Posted 21 April 2025 - 06:23

The self pity from Hamilton is not the strong leadership that Ferrari opened their chequebook for though. All that PR and stuff about feeling the best he’s ever felt, and fired up for the challenge… where did all that go?!

 

I don't know if that's what they thought they were getting, though. It was a different kind of big name signing given that it wasn't likely to extend beyond a handful of years no matter how well it went. It's hard to be positive when the result wasn't great, I know, but I feel the show of dejectedness stores up a problem for the future. It might be better to try to appear positive, as if there are still things to try, and try to create a sense of positivity about himself for the tifosi. He is not the reason they are not winning at the moment, and the tifosi can focus on Charles' efforts for the moment. If this move doesn't work out in terms of results, he can then look back on it as an interesting experience and a kind of encore. 



#5643 Muppetmad

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 06:29

Hamilton is clearly not in a great place with this car right now, but he'll bounce back. Leclerc has been in top form since Japan, which means there's lots of good data for Hamilton to work with going forwards.



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Posted 21 April 2025 - 06:32

The self pity from Hamilton is not the strong leadership that Ferrari opened their chequebook for though. All that PR and stuff about feeling the best he’s ever felt, and fired up for the challenge… where did all that go?!

 

Still we rise



#5645 AlexS

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 07:27

A good outcome of this race is that the car was still competitive at end of the race despite being light.



#5646 Sabre1977

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 07:29

Overreacting a bit about Hamilton, IMHO. 
 
He is struggling ATM, but I think he will be faster during the year. Probably Lec is the best qualy driver of the grid ,a and has a great racecraft, which makes comparision even harder for Lewis, but I think is too soon for Lewis to be fully adapted to the Ferrari.


#5647 prty

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 07:54

Alonso is performing strongly and crushing his team mate, why are you comparing him to Hamilton atm?


Exactly :lol:

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 08:00

Yesterday, when Max was on his back and the camera shifted to Max onboard, we could see how that car was all over the place. Understeeer, oversteer, unbalanced. Looked like a bad video game. Just watch the onboard. It was massive. 

 

Is it a car problem, or is it a driver problem? Maybe a bit of both and Lewis needs to adress that becasue being 0,6 off Charles is terrible and does not reflect the real Lewis even at 40. 

 

Also I would not coment my performance like he's been doing lately "i'm slow" " i'll just try to be in the top 10" "a need a brain transplant" etc. It looks like Norris. It's weak. "I'll work on the issues and solve them" simple as this. He's  a 7 time world champion.   



#5649 Ramon69

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 08:03

Leclerc is wasting his best year at this team. As much as a Ferrari fan I am, I'd love to see him win a title or more, even if that means changing teams! I'm really tired of Ferrari 's same story every season.  :down:

 

It's also mind baffling that they change a car concept that proved strong last year, especially since this is the last year with the current regulations.



#5650 Masterfail

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Posted 21 April 2025 - 08:06

His team mate is Stroll. And being usually a tiny bit quicker than Stroll (although the last three races Stroll has been exceptionally bad) is not a good performance. And it's a trend that other than the last three races has hold for the last 12 months.

It's solid enough for a 43 year old and he is doing better than Vettel did in what should have been still a decent age, but when you reasonably adjust for the quality of team mates his performance is no better than Hamiltons, even in his current form.

He is lucky (or smart, whatever way you wish to spin it) that in advanced age he faced pretty much the weakest team mate he could have gotten, and many certainly fall for it.

Alonso beating Stroll comfortable in pure pace: bad

Hamilton getting beaten by Leclerc comfortable in pure pace: bad

Conclusion: "his performance is no better than Hamiltons"

 

Hamilton was 0.2 ahead compared to Alonso this week (Q2). We know who was driving the much faster car.

 

It's always a bit hilarious to read a team thread where Hamilton is driving. If he doesn't perform, it's only a matter of time before Alonso is dragged down too. Stroll? I don't think Hamilton would do that well against Stroll both last year and this year.


Edited by Masterfail, 21 April 2025 - 08:20.