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#1 addled

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Posted 09 January 2025 - 15:37

I enjoy adding lots of detail to 1/12th scale F1 models, mostly using fairly basic tools and lots of hand-made components.  I’m hoping, soon, to tackle the Tyrell P34 (1976 version).   As you may know, despite a lot of interest in this unique car,  no one has produced anything authoritative to match, say, the contributions of Michael Oliver or Ian Wagstaff on Lotuses and there isn't, as far as I know, a cutaway drawing to match the clarity and detail of Tony Matthews' drawings.   I've probably more or less exhausted the material available to the public online, but I’m still looking for information (I.e details, in photos) of the components, wiring and plumbing immediately behind the driver and the ‘rear sub-chassis’ - everything from the rear bulkhead (including the bulkhead) backwards, especially the rear suspension and wing areas. If anyone has pictures that might help me figure out the details - mechanical, electrical and plumbing - I’d very much appreciate it.  Thank you, Mark



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#2 Charlieman

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Posted 10 January 2025 - 10:33

Have you tried the Sal Incandela book below? It contains some useful information about development changes.

 

The Anatomy And Development Of The Formula 1 Racing Car From 1975



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Posted 10 January 2025 - 13:16

Have you tried the Sal Incandela book below? It contains some useful information about development changes.

 

The Anatomy And Development Of The Formula 1 Racing Car From 1975

Thank you for this recommendation.  I don't know the book at all.  Before committing, as I won't be able to find it locally in a library, is it well illustrated (esp. regarding the P34) or mainly descriptive?



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Posted 10 January 2025 - 23:29

Worth a punt if you're in the UK ( not just for the P34)

 

Anatomy and Development of the Formula One Racing Car from 1975 by -: Very Good Hardcover (1990) | Bahamut Media



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Posted 11 January 2025 - 14:05

I think the book will suit your requirements well and a reading copy can easily be found for £15 or so. Inter library loan?



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Posted 11 January 2025 - 15:27

Tamiya created a 1:12 model of the 1976 version. I seem to remember that the box included drawings with much detail.

 

And then there is "Rennwagen - Funktion und Technik in der Formel 1", a book by Eddie Guba (Motorbuch Verlag Stuttgart, 1977) which covers all the cars from 1976. On p. 88 it shows the monocoque without engine from behind, on p. 92, also seen from behind, the right-hand suspension, engine and monocoque.



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Posted 11 January 2025 - 16:55

Thank you for the link.  I'm actually way down South, South Africa!  But, as I lived for a long time in the USA, can organise things better on that side of the Atlantic and I know there are used copies from 'local' sources.  The first(?) version of the Tamiya P34 kit instructions, which I recently found online (it has a photo of Ken Tyrrell on the cover, which reads 'authorised by....') includes a number of small photos with interesting details of the suspension, transaxle, etc.  These are absent in later versions of the instructions.  The print quality isn't good, but they are useful and I am hoping to find similar details from other sources. 



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Posted 11 January 2025 - 17:01

Thank you Charlieman and Rewind.  I'm in a small town (in South Africa as noted above) and had dismissed the idea of success via interlibrary loans from the local municipal library, but I should try before thinking about a copy from the USA and the logistics involved in getting it here.  It's beautiful town, with mountains and sea in very close proximity - quite a few Europeans have Southern Summer homes here - but everything in was much more accessible in the Washington, D.C. area!



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Posted 12 January 2025 - 09:48

Mark, I guess you'll have tried the Revs Institute website - Search for: Tyrrell p34  Also, I have sent you a PM.



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Posted 12 January 2025 - 13:55

69seven, many thanks.  There is probably much more to explore online as I'd not covered Rev.  Some nice details of cockpit and front suspension in particular but also useful stuff at the back.  Every photographer loved the front suspension!!  I couldn't find the PM but that probably speaks to my non-existent social media skills.  I've sent you my email address via the forums.