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[Greg Locock]

At the moment GM gives you the first 3 years of Supercruise for free (well you pay for it up front). After that they charge $25 per month. Only 20% of those eligible take that up.

 

This means 80% of the cars are carrying expensive stuff that can go wrong and performs no useful purpose.

[BRG]

How do I get Supercruise in the UK?  And WTF is it?

[jcbc3]

GM's drive by itself: https://www.chevrolet.com/super-cruise

 

prolly as useless as Tesla's.

[Magoo]

In shopping for a car to replace my Deplorean, I was surprised to see how even small base sedans are now loaded with electronic gadgets and safety nannies. 

 

I will never use most of that stuff and I wonder how many people ever do. As long as I can sync my phone, I'm good. 

[Magoo]

GM's drive by itself: https://www.chevrolet.com/super-cruise

 

prolly as useless as Tesla's.

 

As impressive as the Tesla Full Self Driving is, you're right. It doesn't serve any real purpose.

 

If say, a disabled person needs a car that will drive them point to point, it can't do that. 

 

I don't think the Cybertaxi is going to work with FSD without significant enhancements. 

[BRG]

Given that GM have pretty much given up on the UK market these days, I guess I am not part of the target market.  

 

The Waymo autonomous taxis in Phoenix and SF appear to work reasonably well but only in rather restricted urban environments.  

[Greg Locock]

Stellantis offers Level 3 https://www.autonews...autodrive-0220/

 

At various times various companies have announced that L3 is not of much interest to them because of the rather ill defined requirement about what else the driver can get up to and how quickly they have to resume control

 

ZF:It's a big leap from level 2 to level 3. From this stage onwards, the vehicle temporarily takes over the driving task from the driver. The human driver does not have to monitor the system constantly, and may pursue other activities within certain limits. When the systems reach their limits, the driver must be able to intervene at any time - after a warning period. Germany has already created the legal requirements for highly automated systems in 2017. Meanwhile, Mercedes-Benz is the first manufacturer that got the approval for a level 3 system in passenger cars.

 

More to the point the car company is responsible for any accidents while the L3 system is in control.

[Magoo]

Given that GM have pretty much given up on the UK market these days, I guess I am not part of the target market.  

 

The Waymo autonomous taxis in Phoenix and SF appear to work reasonably well but only in rather restricted urban environments.  

 

They're geofenced. Their entire operating theatre is premapped.